1.&nbsp; Where would we get the used PCs? <br>Was thinking local companys might do it for good PR or places like Craigslist.<br>2. What kind of scale are we looking at 10 machines a month, 100 a month?<br>3.&nbsp; Where would we work out of?
<br>4.&nbsp; What would be the most cost effective method to allow these machines access to&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; the internet.<br>5.&nbsp; Where would we look to distribute them?&nbsp; <br><br><br><br><br><br><p><DEFANGED_div><DEFANGED_span class="gmail_quote">On 10/22/06, 
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<br><br>&nbsp;&nbsp; 1. Re: Automatix update (Michael Mol)<br>&nbsp;&nbsp; 2. Re: Automatix update (Bill Creswell)<br>&nbsp;&nbsp; 3. Re: Possibilty of creating a nonprofit orgination (Bill Creswell)<br>&nbsp;&nbsp; 4. Re: Possibilty of creating a nonprofit orgination (eah)
<br>&nbsp;&nbsp; 5. Re: Possibilty of creating a nonprofit orgination<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(Luke McReynolds)<br>&nbsp;&nbsp; 6. Re: Possibilty of creating a nonprofit orgination (eah)<br>&nbsp;&nbsp; 7. Re: Possibilty of creating a nonprofit orgination (Tim Schmidt)
<br>&nbsp;&nbsp; 8. Re: Possibilty of creating a nonprofit orgination (Bob Kline)<br><br><br>----------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br>Message: 1<br>Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 19:16:13 -0400<br>From: &quot;Michael Mol&quot; &lt;
<a href="mailto:mikemol@gmail.com">mikemol@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>Subject: Re: [GRLUG] Automatix update<br>To: <a href="mailto:grlug@grlug.org">grlug@grlug.org</a><br>Message-ID:<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;<a href="mailto:f5e00c450610201616w27aef090v9f05562992852560@mail.gmail.com">
f5e00c450610201616w27aef090v9f05562992852560@mail.gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=&quot;ISO-8859-1&quot;; format=flowed<br><br>On 10/20/06, Topher &lt;<a href="mailto:topher@wcsg.org">topher@wcsg.org
</a>&gt; wrote:<br>&gt; &gt; It uses dpkg and apt for package management, so it would be like<br>&gt; &gt; installing Firefox manually, and then installing the Firefox package.<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; As long as your manual installation put the binaries in /usr/local/*,
<br>&gt; &gt; there should be no worries.&nbsp;&nbsp;You can even choose which binaries to use<br>&gt; &gt; by modifitying your $PATH, or by writing out the full path to the opera<br>&gt; &gt; binary.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; This is stuff I installed with apt.&nbsp;&nbsp;I put the opera source in my sources
<br>&gt; file and just did<br>&gt; apt-get install opera<br><br>Ah.&nbsp;&nbsp;In that case, yeah, it'll cause issues.&nbsp;&nbsp;You can either not<br>bother with the Opera package in Automatix, or you can remove your<br>current package before installing the Opera package.&nbsp;&nbsp;Either way
<br>should be fine; your personal settings are of course stored in your<br>home directory.<br><br><br>--<br>:wq<br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 2<br>Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 07:41:31 -0400<br>From: &quot;Bill Creswell&quot; &lt;
<a href="mailto:billcreswell@gmail.com">billcreswell@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>Subject: Re: [GRLUG] Automatix update<br>To: <a href="mailto:grlug@grlug.org">grlug@grlug.org</a><br>Message-ID:<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;<a href="mailto:52b088230610210441x791b95a8g7dd5f0f86184e07b@mail.gmail.com">
52b088230610210441x791b95a8g7dd5f0f86184e07b@mail.gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=&quot;iso-8859-1&quot;<br><br>Warning for Ubuntu users<br>- Automatix2 is for &quot;Edgy&quot; Ubuntu 6.10, to be released October 26.
<br><a href="http://getautomatix.com/wiki/index.php?title=Automatix_Testing">http://getautomatix.com/wiki/index.php?title=Automatix_Testing</a><br><br>On 10/20/06, Michael Mol &lt;<a href="mailto:mikemol@gmail.com">mikemol@gmail.com
</a>&gt; wrote:<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Ubuntu users might want to upgrade to Automatix2...it's significantly<br>&gt; updated from the old Automatix.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; <a href="http://www.getautomatix.com/">http://www.getautomatix.com/
</a><br>&gt;<br>&gt; --<br>&gt; :wq<br>&gt; _______________________________________________<br>&gt; grlug mailing list<br>&gt; <a href="mailto:grlug@grlug.org">grlug@grlug.org</a><br>&gt; <a href="http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug">
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<br><br>Message: 3<br>Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 07:43:38 -0400<br>From: &quot;Bill Creswell&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:billcreswell@gmail.com">billcreswell@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>Subject: Re: [GRLUG] Possibilty of creating a nonprofit orgination
<br>To: <a href="mailto:grlug@grlug.org">grlug@grlug.org</a><br>Message-ID:<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;<a href="mailto:52b088230610210443p7728a256t2741deaf9c7c0230@mail.gmail.com">52b088230610210443p7728a256t2741deaf9c7c0230@mail.gmail.com
</a>&gt;<br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=&quot;iso-8859-1&quot;<br><br>If someone was clever enought to setup free juno dial-up accounts on<br>linux......<br>Kids could still use pc's for educational purposes, but there again, the
<br>cost is another $40 for a printer.<br><br>On 10/20/06, Bob Kline &lt;<a href="mailto:bob.kline@gmail.com">bob.kline@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Isn't the bigger cost Internet access?<br>&gt;<br>&gt; I bought a $50 junker at VC Tech Source.
