From tomewarren+grlug at gmail.com Tue Nov 5 09:11:20 2013 From: tomewarren+grlug at gmail.com (Tom Warren) Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 09:11:20 -0500 Subject: [GRLUG] Linux Job Message-ID: Hello everyone, I received the following job request if anyone is interested contact jerry at cynetsystems.com Job Details: JOB TITLE: Linux Engineer JOB LOCATION: Midland MI TERMS: 12 months contract Job Description: Day to Day operational support of RedHat Linux VMware virtual guests include the following: Addressing full file systems Core dumps User login, X-Display, password resets, LDAP, DNS issues Trouble shooting with application support team for installations and support Monitoring using onsite tools, Big Brother and HP Openview Service Center Problem and Incident ticket resolution Ability to be on-call 7x24 365 days rotating schedule. Experience: Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5.x and 6.x advanced administration Red Hat Satellite NFS / Samba / CIFS shares LDAP, AD, and DNS integration and usage Shell scripting (AWK, Bash, Ksh, Perl) VMware 5.x Guest administration Fundamental understanding of SAN attached Storage Fundamental understanding of Blade architecture in VMware space. Unix/Linux trouble shooting skills Preffered Skills: Solaris and Solaris zones experience a Plus TSM experience a plus Suse Linux 10, 11 Understanding of Oracle Understanding of SAP and its Software Components -- Tom Warren tomewarren at gmail.com Dell - Storage Architect Red Hat Certified Engineer (RHCE) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These opinions are mine and not necessarily those of my employer, Dell -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I got a message? it said this: Hello everyone, I received the following job request if anyone is interested contact jerry at cynetsystems.com Job Details: JOB TITLE: Linux Engineer JOB LOCATION: Midland MI TERMS: 12 months contract Job Description: Day to Day operational support of RedHat Linux VMware virtual guests include the following: Addressing full file systems Core dumps User login, X-Display, password resets, LDAP, DNS issues Trouble shooting with application support team for installations and support Monitoring using onsite tools, Big Brother and HP Openview Service Center Problem and Incident ticket resolution Ability to be on-call 7x24 365 days rotating schedule. Experience: Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5.x and 6.x advanced administration Red Hat Satellite NFS / Samba / CIFS shares LDAP, AD, and DNS integration and usage Shell scripting (AWK, Bash, Ksh, Perl) VMware 5.x Guest administration Fundamental understanding of SAN attached Storage Fundamental understanding of Blade architecture in VMware space. Unix/Linux trouble shooting skills Preffered Skills: Solaris and Solaris zones experience a Plus TSM experience a plus Suse Linux 10, 11 Understanding of Oracle Understanding of SAP and its Software Components -- Tom Warren tomewarren at gmail.com Dell - Storage Architect Red Hat Certified Engineer (RHCE) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These opinions are mine and not necessarily those of my employer, Dell -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 4094 bytes Desc: not available URL: From leapole at gmail.com Tue Nov 5 17:53:58 2013 From: leapole at gmail.com (Josh) Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 14:53:58 -0800 Subject: [GRLUG] Linux Job In-Reply-To: <4B8535F6-D57B-42AC-A65F-CC3AC01718E5@zigg.com> References: <8AA65EF2-58E5-4FA9-B6BC-3BFC4A96561E@gmail.com> <4B8535F6-D57B-42AC-A65F-CC3AC01718E5@zigg.com> Message-ID: <1F981D9F-6AB5-4401-AC21-448A443C1297@gmail.com> Thanks it only took 5 hours for my phone to download that and even now I think it cheated and looked at your mail > On Nov 5, 2013, at 11:59 AM, Matt Behrens wrote: > >> On Nov 5, 2013, at 11:41 AM, Josh wrote: >> >> ? > > I got a message? it said this: > > Hello everyone, > > I received the following job request if anyone is interested contact jerry at cynetsystems.com > > > Job Details: > JOB TITLE: Linux Engineer > JOB LOCATION: Midland MI > TERMS: 12 months contract > > Job Description: > > Day to Day operational support of RedHat Linux VMware virtual guests include the following: > Addressing full file systems > Core dumps > User login, X-Display, password resets, LDAP, DNS issues > Trouble shooting with application support team for installations and support > Monitoring using onsite tools, Big Brother and HP Openview > Service Center Problem and Incident ticket resolution > Ability to be on-call 7x24 365 days rotating schedule. > > Experience: > Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5.x and 6.x advanced administration > Red Hat Satellite > NFS / Samba / CIFS shares > LDAP, AD, and DNS integration and usage > Shell scripting (AWK, Bash, Ksh, Perl) > VMware 5.x Guest administration > Fundamental understanding of SAN attached Storage > Fundamental understanding of Blade architecture