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Agreed... I'm not advocating using root for everything, but I don't
want to prefix every root command with sudo.<br>
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Thats all.. well, maybe not..<br>
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I also don't want the first user created having sudo. If I install a
box for my daughter, and she's the only user, she's root. Also fixable.
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Its a design philosophy in doing the sudo thing that I don't like. I
like the separation of normal user and root user. They are blurring it
for a single user.<br>
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Adam bultman wrote:
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<pre wrap="">It comes down to people liking to traipse around as root.
When you use sudo, you need to do things on purpose - sudo this, sudo
that, and after a while, it's irritating. It's much easier to su - root,
and just run around and do what you want, but you lose the 'thinking
about what you're doing' factor.
I discourage fellow admins from running around as root, since people
*do* make mistakes, and that prompt for a password on the sudo command
has saved me multiple times. Similarly, I've been present when someone
running around as root does something horribly dumbassed, and I've got
to help clean up, if not do it all.
First thing I do on my ubuntu boxes is set a root password. That way, I
can clean up any filesystem damage if it drops to a shell when booting.
If I have a few things to do, I use sudo. If I have a few commands in a
string I need, I do 'sudo bash'. If I want to run around as root, I'll
just do 'sudo su - ' and become root, do my tasks, and then be done with
it. Time spent running around as root per month: Perhaps 3 minutes.
Time spent using sudo: Very large.
Adam
Tim Schmidt wrote:
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<pre wrap="">On 5/4/06, David Pembrook <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:david@pembrook.net"><david@pembrook.net></a> wrote:
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<pre wrap=""> I was playing around with distro's that day.. I remember it looked good and
I had to fix it. I hacked mine to operate as I expect it to. My only point
is:
No matter how you slice it, the root user is taken away by default and
replaced with sudo. I use sudo on other systems when I want to and su to
root when I want to.
Again every issue I have with it can be addressed, its Linux. Its personal
taste.
Dave
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<pre wrap="">I'm sorry Dave, I don't follow your logic... You have /root, you have
a way to escalate privileges, what are you missing? Exactly what can
you not do with sudo as efficiently or effectively as you can with su?
How are you doing things differently?
--tim
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