From kyle at virtualinterconnect.com Fri Jul 3 15:31:10 2015 From: kyle at virtualinterconnect.com (Kyle Maas) Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2015 15:31:10 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] Probably no Friday After Five/Six this week Message-ID: <5596E2FE.1040209@virtualinterconnect.com> Unless you want there to be one! Mike and I can't make it this week. If someone wants to host Friday After Five/Six/Whatever this week at a park, feel free to reply to this and let everyone know. There was some interest expressed on #grlug in showing up if someone plans on being there. Warm Regards, Kyle Maas From cjariebs at gmail.com Mon Jul 6 13:33:19 2015 From: cjariebs at gmail.com (Alex Riebs) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2015 13:33:19 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] Arch Linux In-Reply-To: <1435239074.2804.1.camel@whitemice.org> References: <20150625132300.GA3722@archibald> <1435239074.2804.1.camel@whitemice.org> Message-ID: I run Arch on my laptop and have been for the past 4 years or so. You don't HAVE to keep up with the rolling releases, and even so there isn't that much maintenance. Occasionally you'll have to merge a configuration file or something, and if you want the latest version of anything then you have to run the update. I don't see why that's a bad thing, and it is optional. After all, Debian can get away without updates for extended periods of time too :P To be fair though, sometimes an update might break your system, but it's considered best practice to check the Arch Linux news before running a -Syu, because they always let users know when a system-breaking update is coming or manual intervention is required. Either way Arch Linux has by far been my most satisfying Linux experience after trying Debian, Fedora, Ubuntu, Gentoo, Slackware, and LFS. Everything I want, nothing I don't. I'm running a rock-solid workhorse. :) On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 9:31 AM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > On Thu, 2015-06-25 at 09:23 -0400, John-Thomas Richards wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 06:11:37PM -0400, Benjamin Flanders wrote: > > On openSUSE PDFs print as expected. Bottom line: it > > just works. That's what I love about Linux. > > That was my proposed motto for openSUSE. In response to Ubuntu's silly > "LINUX for humans" I wanted openSUSE's to be "LINUX for humans who need > to get work done". > > Apparently that is too snarky, regardless if it is accurate or not. > > -- > Adam Tauno Williams GPG D95ED383 > Systems Administrator, Python Developer, LPI / NCLA > > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From godwin at grandrapids-lug.org Mon Jul 20 12:11:29 2015 From: godwin at grandrapids-lug.org (Godwin) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 12:11:29 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] Is the mailing list working again? In-Reply-To: <1540c80ab1768a0d3ce938404eb7cd19.squirrel@webmail.ajprogramming.com> References: <1540c80ab1768a0d3ce938404eb7cd19.squirrel@webmail.ajprogramming.com> Message-ID: Uhh, it is now. :-) Sorry, upgrades borked some things and I just got around to it. G- On Jul 20, 2015 12:08 PM, "Jeff Bosch" wrote: > > Test message to see if the mailing list is working. > > > > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Message-ID: Yeah, apparently I hadn't restarted Mailman. G- On Jul 20, 2015 12:12 PM, "Thomas Wodarek" wrote: > Got 5 email in 2 minutes. Cleaning out a buffer somewhere? > On Jul 20, 2015 12:09 PM, "Michael Mol" wrote: > >> Is there anybody...out there? >> >> _______________________________________________ >> grlug mailing list >> grlug at grlug.org >> http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug >> > > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From steve.scherbinski at gmail.com Mon Jul 20 12:14:25 2015 From: steve.scherbinski at gmail.com (Steven Scherbinski) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 12:14:25 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] Test In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Got it 3 minutes ago. On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 3:03 PM, Michael Mol wrote: > Is there anybody...out there? > > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paul.moreno at office4biz.com Tue Jul 21 10:50:50 2015 From: paul.moreno at office4biz.com (paul.moreno at office4biz.com) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 09:50:50 -0500 Subject: [GRLUG] Kalamazoo Linux Users Group Message-ID: <6b05bd7a602513fb97674d0551baf2ac@office4biz.com> The Kalamazoo Linux Users Group (KLUG) is starting to grow and would like to invite members of the Grand Rapids Linux Users Group to attend our meetings if they would like. We have a mix of newbies and lightly experienced Linux users and would like to have some experts who would be willing to make presentations and demonstrations to help us up our game in the Linux community. - Thank you, Paul Moreno 269-873-0748 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mikemol at gmail.com Tue Jul 21 14:42:37 2015 From: mikemol at gmail.com (Michael Mol) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 18:42:37 +0000 Subject: [GRLUG] Kalamazoo Linux Users Group In-Reply-To: <6b05bd7a602513fb97674d0551baf2ac@office4biz.com> References: <6b05bd7a602513fb97674d0551baf2ac@office4biz.