in VMware space. > Unix/Linux trouble shooting skills > > Preffered Skills: > Solaris and Solaris zones experience a Plus > TSM experience a plus > Suse Linux 10, 11 > Understanding of Oracle > Understanding of SAP and its Software Components > > > > -- > Tom Warren tomewarren at gmail.com > Dell - Storage Architect Red Hat Certified Engineer (RHCE) > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > These opinions are mine and not necessarily those of my employer, Dell > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug From coderjoe69 at yahoo.com Mon Nov 11 00:26:50 2013 From: coderjoe69 at yahoo.com (Thad Ward) Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2013 21:26:50 -0800 (PST) Subject: [GRLUG] [Fwd: Dr. Who - 50th Anniversary: Not permitted] In-Reply-To: References: <1382994691.28523.4.camel@omg.gregfolkert.net> Message-ID: <1384147610.93413.YahooMailNeo@web160701.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> There is a theater in Kalamazoo and one in Battle Creek that are showing it as well. There are also a few northern Indiana locations. And then Detroit area, Flint, and Chicago. http://www.fathomevents.com/event/doctor-who-the-day-of-the-doctor/more-info/theater-locations >________________________________ > From: Jonathan Jesse >To: "Mailing List for LUG in greater Grand Rapids, MI area." >Sent: Monday, October 28, 2013 9:42 PM >Subject: Re: [GRLUG] [Fwd: Dr. Who - 50th Anniversary: Not permitted] > > > >well that sucks, guess we have to all road trip to chicago? > > > >On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 5:11 PM, Greg Folkert wrote: > >Bummer! It comes down to a deal with Real 3D blocking everything and >>only allowing a number of slots. >> >>GRRR. >> >>-------- Forwarded Message -------- >>From: Jeannie Deibis >>Subject: Dr. Who - 50th Anniversary: Not permitted >>Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2013 21:06:26 +0000 >> >>Good afternoon whovians... please forgive my mass email, but I have some >>news... >> >>?As we learn about each other, so we learn about ourselves.? >> >>Celebration! Cinema is so sad to announce that Fathom Events and BBC >>will not permit our theatres to play the Dr. Who ? 50th Anniversary 3D >>movie event. ?They have a special partnership with Real 3D theatres, and >>our theatres utilize Master Image 3D systems. >> >>We are very disappointed that we will not be able to play this on the >>big screen for you at your favorite Celebration! Cinema (Cinema Carousel >>and Studio C!). ?We have been trying to book this awesome event since >>late summer and, well, we feel a bit gipped over this. >> >>Should anything change, we will keep you posted. ?We really need a Time >>Lord here to help? >> >>?People spend all their time making nice things and then other people >>come along and break them.? >> >>We sure wish those ?other people? had chosen Celebration! Cinema. ?Thank >>you for your help and voice in reaching out to BBC and Fathom Events on >>your own, fingers crossed for a change. >> >> >>Jeannie Deibis >>Programming Coordinator >>Celebration! Cinema >>2121 Celebration Drive NE >>Grand Rapids, MI 49525 >>P: (616) 447-4224 >>F: (616) 447-4201 >>celebrationcinema.com >> >> >>-- >>greg at gregfolkert.net >>PGP key 1024D/B524687C 2003-08-05 >>Fingerprint: E1D3 E3D7 5850 957E FED0 2B3A ED66 6971 B524 687C >>"Be brave. Take risks. Nothing can substitute experience." >>? ? -- Paulo Coelho >> >>_______________________________________________ >>grlug mailing list >>grlug at grlug.org >>http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug >> > > >_______________________________________________ >grlug mailing list >grlug at grlug.org >http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > > From ebever at researchintegration.org Tue Nov 12 12:57:08 2013 From: ebever at researchintegration.org (Eric Beversluis) Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 12:57:08 -0500 Subject: [GRLUG] fstab query Message-ID: <1384279028.12676.15.camel@ericscomputer.cyberacc.com> We are trying to insert a line into fstab on a ClearOS (based on CentOS) server to mount an ioSafe on reboot. Something doesn't seem to be working right. The first time we rebooted after inserting the line (see below) into fstab, it crashed. We removed the line from fstab and manually mounted the ioSafe. Another time we tried again; this time it seemed to boot ok but the ioSafe did not mount. Are we going about this right? We formated the ioSafe this way (retaining the GPT partition table): Num Start End Size File sys Name Flags 1 17.4kB 134MB 134MB Microsoft reserved partition msftres 2 135MB 4001GB 4001GB ext4 Basic data partition (Research seemed to suggest it best to leave the MS reserved partition.) The fstab line we entered was this: UUID=dd06173e-9fb2-47f8-8841-5ed96e4d4ee4 /mnt/ioSafe ext4 defaults,nofail 0 0 (The first time we set the value to 2.) It has been suggested that the reason this fstab entry doesn't work is that the first partition does not have the ext4 file system. --Does any know, is that really the case--that it won't mount partition 2 (using the UUID of partition 2) because partition one is a different file type? It mounts partition 2 fine manually from the 'mount' command (using /dev/sdc2; I haven't tried using the UUID with mount) . --if so, can I just delete the first partition and leave blank space? I would not want to re-format the whole drive, since we already have backup data on it. Thanks. From mfarver at mindbent.org Tue Nov 12 14:24:56 2013 From: mfarver at mindbent.org (Mark Farver) Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 14:24:56 -0500 Subject: [GRLUG] fstab query In-Reply-To: <1384279028.12676.15.camel@ericscomputer.cyberacc.com> References: <1384279028.12676.15.camel@ericscomputer.cyberacc.com> Message-ID: Try putting the /dev/sdc2 entry into fstab instead of the UID. Make sure you can then mount and unmount the drive by typing "mount /mnt/ioSafe" If that works then you can reboot. Mark On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Eric Beversluis wrote: > We are trying to insert a line into fstab on a ClearOS (based on CentOS) > server to mount an ioSafe on reboot. Something doesn't seem to be > working right. The first time we rebooted after inserting the line (see > below) into fstab, it crashed. We removed the line from fstab and > manually mounted the ioSafe. Another time we tried again; this time it > seemed to boot ok but the ioSafe did not mount. > > Are we going about this right? > We formated the ioSafe this way (retaining the GPT partition table): > Num Start End Size File sys Name Flags > 1 17.4kB 134MB 134MB Microsoft reserved partition msftres > 2 135MB 4001GB 4001GB ext4 Basic data partition > > (Research seemed to suggest it best to leave the MS reserved partition.) > > The fstab line we entered was this: > UUID=dd06173e-9fb2-47f8-8841-5ed96e4d4ee4 /mnt/ioSafe ext4 > defaults,nofail 0 0 > > (The first time we set the value to 2.) > > It has been suggested that the reason this fstab entry doesn't work is > that the first partition does not have the ext4 file system. > > --Does any know, is that really the case--that it won't mount partition > 2 (using the UUID of partition 2) because partition one is a different > file type? It mounts partition 2 fine manually from the 'mount' command > (using /dev/sdc2; I haven't tried using the UUID with mount) . > > --if so, can I just delete the first partition and leave blank space? I > would not want to re-format the whole drive, since we already have > backup data on it. > > Thanks. > > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug From ebever at researchintegration.org Tue Nov 12 14:43:51 2013 From: ebever at researchintegration.org (Eric Beversluis) Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 14:43:51 -0500 Subject: [GRLUG] fstab query In-Reply-To: References: <1384279028.12676.15.camel@ericscomputer.cyberacc.com> Message-ID: <1384285431.13549.13.camel@ericscomputer.cyberacc.com> I suspect it would work using /dev/sdc2. The reason I wanted to use the UUID was in case it got moved to a different USB port or something else caused it to be something other than 'sdc'. We'll be running a cron job to back up to that drive and don't want a problem in case at some point it becomes /dev/sdd2. Is that something we need to worry about? On Tue, 2013-11-12 at 14:24 -0500, Mark Farver wrote: > Try putting the /dev/sdc2 entry into fstab instead of the UID. Make > sure you can then mount and unmount the drive by typing "mount > /mnt/ioSafe" If that works then you can reboot. > > Mark > > On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Eric Beversluis > wrote: > > We are trying to insert a line into fstab on a ClearOS (based on CentOS) > > server to mount an ioSafe on reboot. Something doesn't seem to be > > working right. The first time we rebooted after inserting the line (see > > below) into fstab, it crashed. We removed the line from fstab and > > manually mounted the ioSafe. Another time we tried again; this time it > > seemed to boot ok but the ioSafe did not mount. > > > > Are we going about this right? > > We formated the ioSafe this way (retaining the GPT partition table): > > Num Start End Size File sys Name Flags > > 1 17.4kB 134MB 134MB Microsoft reserved partition msftres > > 2 135MB 4001GB 4001GB ext4 Basic data partition > > > > (Research seemed to suggest it best to leave the MS reserved partition.) > > > > The fstab line we entered was this: > > UUID=dd06173e-9fb2-47f8-8841-5ed96e4d4ee4 /mnt/ioSafe ext4 > > defaults,nofail 0 0 > > > > (The first time we set the value to 2.) > > > > It has been suggested that the reason this fstab entry doesn't work is > > that the first partition does not have the ext4 file system. > > > > --Does any know, is that really the case--that it won't mount partition > > 2 (using the UUID of partition 2) because partition one is a different > > file type? It mounts partition 2 fine manually from the 'mount' command > > (using /dev/sdc2; I haven't tried using the UUID with mount) . > > > > --if so, can I just delete the first partition and leave blank space? I > > would not want to re-format the whole drive, since we already have > > backup data on it. > > > > Thanks. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > grlug mailing list > > grlug at grlug.org > > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug From mfarver at mindbent.org Tue Nov 12 14:52:29 2013 From: mfarver at mindbent.org (Mark Farver) Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 14:52:29 -0500 Subject: [GRLUG] fstab query In-Reply-To: <1384285431.13549.13.camel@ericscomputer.cyberacc.com> References: <1384279028.12676.15.camel@ericscomputer.cyberacc.com> <1384285431.13549.13.camel@ericscomputer.cyberacc.com> Message-ID: I would verify it works with the dev entry, if it does you can start figuring out why it won't work by UUID. This may be helpful, it seems to imply you need the usb driver in the initrd image. http://nigglingaspirations.blogspot.com/2010/07/usb-drive-fstab-uuid-arch-linux.html Maybe mounting by UUID is only done once before the pivot root. Mark Farver On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 2:43 PM, Eric Beversluis wrote: > I suspect it would work using /dev/sdc2. The reason I wanted to use the > UUID was in case it got moved to a different USB port or something else > caused it to be something other than 'sdc'. We'll be running a cron job > to back up to that drive and don't want a problem in case at some point > it becomes /dev/sdd2. Is that something we need to worry about? > > On Tue, 2013-11-12 at 14:24 -0500, Mark Farver wrote: >> Try putting the /dev/sdc2 entry into fstab instead of the UID. Make >> sure you can then mount and unmount the drive by typing "mount >> /mnt/ioSafe" If that works then you can reboot. >> >> Mark >> >> On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Eric Beversluis >> wrote: >> > We are trying to insert a line into fstab on a ClearOS (based on CentOS) >> > server to mount an ioSafe on reboot. Something doesn't seem to be >> > working right. The first time we rebooted after inserting the line (see >> > below) into fstab, it crashed. We removed the line from fstab and >> > manually mounted the ioSafe. Another time we tried again; this time it >> > seemed to boot ok but the ioSafe did not mount. >> > >> > Are we going about this right? >> > We formated the ioSafe this way (retaining the GPT partition table): >> > Num Start End Size File sys Name Flags >> > 1 17.4kB 134MB 134MB Microsoft reserved partition msftres >> > 2 135MB 4001GB 4001GB ext4 Basic data partition >> > >> > (Research seemed to suggest it best to leave the MS reserved partition.) >> > >> > The fstab line we entered was this: >> > UUID=dd06173e-9fb2-47f8-8841-5ed96e4d4ee4 /mnt/ioSafe ext4 >> > defaults,nofail 0 0 >> > >> > (The first time we set the value to 2.) >> > >> > It has been suggested that the reason this fstab entry doesn't work is >> > that the first partition does not have the ext4 file system. >> > >> > --Does any know, is that really the case--that it won't mount partition >> > 2 (using the UUID of partition 2) because partition one is a different >> > file type? It mounts partition 2 fine manually from the 'mount' command >> > (using /dev/sdc2; I haven't tried using the UUID with mount) . >> > >> > --if so, can I just delete the first partition and leave blank space? I >> > would not want to re-format the whole drive, since we already have >> > backup data on it. >> > >> > Thanks. >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > grlug mailing list >> > grlug at grlug.org >> > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug >> _______________________________________________ >> grlug mailing list >> grlug at grlug.org >> http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > > > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug From ebever at researchintegration.org Tue Nov 12 15:08:47 2013 From: ebever at researchintegration.org (Eric Beversluis) Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 15:08:47 -0500 Subject: [GRLUG] fstab query In-Reply-To: References: <1384279028.12676.15.camel@ericscomputer.cyberacc.com> <1384285431.13549.13.camel@ericscomputer.cyberacc.com> Message-ID: <1384286927.13549.15.camel@ericscomputer.cyberacc.com> I'll check that out. Thanks. On Tue, 2013-11-12 at 14:52 -0500, Mark Farver wrote: > I would verify it works with the dev entry, if it does you can start > figuring out why it won't work by UUID. > > This may be helpful, it seems to imply you need the usb driver in the > initrd image. > > http://nigglingaspirations.blogspot.com/2010/07/usb-drive-fstab-uuid-arch-linux.html > > Maybe mounting by UUID is only done once before the pivot root. > > Mark Farver > > On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 2:43 PM, Eric Beversluis > wrote: > > I suspect it would work using /dev/sdc2. The reason I wanted to use the > > UUID was in case it got moved to a different USB port or something else > > caused it to be something other than 'sdc'. We'll be running a cron job > > to back up to that drive and don't want a problem in case at some point > > it becomes /dev/sdd2. Is that something we need to worry about? > > > > On Tue, 2013-11-12 at 14:24 -0500, Mark Farver wrote: > >> Try putting the /dev/sdc2 entry into fstab instead of the UID. Make > >> sure you can then mount and unmount the drive by typing "mount > >> /mnt/ioSafe" If that works then you can reboot. > >> > >> Mark > >> > >> On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Eric Beversluis > >> wrote: > >> > We are trying to insert a line into fstab on a ClearOS (based on CentOS) > >> > server to mount an ioSafe on reboot. Something doesn't seem to be > >> > working right. The first time we rebooted after inserting the line (see > >> > below) into fstab, it crashed. We removed the line from fstab and > >> > manually mounted the ioSafe. Another time we tried again; this time it > >> > seemed to boot ok but the ioSafe did not mount. > >> > > >> > Are we going about this right? > >> > We formated the ioSafe this way (retaining the GPT partition table): > >> > Num Start End Size File sys Name Flags > >> > 1 17.4kB 134MB 134MB Microsoft reserved partition msftres > >> > 2 135MB 4001GB 4001GB ext4 Basic data partition > >> > > >> > (Research seemed to suggest it best to leave the MS reserved partition.) > >> > > >> > The fstab line we entered was this: > >> > UUID=dd06173e-9fb2-47f8-8841-5ed96e4d4ee4 /mnt/ioSafe ext4 > >> > defaults,nofail 0 0 > >> > > >> > (The first time we set the value to 2.) > >> > > >> > It has been suggested that the reason this fstab entry doesn't work is > >> > that the first partition does not have the ext4 file system. > >> > > >> > --Does any know, is that really the case--that it won't mount partition > >> > 2 (using the UUID of partition 2) because partition one is a different > >> > file type? It mounts partition 2 fine manually from the 'mount' command > >> > (using /dev/sdc2; I haven't tried using the UUID with mount) . > >> > > >> > --if so, can I just delete the first partition and leave blank space? I > >> > would not want to re-format the whole drive, since we already have > >> > backup data on it. > >> > > >> > Thanks. > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > grlug mailing list > >> > grlug at grlug.org > >> > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > >> _______________________________________________ > >> grlug mailing list > >> grlug at grlug.org > >> http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > grlug mailing list > > grlug at grlug.org > > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug From lvl at omnitec.net Thu Nov 14 10:51:33 2013 From: lvl at omnitec.net (L. V. Lammert) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 09:51:33 -0600 (CST) Subject: [GRLUG] Citrix, anyone? Message-ID: Trying to get Citrix "Receiver" running on a 64-bit platform, .. I was surprised to see a bunch of DLLs, and at least two unresolved dependencies! The "Citrix Receiver" will launch, but it fails at "create an account" on the Server. Problem is, there is no way to tell what executable is running, so I don't know if the problem is another unresolved dependencyy, or something else. The error message says to "Cancel" creating an account and proceed to the connection, but at that point it dies. Is there a different execurable for the "Receiver" that should run after creating an account fails? Unfortunately, I can see no way to identify the executable(s) involved to check for unresolved dependencies, .. Thanks! Lee From greg at gregfolkert.net Thu Nov 14 11:56:24 2013 From: greg at gregfolkert.net (Greg Folkert) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 11:56:24 -0500 Subject: [GRLUG] Is this a Linux User group Mailing List? Message-ID: <1384448184.1070.29.camel@omg.gregfolkert.net> I'm wondering, if this is a Linux User Group's Mailing list? By all rights and intents, I thought it was one. I mean, he I am posting about Dr. Who... and then I'm still seeing Windows issues being posted on this list. I guess I'll just stop. -- greg at gregfolkert.net PGP key 1024D/B524687C 2003-08-05 Fingerprint: E1D3 E3D7 5850 957E FED0 2B3A ED66 6971 B524 687C "If the only prayer you ever say in your entire life is thank you, it will be enough." -- Meister Eckhart -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From brousch at gmail.com Thu Nov 14 11:59:01 2013 From: brousch at gmail.com (Ben Rousch) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 11:59:01 -0500 Subject: [GRLUG] Is this a Linux User group Mailing List? In-Reply-To: <1384448184.1070.29.camel@omg.gregfolkert.net> References: <1384448184.1070.29.camel@omg.gregfolkert.net> Message-ID: Everyone knows the TARDIS runs Debian. On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Greg Folkert wrote: > I'm wondering, if this is a Linux User Group's Mailing list? > > By all rights and intents, I thought