From geektoyz at gmail.com Sat Nov 1 16:51:00 2014 From: geektoyz at gmail.com (Godwin) Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2014 16:51:00 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] looking for Ubuntu help In-Reply-To: <5452BA93.2010003@yahoo.com> References: <5452BA93.2010003@yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Hillary, Thanks for reaching out. I am forwarding your request to our Grand Rapids Linux Users Group list in hopes someone knows, and can reach out to the Kalamazoo Linux Users Group. They're a very active bunch with great experience and surely someone close to you will reach out. If you would, can you please give a bit more info, if possible? Can you describe the backup method used? How did you copy the 1.5GB of data to this station (external usb drive, over the network, etc.)? cheers, G- P. S. grlug, please include Hillary in your replies explicitly. Thanks. On Oct 30, 2014 6:24 PM, "Hillary Rettig" wrote: > Hi , > > I'm located in Kalamazoo and have a Ubuntu system with what appears to be > a munged file system. Details below, and I can't find anyone in K to fix > it, so have widened my search. (I can bring the machine to GR.) Do you know > a good consultant who could handle a job like the below? > > Thanks, > Hillary Rettig > hillary at hillaryrettig.com > 781-500-9942 > > Details: > > *a Zareason Ubuntu v. 12.04 LTS PC; I use it JUST for word processing with > openoffice > it's not hooked up to the Internet > > *I was copying 1.5 Gb of data files onto it (backing up another machine) > and the process aborted twice. from what I could tell there was still space > on the hard drive > > *then I noticed that the directory with my active files was weird > - the latest files missing > - some older files duplicated > - I didn't catch the exact problem early on, so deleted a bunch of the > dupes > - but the problem appears to have persisted > > *I have backups from last week so retrieval of latest files is not > crucial...but would be nice. > > ### > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From brousch at gmail.com Sun Nov 2 19:01:44 2014 From: brousch at gmail.com (Ben Rousch) Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2014 19:01:44 -0500 Subject: [GRLUG] Raspberry Pi, webcam, sensors, and Python Talk In-Reply-To: <1414971807.20628.1.camel@whitemice.org> References: <1414971807.20628.1.camel@whitemice.org> Message-ID: The slides and code are available at https://github.com/brousch/rpi_python_demo/tree/wmlug-2014-10-30 On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 6:43 PM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > On Tue, 2014-10-28 at 10:21 -0400, Ben Rousch wrote: > > This Thursday at the West Michigan Linux User Group meeting I'll be > > giving a talk about setting up a Raspberry Pi and creating Python > > programs that use a USB webcam and sensors with it. 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Kyle and myself serve as anchors; at least one of us will be here during the event. Time: 5PM-7PM Fridays, every week Location: 315 Richard Terrace, Grand Rapids MI 49506 (Not handicapped-accessible, sorry.) Google Street View: http://goo.gl/maps/CDOzO Commute: Parking is on the south side of the building, and The #6 bus route runs right in front of us, the #5 and #19 come close. Nearest stops: http://bit.ly/QyS7RY Food: Popcorn and water are free. Just about anything else is BYOB (No alcohol). This week, there will be a couple medium pizzas, and a jar for contributing to pizza purchase. (The money for the pizza is coming out of Mike's pocket.) Entry: The door is always locked, unless it's propped open. Ring the doorbell if it's shut. Loitering: When we have to go, we have to go. There are restaurants, cafes and bookstores all around, though. -- :wq From lvl at omnitec.net Mon Nov 3 17:04:27 2014 From: lvl at omnitec.net (L. V. Lammert) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2014 16:04:27 -0600 (CST) Subject: [GRLUG] Video Capture Message-ID: Does anyone have a source for EasyCap with the Linux compatible shipsets: stk1160 DC60 That seems to be the only version that has a kernel driver. Lee From lvl at omnitec.net Tue Nov 4 17:06:15 2014 From: lvl at omnitec.net (L. V. Lammert) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2014 16:06:15 -0600 (CST) Subject: [GRLUG] FF 33 & SSL Message-ID: Just found out that FF 33 is now blockig SSL connections with certs less than 1024 bits, .. which is a show-stopper for me as I have many systems (e.g. Webmin) on local machines and I would prefer to NOT have to diddle them to regenerate certs. Has anyone figured out a way to get FF 33 to connect to 512 bit connections? Lee From mikemol at gmail.com Tue Nov 4 17:21:51 2014 From: mikemol at gmail.com (Michael Mol) Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2014 17:21:51 -0500 Subject: [GRLUG] FF 33 & SSL In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5459517F.4070302@gmail.com> On 11/04/2014 05:06 PM, L. V. Lammert wrote: > Just found out that FF 33 is now blockig SSL connections with certs less > than 1024 bits, .. which is a show-stopper for me as I have many systems > (e.g. Webmin) on local machines and I would prefer to NOT have to diddle > them to regenerate certs. > > Has anyone figured out a way to get FF 33 to connect to 512 bit > connections? Use a proxy server with SSL inspection enabled? I haven't done it myself, but it would solve your problem. From lvl at omnitec.net Tue Nov 4 17:28:26 2014 From: lvl at omnitec.net (L. V. Lammert) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2014 16:28:26 -0600 (CST) Subject: [GRLUG] FF 33 & SSL Message-ID: On -1 xxx -1, it was written: > Use a proxy server with SSL inspection enabled? I haven't done it > myself, but it would solve your problem. > A proxy server is probably overkill, it's also the same network so it would take some reconfiguration so not worth the trouble. It does work with Midori, so I can use that until FF gets fixed. Thanks! Lee From mfarver at mindbent.org Tue Nov 4 17:29:56 2014 From: mfarver at mindbent.org (Mark Farver) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2014 17:29:56 -0500 Subject: [GRLUG] FF 33 & SSL In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: As far as I know Firefox stopped trusting CAs with certs less than 1024 bits. I would not expect this to have any effect on self signed certs. And it is negligent in the extreme to have been creating certs and CAs with less than 2048bits and/or MD5 hashes for at least the last 5 years. Yes it will suck but fix it anyway. If it is worth doing crypto it is worth doing crypto right. Mark On Nov 4, 2014 5:06 PM, "L. V. Lammert" wrote: > Just found out that FF 33 is now blockig SSL connections with certs less > than 1024 bits, .. which is a show-stopper for me as I have many systems > (e.g. Webmin) on local machines and I would prefer to NOT have to diddle > them to regenerate certs. > > Has anyone figured out a way to get FF 33 to connect to 512 bit > connections? > > Lee > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lvl at omnitec.net Tue Nov 4 19:35:05 2014 From: lvl at omnitec.net (L. V. Lammert) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2014 18:35:05 -0600 (CST) Subject: [GRLUG] FF 33 & SSL In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, 4 Nov 2014, Mark Farver wrote: > And it is negligent in the extreme to have been creating certs and CAs with > less than 2048bits and/or MD5 hashes for at least the last 5 years. > > Yes it will suck but fix it anyway. If it is worth doing crypto it is > worth doing crypto right. > Nothing to fix, .. it's an internal server behind a firewall. Midori works just fine, .. Thanks! Lee From mikemol at gmail.com Wed Nov 5 13:54:23 2014 From: mikemol at gmail.com (Michael Mol) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 13:54:23 -0500 Subject: [GRLUG] FF 33 & SSL In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: My theory would be that Firefox would work fine with this setup: 2048-bit CA signing a 2048-bit * server cert, which is used by the proxy server to spoof destination servers. So, in order: 1) Firefox connects to proxy server 2) Firefox issues CONNECT to try to reach a host over SSL 3) Firefox doesn't know it, but the proxy server intercepts the CONNECT 4) Proxy server sets up an HTTPS connection within the CONNECT channel, using its strong * cert, with SNI used to have Firefox tell it where it's going. 5) Firefox doesn't complain about this, since it trusts the CA the proxy server's cert was issued from, and all the certs in question are strong. 6) Proxy server makes a connection out its back end to the servers with weak certs, completing the connection. With Firefox none the wiser. And regarding negligence....LVL's servers in question sound like they're intranet, not public-facing. If the strength of those certs is an issue (meaning he faces MITM on the way there), then he's got a MITM attacker on his internal network, which is a much bigger issue on its own than a weak cert on an intranet server. On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 5:29 PM, Mark Farver wrote: > As far as I know Firefox stopped trusting CAs with certs less than 1024 > bits. I would not expect this to have any effect on self signed certs. > > And it is negligent in the extreme to have been creating certs and CAs with > less than 2048bits and/or MD5 hashes for at least the last 5 years. > > Yes it will suck but fix it anyway. If it is worth doing crypto it is worth > doing crypto right. > > Mark > > On Nov 4, 2014 5:06 PM, "L. V. Lammert" wrote: >> >> Just found out that FF 33 is now blockig SSL connections with certs less >> than 1024 bits, .. which is a show-stopper for me as I have many systems >> (e.g. Webmin) on local machines and I would prefer to NOT have to diddle >> them to regenerate certs. >> >> Has anyone figured out a way to get FF 33 to connect to 512 bit >> connections? >> >> Lee >> _______________________________________________ >> grlug mailing list >> grlug at grlug.org >> http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > > > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug -- :wq From mfarver at mindbent.org Wed Nov 5 14:54:54 2014 From: mfarver at mindbent.org (Mark Farver) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 14:54:54 -0500 Subject: [GRLUG] FF 33 & SSL In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Michael Mol wrote: > And regarding negligence....LVL's servers in question sound like > they're intranet, not public-facing. If the strength of those certs is > an issue (meaning he faces MITM on the way there), then he's got a > MITM attacker on his internal network, which is a much bigger issue on > its own than a weak cert on an intranet server. No, if you use TLS with weak certs that is worse than using no TLS at all. You are giving your customers and yourself a false sense of security. Not following industry standard security practices can be regarded as negligence. Especially since the weakness of <1024bit certs has been well known for close to a decade. In the age of APT and frequently compromised clients having a network with a crunchy exterior and a soft gooey center is not acceptable. MITM attacks are quite commonplace inside of the network boundary. Allowing an attacker to expand a minor client compromise into root access because you can't be arsed to run an openssl command a few times is unacceptable. Given the last year's vulnerabilities in OpenSSL you should already have regenerated all your keymat, expired all your certs, and generated new ones (hopefully ones that meet modern standards.) I'll repeat: if the connection is worth encrypting *at all* it is worth encrypting right. Mark From mikemol at gmail.com Wed Nov 5 15:36:16 2014 From: mikemol at gmail.com (Michael Mol) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 15:36:16 -0500 Subject: [GRLUG] FF 33 & SSL In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Mark Farver wrote: > On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Michael Mol wrote: >> And regarding negligence....LVL's servers in question sound like >> they're intranet, not public-facing. If the strength of those certs is >> an issue (meaning he faces MITM on the way there), then he's got a >> MITM attacker on his internal network, which is a much bigger issue on >> its own than a weak cert on an intranet server. > > No, if you use TLS with weak certs that is worse than using no TLS at > all. You are giving your customers and yourself a false sense of > security. Not following industry standard security practices can be > regarded as negligence. Especially since the weakness of <1024bit > certs has been well known for close to a decade. I agree with you 100% -- IF these servers are customer-facing. Based on my impressions in this thread, they only face *him*, and are likely not accessible outside his intranet. If that weren't the case, his switching to a different browser wouldn't even *begin* to be an acceptable solution, even from his perspective. -- :wq From lvl at omnitec.net Wed Nov 5 15:47:14 2014 From: lvl at omnitec.net (L. V. Lammert) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 14:47:14 -0600 (CST) Subject: [GRLUG] FF 33 & SSL In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, 5 Nov 2014, Mark Farver wrote: > No, if you use TLS with weak certs that is worse than using no TLS at > all. You are giving your customers and yourself a false sense of > security. > But you missed the main point - these are **internal** servers so there are no customers. Using Midori is the simplest solution until the machines are retired. Lee From timschmidt at gmail.com Wed Nov 5 15:55:04 2014 From: timschmidt at gmail.com (Tim Schmidt) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 15:55:04 -0500 Subject: [GRLUG] FF 33 & SSL In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Lots of internal machines are unworthy of trust. IP cameras, sensors, anything that connects to wifi, anything that belongs to the 'internet of things', essentially anything that runs software you didn't install. If you're not running something like PacketFence, you may not even know if one of more of these devices lives behind your firewall. Threat models which include only external connection attempts are woefully incomplete. --tim From timschmidt at gmail.com Wed Nov 5 16:00:58 2014 From: timschmidt at gmail.com (Tim Schmidt) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 16:00:58 -0500 Subject: [GRLUG] FF 33 & SSL In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hell, thanks to websockets, any machine running a web browser behind the firewall is a potential vector for 'interesting' activity. Looks like a lot of work has gone into confining them to port 80, etc, but there are several vulnerable releases of popular browsers on multiple platforms. :-/ --tim From lvl at omnitec.net Wed Nov 5 17:55:20 2014 From: lvl at omnitec.net (L. V. Lammert) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 16:55:20 -0600 (CST) Subject: [GRLUG] Wheezy & sound Message-ID: Trying to get sound running on a Wheezy system, .. seem to have mucked things up greatly. Has anyone seen a decent HowTo on getting one of the stacks configured from scratch [No YouTube, please!]? Tried Alsa, Pulseaudo, & JackD with no success so far, now something is borked as aplay and alsamixer are returning "permission denied". TIA!! lee From mikemol at gmail.com Wed Nov 5 17:57:20 2014 From: mikemol at gmail.com (Michael Mol) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 17:57:20 -0500 Subject: [GRLUG] FF 33 & SSL In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 4:00 PM, Tim Schmidt wrote: > Hell, thanks to websockets, any machine running a web browser behind > the firewall is a potential vector for 'interesting' activity. Looks > like a lot of work has gone into confining them to port 80, etc, but > there are several vulnerable releases of popular browsers on multiple > platforms. :-/ There are practical (budgetary, be it in equipment, personnel or time) reasons why you can only go so far in protecting a network. And I don't know about your setups, but my intranet servers are only accessible over isolated management VLANs accessed by way of VPNs, with servers further isolated from each other. I.e. there's no routable path that might allow a web server or phone server to access a VM host or an iLO, and there are a couple servers that have their own dedicated VLANs with external firewalls controlling ingress and egress, since I don't trust them much at all. No machine that isn't virtually dedicated to management roles can access management interfaces. Even then, I'd be OK with a proxy solution like I described. In theory, nothing can see the packets that shouldn't be able to, and if there's legacy stuff that's just darn difficult to clean up (say, a, an ancient EOL appliance), it would be one solution I'd look at. (I'd rather just get rid of the appliance, though...) -- :wq From patrick at upmerchants.com Wed Nov 5 18:19:59 2014 From: patrick at upmerchants.com (Patrick Goupell) Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2014 18:19:59 -0500 Subject: [GRLUG] Wheezy & sound In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <545AB09F.4090008@upmerchants.com> I generally install alsa-base, alsa-utils and alsamixer. after install run alsamixer and make sure that none of the channels are muted and set the volume levels. Use the up/down/right/left arrow keys to configure. Then run speaker-test and test for sound. You might want to uninstall alsa, pulseaudio and jackd first. On 11/05/2014 05:55 PM, L. V. Lammert wrote: > Trying to get sound running on a Wheezy system, .. seem to have mucked > things up greatly. > > Has anyone seen a decent HowTo on getting one of the stacks configured > from scratch [No YouTube, please!]? Tried Alsa, Pulseaudo, & JackD with no > success so far, now something is borked as aplay and alsamixer are > returning "permission denied". > > TIA!! > > lee > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > > -- Patrick Goupell Are you free? Find out at http://www.sedm.org/ Income taxes? Find out at http://www.whatistaxed.com From megadave at gmail.com Thu Nov 6 03:40:50 2014 From: megadave at gmail.com (Dave Chiodo) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 03:40:50 -0500 Subject: [GRLUG] FF 33 & SSL In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: If its internal and security is not relevant, why use https at all? Just use plain http. On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 7:35 PM, L. V. Lammert wrote: > On Tue, 4 Nov 2014, Mark Farver wrote: > > > And it is negligent in the extreme to have been creating certs and CAs > with > > less than 2048bits and/or MD5 hashes for at least the last 5 years. > > > > Yes it will suck but fix it anyway. If it is worth doing crypto it is > > worth doing crypto right. > > > Nothing to fix, .. it's an internal server behind a firewall. Midori works > just fine, .. > > Thanks! > > Lee > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From grlug at darkhaven.net Fri Nov 7 07:18:58 2014 From: grlug at darkhaven.net (Dan Taylor) Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2014 07:18:58 -0500 Subject: [GRLUG] FF 33 & SSL In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <545CB8B2.5000402@darkhaven.net> Security is always relevant, even internally. All it takes is one compromised machine. On 11/06/2014 03:40 AM, Dave Chiodo wrote: > If its internal and security is not relevant, why use https at all? > Just use plain http. > > On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 7:35 PM, L. V. Lammert > wrote: > > On Tue, 4 Nov 2014, Mark Farver wrote: > > > And it is negligent in the extreme to have been creating certs > and CAs with > > less than 2048bits and/or MD5 hashes for at least the last 5 years. > > > > Yes it will suck but fix it anyway. If it is worth doing crypto > it is > > worth doing crypto right. > > > Nothing to fix, .. it's an internal server behind a firewall. > Midori works > just fine, .. > > Thanks! > > Lee > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > > > > > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kyle at virtualinterconnect.com Thu Nov 13 13:25:51 2014 From: kyle at virtualinterconnect.com (Kyle Maas) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2014 13:25:51 -0500 Subject: [GRLUG] Friday After Five Message-ID: <5464F7AF.9000808@virtualinterconnect.com> We here at Virtual Interconnect are hosting the Grand Rapids Linux User's Group for weekly socials. Mike and myself serve as anchors; at least one of us will be here during the event. Time: 5PM-7PM Fridays, every week Location: 315 Richard Terrace, Grand Rapids MI 49506 (Not handicapped-accessible, sorry.) Google Street View: http://goo.gl/maps/CDOzO Commute: Parking is on the south side of the building, and The #6 bus route runs right in front of us, the #5 and #19 come close. Nearest stops: http://bit.ly/QyS7RY Food: Popcorn and water are free. Just about anything else is BYOB (No alcohol). This week, there will be a couple medium pizzas, and a jar for contributing to pizza purchase. (The money for the pizza is coming out of Mike's pocket.) Entry: The door is always locked, unless it's propped open. Ring the doorbell if it's shut. Loitering: When we have to go, we have to go. There are restaurants, cafes and bookstores all around, though. From mikemol at gmail.com Fri Nov 14 19:03:33 2014 From: mikemol at gmail.com (Michael Mol) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2014 19:03:33 -0500 Subject: [GRLUG] First Lego League Tournament - December 6th Message-ID: A friend of mine needs volunteers. I've