<br>&gt; 1GHz processor.&nbsp;&nbsp;512MB of RAM.&nbsp;&nbsp;Plenty<br>&gt; good for surfing and e-mail.&nbsp;&nbsp;So the cost<br>&gt; of a machine is not too much of an issue.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; -Bob<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; On 10/20/06, Jared Upton &lt;
<a href="mailto:jared77@gmail.com">jared77@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>&gt; &gt; I was thinking of the possibilty of creating a non profit<br>&gt; organization&nbsp;&nbsp;to<br>&gt; &gt; collect and redistribute used PCs to the less forunate school childen,
<br>&gt; &gt; familys, etc.&nbsp;&nbsp;To avoid costs we could install Eubuntu on all the<br>&gt; machines.<br>&gt; &gt; This would also address the nasty spyware problems.&nbsp;&nbsp;I have been<br>&gt; conisdering<br>&gt; &gt; this awhile and then came across this article today on 
<a href="http://digg.com">digg.com</a><br>&gt; &gt; <a href="http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=280193">http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=280193</a><br>&gt; &gt; Any comments on the feasibilty of this would be greatly appreciated.&nbsp;&nbsp;I
<br>&gt; am<br>&gt; &gt; also new to the area so something similar may in place that I am not<br>&gt; aware<br>&gt; &gt; of.<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; _______________________________________________<br>&gt; &gt; grlug mailing list
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<br><br>Message: 4<br>Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 09:19:02 -0400<br>From: eah &lt;<a href="mailto:darth_linux@ameritech.net">darth_linux@ameritech.net</a>&gt;<br>Subject: Re: [GRLUG] Possibilty of creating a nonprofit orgination
<br>To: <a href="mailto:grlug@grlug.org">grlug@grlug.org</a><br>Message-ID: &lt;<a href="mailto:200610210919.03390.darth_linux@ameritech.net">200610210919.03390.darth_linux@ameritech.net</a>&gt;<br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=&quot;utf-8&quot;
<br><br>On Friday 20 October 2006 15:34, Jared Upton wrote:<br>&gt; I was thinking of the possibilty of creating a non profit organization&nbsp;&nbsp;to<br>&gt; collect and redistribute used PCs to the less forunate school childen,
<br>&gt; familys, etc.&nbsp;&nbsp;To avoid costs we could install Eubuntu on all the machines.<br>&gt; This would also address the nasty spyware problems.&nbsp;&nbsp;I have been<br>&gt; conisdering this awhile and then came across this article today on 
<a href="http://digg.com">digg.com</a><br>&gt; <a href="http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=280193">http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=280193</a><br>&gt; Any comments on the feasibilty of this would be greatly appreciated.&nbsp;&nbsp;I am
<br>&gt; also new to the area so something similar may in place that I am not aware<br>&gt; of.<br><br>GRLUG used to be a non-profit. We never sold anything, but we did have<br>non-profit status.<br><br>eah<br><br><br>------------------------------
<br><br>Message: 5<br>Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 10:30:52 -0400<br>From: &quot;Luke McReynolds&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:luke@davidlagrand.com">luke@davidlagrand.com</a>&gt;<br>Subject: Re: [GRLUG] Possibilty of creating a nonprofit orgination
<br>To: <a href="mailto:grlug@grlug.org">grlug@grlug.org</a><br>Message-ID:<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;<a href="mailto:34da35260610210730s5e943e90kbb251bb070021f58@mail.gmail.com">34da35260610210730s5e943e90kbb251bb070021f58@mail.gmail.com
</a>&gt;<br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=&quot;iso-8859-1&quot;<br><br>GRLUG used to be a non-profit. We never sold anything, but we did have<br>non-profit status.<br><br>Really? What happened?<br><br>On 10/21/06, eah &lt;
<a href="mailto:darth_linux@ameritech.net">darth_linux@ameritech.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br>&gt;<br>&gt; On Friday 20 October 2006 15:34, Jared Upton wrote:<br>&gt; &gt; I was thinking of the possibilty of creating a non profit
<br>&gt; organization&nbsp;&nbsp;to<br>&gt; &gt; collect and redistribute used PCs to the less forunate school childen,<br>&gt; &gt; familys, etc.&nbsp;&nbsp;To avoid costs we could install Eubuntu on all the<br>&gt; machines.<br>&gt; &gt; This would also address the nasty spyware problems.&nbsp;&nbsp;I have been
<br>&gt; &gt; conisdering this awhile and then came across this article today on<br>&gt; <a href="http://digg.com">digg.com</a><br>&gt; &gt; <a href="http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=280193">http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=280193
</a><br>&gt; &gt; Any comments on the feasibilty of this would be greatly appreciated.&nbsp;&nbsp;I<br>&gt; am<br>&gt; &gt; also new to the area so something similar may in place that I am not<br>&gt; aware<br>&gt; &gt; of.<br>&gt;
<br>&gt; GRLUG used to be a non-profit. We never sold anything, but we did have<br>&gt; non-profit status.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; eah<br>&gt; _______________________________________________<br>&gt; grlug mailing list<br>&gt; <a href="mailto:grlug@grlug.org">
grlug@grlug.org</a><br>&gt; <a href="http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug">http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug</a><br>&gt;<br><br><br><br>--<br>Luke McReynolds<br>Assistant Campaign Manager
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darth_linux@ameritech.net</a>&gt;<br>Subject: Re: [GRLUG] Possibilty of creating a nonprofit orgination<br>To: <a href="mailto:grlug@grlug.org">grlug@grlug.org</a><br>Message-ID: &lt;<a href="mailto:200610211950.40562.darth_linux@ameritech.net">
200610211950.40562.darth_linux@ameritech.net</a>&gt;<br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=&quot;utf-8&quot;<br><br>On Saturday 21 October 2006 10:30, Luke McReynolds wrote:<br>&gt; GRLUG used to be a non-profit. We never sold anything, but we did have
<br>&gt; non-profit status.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Really? What happened?<br>&gt;<br>we just didn't renew the paperwork one year. i suppose we could do it again...<br><br><br>eah<br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>
Message: 7<br>Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 09:16:41 -0400<br>From: &quot;Tim Schmidt&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:timschmidt@gmail.com">timschmidt@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>Subject: Re: [GRLUG] Possibilty of creating a nonprofit orgination
<br>To: <a href="mailto:grlug@grlug.org">grlug@grlug.org</a><br>Message-ID:<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;<a href="mailto:2c97fe9d0610220616v6863e3d2g92d065d87f95d313@mail.gmail.com">2c97fe9d0610220616v6863e3d2g92d065d87f95d313@mail.gmail.com
</a>&gt;<br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=&quot;ISO-8859-1&quot;; format=flowed<br><br>I in fact own <a href="http://geekcycle.org">geekcycle.org</a>, but haven't had enough time recently to<br>do anything with it.&nbsp;&nbsp;I'll certainly loan some web space / bandwidth,
<br>the domain, and whatever time I can muster...<br><br>--tim<br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 8<br>Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 14:08:26 -0400<br>From: &quot;Bob Kline&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:bob.kline@gmail.com">
bob.kline@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>Subject: Re: [GRLUG] Possibilty of creating a nonprofit orgination<br>To: <a href="mailto:grlug@grlug.org">grlug@grlug.org</a><br>Message-ID:<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;<a href="mailto:d181b7d70610221108h61b86660vcd427e06a957e92d@mail.gmail.com">
d181b7d70610221108h61b86660vcd427e06a957e92d@mail.gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=&quot;ISO-8859-1&quot;; format=flowed<br><br>I don't know anything about the nonprofit issue,<br>but nursing homes are another candidate for
<br>Internet access.&nbsp;&nbsp;e-mail is particularly beneficial<br>for those basically locked up,&nbsp;&nbsp;giving people some<br>contact with their families if they have any.&nbsp;&nbsp;Low<br>lever surfing is probably a helpful diversion too.<br>
<br>&nbsp;&nbsp; -Bob<br><br><br>On 10/20/06, Jared Upton &lt;<a href="mailto:jared77@gmail.com">jared77@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>&gt; I was thinking of the possibilty of creating a non profit organization&nbsp;&nbsp;to<br>&gt; collect and redistribute used PCs to the less forunate school childen,
<br>&gt; familys, etc.&nbsp;&nbsp;To avoid costs we could install Eubuntu on all the machines.<br>&gt; This would also address the nasty spyware problems.&nbsp;&nbsp;I have been conisdering<br>&gt; this awhile and then came across this article today on 
<a href="http://digg.com">digg.com</a><br>&gt; <a href="http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=280193">http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=280193</a><br>&gt; Any comments on the feasibilty of this would be greatly appreciated.&nbsp;&nbsp;I am
<br>&gt; also new to the area so something similar may in place that I am not aware<br>&gt; of.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; _______________________________________________<br>&gt; grlug mailing list<br>&gt; <a href="mailto:grlug@grlug.org">
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