it was one. > > I mean, he I am posting about Dr. Who... and then I'm still seeing > Windows issues being posted on this list. > > I guess I'll just stop. > -- > greg at gregfolkert.net > PGP key 1024D/B524687C 2003-08-05 > Fingerprint: E1D3 E3D7 5850 957E FED0 2B3A ED66 6971 B524 687C > "If the only prayer you ever say in your entire life is thank you, it > will be enough." > -- Meister Eckhart > > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > -- Ben Rousch brousch at gmail.com http://clusterbleep.net/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Ben Rousch wrote: > Everyone knows the TARDIS runs Debian. > > > On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Greg Folkert wrote: >> >> I'm wondering, if this is a Linux User Group's Mailing list? >> >> By all rights and intents, I thought it was one. >> >> I mean, he I am posting about Dr. Who... and then I'm still seeing >> Windows issues being posted on this list. >> >> I guess I'll just stop. >> -- >> greg at gregfolkert.net >> PGP key 1024D/B524687C 2003-08-05 >> Fingerprint: E1D3 E3D7 5850 957E FED0 2B3A ED66 6971 B524 687C >> "If the only prayer you ever say in your entire life is thank you, it >> will be enough." >> -- Meister Eckhart >> >> _______________________________________________ >> grlug mailing list >> grlug at grlug.org >> http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > > > > > -- > Ben Rousch > brousch at gmail.com > http://clusterbleep.net/ > > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug From jtr at jrichards.org Thu Nov 14 12:25:43 2013 From: jtr at jrichards.org (John-Thomas Richards) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 12:25:43 -0500 Subject: [GRLUG] Is this a Linux User group Mailing List? In-Reply-To: <1384448184.1070.29.camel@omg.gregfolkert.net> References: <1384448184.1070.29.camel@omg.gregfolkert.net> Message-ID: <20131114172542.GD7060@rondo.celtics> On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 11:56:24AM -0500, Greg Folkert wrote: > I'm wondering, if this is a Linux User Group's Mailing list? I've been a subscriber for more than a dozen years. It has always been a LUG mailing list + other stuff. In recent years the amount of Linux-related discussion has waned as the list has become less of a technical support medium and more of a discussion list. This may be due to the improvements in Linux in general (hardware support, etc.) or it may be due to google-fu on the part of subscribers, but it has never been a technical-only list. > By all rights and intents, I thought it was one. > > I mean, he I am posting about Dr. Who... and then I'm still seeing > Windows issues being posted on this list. > > I guess I'll just stop. Stop posting Dr. Who stuff or stop subscribing? -- john-thomas ------ If what you are getting online is for free, you are not the customer, you are the product. Jonathan Zittrain, professor of Internet law (b. 1969) From don.ellis at gmail.com Thu Nov 14 12:50:01 2013 From: don.ellis at gmail.com (Don Ellis) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 11:50:01 -0600 Subject: [GRLUG] Is this a Linux User group Mailing List? In-Reply-To: <20131114172542.GD7060@rondo.celtics> References: <1384448184.1070.29.camel@omg.gregfolkert.net> <20131114172542.GD7060@rondo.celtics> Message-ID: Sorry, I don't understand the problem. At the Unix UG meeting last night, we discussed the Dr Who showing, even though we were at a special venue, and everyone seemed interested in the subject. Also mentioned the upcoming futbol game in Busch Stadium (a baseball stadium for you out-of-towners) between Bosnia and Argentina. 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In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1384454628.2872.3.camel@workstation.wmmi.net> On Thu, 2013-11-14 at 09:51 -0600, L. V. Lammert wrote: > Trying to get Citrix "Receiver" running on a 64-bit platform, .. I was > surprised to see a bunch of DLLs, and at least two unresolved > dependencies! > The "Citrix Receiver" will launch, but it fails at "create an account" on > the Server. Problem is, there is no way to tell what executable is > running, so I don't know if the problem is another unresolved dependencyy, > or something else. Enable filesystem auditing and you can watch everything happen. Procmon, or System Tools, or whatever it is called this week also had/has tools for watching filesystem activity on an object level. > The error message says to "Cancel" creating an account and proceed to the > connection, but at that point it dies. Is there a different execurable for > the "Receiver" that should run after creating an account fails? No clue, that is all proprietary rigging. You need to spy on the system to see what it is doing. > Unfortunately, I can see no way to identify the executable(s) involved to > check for unresolved dependencies, .. Filesystem auditing. From awilliam at whitemice.org Thu Nov 14 13:52:05 2013 From: awilliam at whitemice.org (Adam Tauno Williams) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 13:52:05 -0500 Subject: [GRLUG] fstab query In-Reply-To: <1384279028.12676.15.camel@ericscomputer.cyberacc.com> References: <1384279028.12676.15.camel@ericscomputer.cyberacc.com> Message-ID: <1384455125.2872.8.camel@workstation.wmmi.net> On Tue, 2013-11-12 at 12:57 -0500, Eric Beversluis wrote: > We are trying to insert a line into fstab on a ClearOS (based on CentOS) > server to mount an ioSafe on reboot. Something doesn't seem to be > working right. The first time we rebooted after inserting the line (see > below) into fstab, it crashed. We removed the line from fstab and > manually mounted the ioSafe. Another time we tried again; this time it > seemed to boot ok but the ioSafe did not mount. > > Are we going about this right? > We formated the ioSafe this way (retaining the GPT partition table): > Num Start End Size File sys Name Flags > 1 17.4kB 134MB 134MB Microsoft reserved partition msftres > 2 135MB 4001GB 4001GB ext4 Basic data partition > > (Research seemed to suggest it best to leave the MS reserved partition.) > > The fstab line we entered was this: > UUID=dd06173e-9fb2-47f8-8841-5ed96e4d4ee4 /mnt/ioSafe ext4 > defaults,nofail 0 0 > (The first time we set the value to 2.) Mounting USB devices at boot time is a dicey business; the USB bus may not be initialized, or at least not settled, when booting gets around to mounting filesystem. Sp sometimes it may work and other times it will not. One trick is to create the fstab with ""noauto", then you can still mount it with "mount" but it will not be mounted at boot time. Then just put the mount in the service start-up of whatever requires the drive to be attached. Or use automount to control the mounting of the device. > It has been suggested that the reason this fstab entry doesn't work is > that the first partition does not have the ext4 file system. From megadave at gmail.com Thu Nov 14 14:40:13 2013 From: megadave at gmail.com (Dave Chiodo) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 14:40:13 -0500 Subject: [GRLUG] Is this a Linux User group Mailing List? In-Reply-To: <1384454406.2872.0.camel@workstation.wmmi.net> References: <1384448184.1070.29.camel@omg.gregfolkert.net> <1384454406.2872.0.camel@workstation.wmmi.net> Message-ID: Daleks run Windows, silly. They ENJOY pain and suffering. On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > On Thu, 2013-11-14 at 12:13 -0500, Dave Chiodo wrote: >> There was even a Gallifrey LUG up until.. well.. you know.. > > Until a Dalek installed Ubuntu and the entire race sought revenge on his > behalf? > > > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug From parsleyfirefly at gmail.com Thu Nov 14 15:06:53 2013 From: parsleyfirefly at gmail.com (Dagny Mol) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 15:06:53 -0500 Subject: [GRLUG] Is this a Linux User group Mailing List? In-Reply-To: References: <1384448184.1070.29.camel@omg.gregfolkert.net> Message-ID: Debian is too stable. The TARDIS is clearly Gentoo. On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Ben Rousch wrote: > Everyone knows the TARDIS runs Debian. > > > On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Greg Folkert wrote: > >> I'm wondering, if this is a Linux User Group's Mailing list? >> >> By all rights and intents, I thought it was one. >> >> I mean, he I am posting about Dr. Who... and then I'm still seeing >> Windows issues being posted on this list. >> >> I guess I'll just stop. >> -- >> greg at gregfolkert.net >> PGP key 1024D/B524687C 2003-08-05 >> Fingerprint: E1D3 E3D7 5850 957E FED0 2B3A ED66 6971 B524 687C >> "If the only prayer you ever say in your entire life is thank you, it >> will be enough." >> -- Meister Eckhart >> >> _______________________________________________ >> grlug mailing list >> grlug at grlug.org >> http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug >> > > > > -- > Ben Rousch > brousch at gmail.com > http://clusterbleep.net/ > > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From topher at codeventure.net Mon Nov 18 15:45:14 2013 From: topher at codeventure.net (Topher) Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2013 15:45:14 -0500 Subject: [GRLUG] web cam Message-ID: <528A7C5A.7070907@codeventure.net> A while back I think I asked this list for an opinion about a nice simple USB web cam that'll work in Linux. I'm thinking <$50. I can't find the responses though, so I'm asking again. Opinions? From leapole at gmail.com Mon Nov 18 17:37:29 2013 From: leapole at gmail.com (Josh) Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2013 14:37:29 -0800 Subject: [GRLUG] web cam In-Reply-To: <528A7C5A.7070907@codeventure.net> References: <528A7C5A.7070907@codeventure.net> Message-ID: <66DB4806-5362-4A37-8D11-EE13BEA8A1EF@gmail.com> The photo booth is running some Logitech cam. I think Casey paid 80 bucks and it was pretty nice > On Nov 18, 2013, at 12:45 PM, Topher wrote: > > A while back I think I asked this list for an opinion about a nice > simple USB web cam