quoted his email: >I am the coordinator for a First Lego League state qualifying Tournament. We are holding it at Grand Rapids Innovation Central High School on December 6th. >This tournament is for team with ages 9 to 14. The FLL program focuses on core values of gracious professionalism and team work as well as building Lego autonomous robots to compete in the field games. >FLL encourages exploration in the sciences, engineering, design and technology. The teams also take on a project each season. > >Find out more about FLL: http://www.usfirst.org/roboticsprograms/fll > We are looking for two points of assistance. > 1. We need 70 event volunteers. Some of the area responsibilities needed include. Setup, Tear down, Judges, Referees, team helpers, Judging room assistants, and more In all we need about 70 volunteers. For those interested in volunteering: http://www.usfirst.org/whats-going-on/event/16671?ProgramCode=FLL > 2. We also need to raise $3,000 additional to pay for tournament expenses. We are seeking donations and corporate sponsors. Currently, Steelcase, Consumers Power, and Grand Dial Communications have lent their support. Individuals who know of organizations willing to assist thru sponsorships, please contact me ASAP. > I am committed that kids from our community have an outstanding experience, and with the support of Grand Rapids Public Schools; our sponsors, and volunteers the kids will have this opportunity to shine. > Thank you for any assistance you can offer. > Bryant Zimmerman (ZK Tech Inc.) > 616-855-1030 Ext. 2003 -- :wq From jwm8351 at yahoo.com Sat Nov 15 21:35:59 2014 From: jwm8351 at yahoo.com (Joseph McLaughlin) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2014 02:35:59 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [GRLUG] ubuntu running win 7 virtual Message-ID: <1311369327.718059.1416105359240.JavaMail.yahoo@jws100194.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> My old win pc died. I have eight core amd ubuntu box. Which virtual program would be best to run a win 7 system? For those who are wondering - I have geforce 6100-m9 mother board - power supply passes - but no video.removed all ram and power to the drives - nada Thanks Joe -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jwm8351 at yahoo.com Sat Nov 15 22:21:54 2014 From: jwm8351 at yahoo.com (Joseph McLaughlin) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2014 03:21:54 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [GRLUG] ubuntu running win 7 virtual Message-ID: <767048281.728801.1416108114125.JavaMail.yahoo@jws100109.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> My old win pc died. I have eight core amd ubuntu box. Which virtual program would be best to run a win 7 system? For those who are wondering - I have geforce 6100-m9 mother board - power supply passes - but no video.removed all ram and power to the drives - nada Thanks Joe -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lvl at omnitec.net Sat Nov 15 22:44:17 2014 From: lvl at omnitec.net (L. V. Lammert) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2014 21:44:17 -0600 (CST) Subject: [GRLUG] ubuntu running win 7 virtual In-Reply-To: <767048281.728801.1416108114125.JavaMail.yahoo@jws100109.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <767048281.728801.1416108114125.JavaMail.yahoo@jws100109.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Sun, 16 Nov 2014, Joseph McLaughlin wrote: > My old win pc died. > I have eight core amd ubuntu box. > Which virtual program would be best to run a win 7 system? > Been using VirtualBox for years on SuSE, .. > For those who are wondering - I have geforce 6100-m9 mother board - > power supply passes - but no video.removed all ram and power to the > drives - nada > Any BIOS beeps? If PS is OK, next most likely is video. Lee From patrick at upmerchants.com Sun Nov 16 08:10:14 2014 From: patrick at upmerchants.com (Patrick Goupell) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2014 08:10:14 -0500 Subject: [GRLUG] ubuntu running win 7 virtual In-Reply-To: References: <767048281.728801.1416108114125.JavaMail.yahoo@jws100109.