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 10:51 AM wrote: > The Kalamazoo Linux Users Group (KLUG) is starting to grow and would > like to invite members of the Grand Rapids Linux Users Group to attend our > meetings if they would like. We have a mix of newbies and lightly > experienced Linux users and would like to have some experts who would be > willing to make presentations and demonstrations to help us up our game in > the Linux community. - Thank you, Paul Moreno 269-873-0748 > Hey Paul; you should definitely go to BarcampGR this year. ( http://barcampgr.org) Barcamp gets techie folk from around the state, so there are likely to be at least a few that are pretty close to you. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From awilliam at whitemice.org Fri Jul 24 08:22:19 2015 From: awilliam at whitemice.org (Adam Tauno Williams) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 08:22:19 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] Is the mailing list working again? In-Reply-To: <1540c80ab1768a0d3ce938404eb7cd19.squirrel@webmail.ajprogramming.com> References: <1540c80ab1768a0d3ce938404eb7cd19.squirrel@webmail.ajprogramming.com> Message-ID: <1437740539.2790.0.camel@whitemice.org> On Thu, 2015-07-16 at 12:55 -0400, Jeff Bosch wrote: > Test message to see if the mailing list is working. Yes. -- Adam Tauno Williams GPG D95ED383 Systems Administrator, Python Developer, LPI / NCLA From awilliam at whitemice.org Fri Jul 24 09:44:18 2015 From: awilliam at whitemice.org (Adam Tauno Williams) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 09:44:18 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] Ping In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1437745458.2790.4.camel@whitemice.org> On Fri, 2015-07-17 at 12:00 -0400, Godwin wrote: > Ignore pls ICMP Rejected. :) -- Adam Tauno Williams GPG D95ED383 Systems Administrator, Python Developer, LPI / NCLA From mikemol at gmail.com Fri Jul 24 11:20:53 2015 From: mikemol at gmail.com (Michael Mol) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 15:20:53 +0000 Subject: [GRLUG] Friday After Six will Huff. And it will Park. And stuff. Message-ID: So, the weekly social is in a different place this week, though it's still outside. And the time is again 6-8PM instead of 5-7PM. Going to try to keep that pattern as long as weather permits. We'll probably start hosting at VI again when it gets cold. Time: 6PM-8PM Fridays, every week unless cancelled Location: *Huff* Park: 2286 Ball Ave NE Grand Rapids, MI 49505 Commute: There's plenty of parking. If you're taking the bus, Google seems to recommend the 13, getting off at Knapp & Aberdeen, and walking about 600ft east. Food: Bring your own. Entry: It's a public park. Parking entrance is at the map point. Pedestrian entrance is anywhere there's a street. See the map. Power and Internet: Probably power. Internet? Dunno. Any questions, poke around on #grlug on FreeNode, or right here on this mailing list. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ptenhoopen at gmail.com Thu Jul 30 09:42:42 2015 From: ptenhoopen at gmail.com (Patrick TenHoopen) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 09:42:42 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] July WMLUG Meeting, Tonight @ 6 PM Message-ID: Greetings, The July WMLUG meeting will be held tonight. I will be giving a presentation on Nagios, PNP4Nagios, and NConf. Nagios is a popular and very capable host and service monitoring system with both open source and paid versions. It can be expanded with add-ons such as PNP4Nagios for graphing performance data and NConf to add a database-driven web-based configuration tool. We'll be meeting at New Horizons at 6 pm. The address is 630 Kenmoor Ave SE, Suite 201, Grand Rapids MI 49546. Snacks, pizza and pop will be provided. If you can, please let me know if you plan on attending so I can plan accordingly. If you're not sure until the last moment, no worries! You can just show up. Note: If you get there after 6:30 and the doors are locked, please call my cell at 616-295-5168 so we can let you in. Hope to see you there! Patrick Patrick TenHoopen President - West Michigan Linux Users Group http://www.wmlug.org -- END OF LINE. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Subjects of discussion have ranged from web programming and digital photography to computer vision and turkey basting. (No, there wasn't a talk on having a computer visually monitor your turkey, but if you've tried it, you're welcome to report on your experiences!) You see, the talks are not set beforehand, it's you, the attendees, who give BarCampGR direction and content. What's the format? Presentations are 25 minutes long, with five minutes in between. You're welcome to sit in on a presentation or hang around in the lounge and talk; it's all the same with us. If you run a presentation, we don't care how you run it - so long as you don't get us in trouble! Give a monologue, a Q&A or a round table; it's your topic, your presentation, your audience. If people didn't want to spend 25 minutes on your topic, they wouldn't be there. Don't know what to talk about? Certainly you have some relatively unique experiences. What do you do for a hobby? What's something you managed to fix that you're proud of? It doesn't matter if the height of your accomplishment is changing your car's oil or if you've war-driven half of the Grand Rapids area; if people are interested, they will show up at your talk. If they aren’t interested, they will probably attend one of the other talks during that time. But I'm not an expert! Sure you are! If you know the first thing about a subject, you know more than people who don't. And, yes, people who know more than you will probably attend your presentation. Interact with them; you both have something to learn from each other. Chances are, if you're both really interested in a subject, you'll find yourselves looking for each other in the lounge, later. But perhaps you're... Shy? That's fine. Come on in, take a look around and get a feel for things. It's a two-day event; come by on Friday, sit in on the presentations which interest you or hang around in the lounge and network with other people. Perhaps you'll be inspired to talk about something later, or on Saturday. You never really know. If you'd like to be able to listen, but don't know if you'll have anything to say, you can still... Help Out On the days of the event itself, we typically need greeters, people to babysit the facility overnight (some folks stay overnight), people to respond to technical issues such as "why won't the projector work with my laptop" and "could someone turn down the lights so we could see the screen?" We also have a subreddit again this year, r/BarCampGR. Use it to ask for certain subjects to be covered. Use it to offer subjects that you can talk about. During the event, use it to have almost-live discussions about things with people who aren't immediately present. After the event, use it to post supplemental materials and ask followup questions. We have a lot of other ways you can keep up to date on BarCampGR news and updates via the following social media outlets: * Website: http://barcampgr.org * Twitter: @barcampgr * Subreddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/BarCampGR/ * Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pages/BarCampGR/112347402141619 * Google+: https://plus.google.com/b/116952079842867940611/ Also, if you'd like to help us organize BarCampGR, then sign up for the BarCampGR Organizers' Email Group and jump right into the conversation at http://lists.barcampgr.org/listinfo.cgi/organizers-barcampgr.org, or join the Slack team via http://slack.barcampgr.org/ CODE OF CONDUCT You can read our code of conduct here: * http://barcampgr.org/code-of-conduct/ REGISTRATION http://barcampgr.org/register/ LOCATION DeVos Communications Center at Calvin College in Grand Rapids, MI SCHEDULE Friday, August 21, 2015 5:00-6:00 PM - Check-in and setup 6:00-7:00 PM - Dinner 7:00 PM - Kick things off with opening session 7:30-9:30 PM - Sessions every 1/2 hour 9:30 PM - After party Overnight 10:00 PM-whenever the next morning - Camping, all-night hacking, etc. There will be plenty of room to crash on Friday night, so bring a sleeping bag. Better yet, bring a tent for the geek base camp. You can also reserve clean, close accommodations at Calvin College’s Prince conference Center (http://www.calvin.edu/prince/accommodations/). Saturday, August 22, 2015 9:00-10:00 AM - Continental Breakfast 10:00 AM-12:00 PM - Sessions every 1/2 hour 12:00-1:00 PM - Lunch 1:00-2:00 PM - 5 minute Lightning Talks 2:00-4:00 PM - Sessions every 1/2 hour 4:00-4:30 PM - Closing session 4:30-5:30 PM - Cleanup * Note, despite the 'bar' in BarCampGR, the event doesn't take place in a bar, only the (optional) Friday after-party does. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 819 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: