<div dir="ltr"><br>ZFS - How big do you have to get before GFS, LVM2 becomes prolematic? <br><br>Amway (Alticor) here in MI uses alot of AIX for DB2 and Oracle stuff - Corporations need a solution that is marketed and comes with a suit.<br>
<br><blockquote style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;" class="gmail_quote">ZFS is cool, but it really only matters for the 0.1%<br></blockquote><br>I agree with the point, and would add - It sometimes frustrates me when people say "Bladecenter ... bla bla bla, (enterprise technology)" - I don't need or want a proprietary blade center, I hate my proprietary 2u servers enough - 91% of the companies out there are SMB's - Most SMB's are 10 or less servers.<br>
<br>I look at some of the Sun as being this way about Solaris in some ways - they haven't incorporated enough of the new and useful technologies to make it worthwhile to people like me. Solaris is the Remedy of the *nix world to me.<br>
<br>Server Hatred Story #1:<br>Broken Optiplex Motherboard - attempting to restore raid array, Dells solution: Buy an identical Optiplex.<br>Server Hatred Story #2: A Single HP Proliant refuses to boot without bypassing a warning screen indicating a fan has failed. In fact no fan has failed or fallen below rpm range - the zone sensor has failed - to replace 1 diode, you must replace 8 fans, and a circuit board. <br>
After several calls to HP and a week going by, I have the new part, install it .. fixed.<br><br>Sometimes I just want to burn my server room down, gather a bunch of crappy tiny dell boxes have them scattered about and not care what happens to my hardware - I really think in the long run that would be more efficient/cost effective than the headaches of Vendor Lock-in.<br>
<br>The other thing I run into a lot, is people think they need to upgrade technologies, when they just aren't using the technology they have correctly or to its potential.<br><br>My Cad designers always complained of slow file access - when I started at company their switch architecture (of daisy chaining 1gb backplanes) left a total backplane of 2gigabits/sec across the entire 140 workstations. Nevermind the fact that purchasing a $700 all Gigabit switch with a 96gigabit backplane fixed the problem - they wanted to upgrade all of the $1200 100mbit Adtran switches. (sigh)<br>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 4:32 PM, Adam Tauno Williams <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:adamtaunowilliams@gmail.com">adamtaunowilliams@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class="Ih2E3d">On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 14:22 -0400, Casey DuBois wrote:<br>
> I had to share this link with the group.<br>
> Is Sun Solaris on its deathbed? Linux backers claim Solaris is<br>
> irrelevant; Sun of course disagrees<br>
> <a href="http://www.infoworld.com/article/08/09/24/39NF-linux-killing-solaris_1.html?source=NLC-DAILY&cgd=2008-09-24" target="_blank">http://www.infoworld.com/article/08/09/24/39NF-linux-killing-solaris_1.html?source=NLC-DAILY&cgd=2008-09-24</a><br>
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</div>That seems pretty much spot-on to me. The only advantage Sun trots out<br>
are the mentioned Dtrace and ZFS. When was the last time people got<br>
really excited about a filesystem? ZFS is cool, but it really only<br>
matters for the 0.1% of the market that has **HUGE** filesystems. For<br>
everyone else any modern filesystem is sufficient.<br>
<br>
This is pretty much a literal exchange:<br>
ZFS guy to me: you never have to think about inodes ever again.<br>
Me to ZFS guy: Uh, inodes? I haven't thought about them in years.<br>
<br>
I think the real argument against Solaris is: "Why bother? I can just<br>
use LINUX. No licensing hassle, better hardware support, larger support<br>
community."<br>
<br>
I've considered Sun dead for along time, along with HP-UX and AIX. But<br>
"death" in IT is a very long and protracted event.<br>
<br>
As for Dtrace, it or an equivalent, will be here shortly.<br>
<<a href="http://oracledoug.com/serendipity/index.php?/archives/1309-DTrace-and-Linux.html" target="_blank">http://oracledoug.com/serendipity/index.php?/archives/1309-DTrace-and-Linux.html</a>> among other links.<br>
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