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5468A236.50604@upmerchants.com> I use kvm on debian wheezy. I did the orginal setup as documented here: http://www.howtoforge.com/virtualization-with-kvm-on-a-debian-squeeze-server The only thing I don't like / have is sound in the guest. Otherwise it works fine. On 11/15/2014 10:44 PM, L. V. Lammert wrote: > On Sun, 16 Nov 2014, Joseph McLaughlin wrote: > >> My old win pc died. >> I have eight core amd ubuntu box. >> Which virtual program would be best to run a win 7 system? >> > Been using VirtualBox for years on SuSE, .. > >> For those who are wondering - I have geforce 6100-m9 mother board - >> power supply passes - but no video.removed all ram and power to the >> drives - nada >> > Any BIOS beeps? If PS is OK, next most likely is video. > > Lee > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > > -- Patrick Goupell Are you free? Find out at http://www.sedm.org/ Income taxes? Find out at http://www.whatistaxed.com From lvl at omnitec.net Sun Nov 16 13:21:26 2014 From: lvl at omnitec.net (L. V. Lammert) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2014 12:21:26 -0600 (CST) Subject: [GRLUG] VSphere Converter Installer for Linux Message-ID: Trying to P2V an old Windows machine (the HW is dead), .. I recall mention of the VMWare Converter as the best tool. Unfortunately, v5.1 appears to only be available as an EXE, and the only "Linux/Open Source" code are actual utilities like gcc, et al. Is the Linux installer gone? I can find references to it being there in 4.01, .. but that is no longer available. If gone, what is the best way now to convert an old Windows XP machine? TIA! lee From john at wesorick.com Sun Nov 16 13:53:02 2014 From: john at wesorick.com (John Wesorick) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2014 18:53:02 +0000 Subject: [GRLUG] VSphere Converter Installer for Linux References: Message-ID: Can't you just dd the drive to a raw disk file, then use that or convert to whatever format you want? On Sun, Nov 16, 2014, 1:21 PM L. V. Lammert wrote: > Trying to P2V an old Windows machine (the HW is dead), .. I recall mention > of the VMWare Converter as the best tool. Unfortunately, v5.1 appears to > only be available as an EXE, and the only "Linux/Open Source" code are > actual utilities like gcc, et al. > > Is the Linux installer gone? I can find references to it being there in > 4.01, .. but that is no longer available. > > If gone, what is the best way now to convert an old Windows XP machine? > > TIA! > > lee > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lvl at omnitec.net Sun Nov 16 13:58:12 2014 From: lvl at omnitec.net (L. V. Lammert) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2014 12:58:12 -0600 (CST) Subject: [GRLUG] VSphere Converter Installer for Linux In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sun, 16 Nov 2014, John Wesorick wrote: > Can't you just dd the drive to a raw disk file, then use that or convert to > whatever format you want? > Have not tried it, but all fo the references I have seen indicate That does not work with Windoze, .. too many hardware drivers involved. Lee From patrick at upmerchants.com Sun Nov 16 15:07:05 2014 From: patrick at upmerchants.com (Patrick Goupell) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2014 15:07:05 -0500 Subject: [GRLUG] VSphere Converter Installer for Linux In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <546903E9.9020409@upmerchants.com> On 11/16/2014 01:58 PM, L. V. Lammert wrote: > On Sun, 16 Nov 2014, John Wesorick wrote: > >> Can't you just dd the drive to a raw disk file, then use that or convert to >> whatever format you want? >> > Have not tried it, but all fo the references I have seen indicate That > does not work with Windoze, .. too many hardware drivers involved. > > Lee > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > Try cloning the drive with clonezilla. Get a copy of clonezilla. Plug the drive into your vm host or a machine with storage accessabel by your vm host. boot clonezilla and clone an image of the disk to the vm host accessable storage. Define your guest machinge. boot clonezilla on the guest machine and restore the image disconnect the clonezilla boot disk and boot the restored image. Sounds messy but really not too bad once you do it a couple of times. -- Patrick Goupell Are you free? Find out at http://www.sedm.org/ Income taxes? Find out at http://www.whatistaxed.com From jwm8351 at yahoo.com Sat Nov 15 23:25:47 2014 From: jwm8351 at yahoo.com (Joseph McLaughlin) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2014 04:25:47 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [GRLUG] ubuntu running win 7 virtual In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1574965784.721834.1416111947931.JavaMail.yahoo@jws10048.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Took a closer look it might be bad caps From: L. V. Lammert To: Joseph McLaughlin ; "Mailing List for LUG in greater Grand Rapids, MI area." Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2014 10:44 PM Subject: Re: [GRLUG] ubuntu running win 7 virtual On Sun, 16 Nov 2014, Joseph McLaughlin wrote: > My old win pc died. > I have eight core amd ubuntu box. > Which virtual program would be best to run a win 7 system? > Been using VirtualBox for years on SuSE, .. > For those who are wondering - I have geforce 6100-m9 mother board - > power supply passes - but no video.removed all ram and power to the > drives - nada > Any BIOS beeps? If PS is OK, next most likely is video. ??? Lee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lvl at omnitec.net Mon Nov 17 09:19:04 2014 From: lvl at omnitec.net (L. V. Lammert) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2014 08:19:04 -0600 (CST) Subject: [GRLUG] ubuntu running win 7 virtual In-Reply-To: <1574965784.721834.1416111947931.JavaMail.yahoo@jws10048.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1574965784.721834.1416111947931.JavaMail.yahoo@jws10048.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Sun, 16 Nov 2014, Joseph McLaughlin wrote: > Took a closer look it might be bad caps > Or, more correctly, cheap Chinese caps ! Lee From mikemol at gmail.com Wed Nov 19 16:07:58 2014 From: mikemol at gmail.com (Michael Mol) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 16:07:58 -0500 Subject: [GRLUG] Friday After Five...? Message-ID: Don't know yet if we'll have one this week. We're going to get another 5-10" of snow through Friday morning. Right *now*, the hourly forecast shows that precipitation will stop by around 1PM, but every snow forecast I've looked at for the past week has been too conservatively low. http://preview.tinyurl.com/ngjnx27 I'll make the announcement one way or another Friday morning. -- :wq From mikemol at gmail.com Fri Nov 21 07:57:53 2014 From: mikemol at gmail.com (Michael Mol) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 07:57:53 -0500 Subject: [GRLUG] Friday After Five Message-ID: We had another great evening at GRLUG last week. We didn't run out of chairs, but, well, that's because we got more chairs. Note: There will be no FAF the day after Thanksgiving. Boilerplate follows: We here at Virtual Interconnect are hosting the Grand Rapids Linux User's Group for weekly socials. Kyle and myself serve as anchors; at least one of us will be here during the event. Time: 5PM-7PM Fridays, every week Location: 315 Richard Terrace, Grand Rapids MI 49506 (Not handicapped-accessible, sorry.) Google Street View: http://goo.gl/maps/CDOzO Commute: Parking is on the south side of the building, and The #6 bus route runs right in front of us, the #5 and #19 come close. Nearest stops: http://bit.ly/QyS7RY Food: Popcorn and water are free. Just about anything else is BYOB (No alcohol). This week, there will be a couple medium pizzas, and a jar for contributing to pizza purchase. (The money for the pizza is coming out of Mike's pocket and previous contributions to the pizza jar.) Entry: The door is always locked, unless it's propped open. Ring the doorbell if it's shut. Loitering: When we have to go, we have to go, and you can't stay inside. It's frelling cold, but some guys like to go to Stella's afterward. -- :wq From lvl at omnitec.net Fri Nov 21 11:28:30 2014 From: lvl at omnitec.net (L. V. Lammert) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 10:28:30 -0600 (CST) Subject: [GRLUG] Linux & IOS7 Message-ID: Have an iPad that I normally use for ForeFlight (and not much else), but I do need to transfer pdfs to the iPad on occasion. With IOS6, I could use the USB cable to 'expose' app directories on the iPad from Linux, and transfer files to the iPad and them open then there and 'add' to the proper application. It appears that IOS7 now prevents this capability, as plugging in the USB cable just pops up a never-ender series of "Trust this computer". Anyone found a workaround to this issue? Thanks! Lee