that'll work in Linux. I'm thinking <$50. I can't > find the responses though, so I'm asking again. > > Opinions? > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug From topher at codeventure.net Mon Nov 18 17:40:02 2013 From: topher at codeventure.net (Topher) Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2013 17:40:02 -0500 Subject: [GRLUG] web cam In-Reply-To: <66DB4806-5362-4A37-8D11-EE13BEA8A1EF@gmail.com> References: <528A7C5A.7070907@codeventure.net> <66DB4806-5362-4A37-8D11-EE13BEA8A1EF@gmail.com> Message-ID: <528A9742.20302@codeventure.net> On 11/18/2013 05:37 PM, Josh wrote: > The photo booth is running some Logitech cam. I think Casey paid 80 bucks and it was pretty nice > >> On Nov 18, 2013, at 12:45 PM, Topher wrote: >> >> A while back I think I asked this list for an opinion about a nice >> simple USB web cam that'll work in Linux. I'm thinking <$50. I can't >> find the responses though, so I'm asking again. >> >> Opinions? >> _______________________________________________ >> grlug mailing list >> grlug at grlug.org >> http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug Thanks, I think I'm going to get the Logitech c270. This review makes it sound pretty good: http://www.goodbyemicrosoft.net/news.php?item.674.2 From greg at gregfolkert.net Mon Nov 18 20:09:14 2013 From: greg at gregfolkert.net (Greg Folkert) Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2013 20:09:14 -0500 Subject: [GRLUG] web cam In-Reply-To: <528A9742.20302@codeventure.net> References: <528A7C5A.7070907@codeventure.net> <66DB4806-5362-4A37-8D11-EE13BEA8A1EF@gmail.com> <528A9742.20302@codeventure.net> Message-ID: <1384823354.6770.2.camel@omg.gregfolkert.net> On Mon, 2013-11-18 at 17:40 -0500, Topher wrote: > On 11/18/2013 05:37 PM, Josh wrote: > >> On Nov 18, 2013, at 12:45 PM, Topher wrote: > >> > >> A while back I think I asked this list for an opinion about a nice > >> simple USB web cam that'll work in Linux. I'm thinking <$50. I can't > >> find the responses though, so I'm asking again. > >> > >> Opinions? > The photo booth is running some Logitech cam. I think Casey paid 80 > bucks and it was pretty nice > > Thanks, I think I'm going to get the Logitech c270. This review makes > it sound pretty good: http://www.goodbyemicrosoft.net/news.php?item.674.2 I'm using that exact camera. It works well with Hackintosh, Macintosh, WindowsXP-Windows7 and best of all, full support under Linux. All features seems to work just fine... -- greg at gregfolkert.net PGP key 1024D/B524687C 2003-08-05 Fingerprint: E1D3 E3D7 5850 957E FED0 2B3A ED66 6971 B524 687C "Habit is a cable; we weave a thread of it each day, and at last we cannot break it." -- Horace Mann -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From greg at gregfolkert.net Tue Nov 19 16:21:20 2013 From: greg at gregfolkert.net (Greg Folkert) Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2013 16:21:20 -0500 Subject: [GRLUG] Just because I'm following a trend here... Message-ID: <1384896080.6770.8.camel@omg.gregfolkert.net> And breakin' all the rules: I find this pretty stinking awesome: Blade Runner - The Aquarelle Edition http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLwmlMezS3U -- greg at gregfolkert.net PGP key 1024D/B524687C 2003-08-05 Fingerprint: E1D3 E3D7 5850 957E FED0 2B3A ED66 6971 B524 687C "Our life is what our thoughts make it." -- Marcus Aurelius -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From jwm8351 at yahoo.com Tue Nov 19 23:42:23 2013 From: jwm8351 at yahoo.com (Joseph McLaughlin) Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2013 20:42:23 -0800 (PST) Subject: [GRLUG] Looking for 4 2TB drives that still work Message-ID: <1384922543.54030.YahooMailNeo@web122204.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> I am looking to build a raid for a dns-343 with 4 2TB drives of equal models. Anyone here looking to sell theirs for a discount. 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When I restarted it and chose the second listed kernel rather than the top one, it seemed to boot OK. Maybe the update was a new kernel version and that didn't install properly? If so, what's the procedure? Just try "Install Updates and Restart" again? Thanks. From jodanlime at gmail.com Thu Nov 21 00:45:57 2013 From: jodanlime at gmail.com (Jordan Hudson) Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 00:45:57 -0500 Subject: [GRLUG] fedora won't boot In-Reply-To: <1385004511.528d7ddf2ca4d@webmail.researchintegration.org> References: <1385004511.528d7ddf2ca4d@webmail.researchintegration.org> Message-ID: I'm sure there is somebody more qualified to assist than me, but I'll try to help. The fact that you can still use the fallback kernel is a good sign, and I would try to update again, or probably try to roll back the kernel to the previous one until the next update is available. If that is not the problem then look into what else was installed in the update. This site http://www.techrepublic.com/article/solutionbase-steps-to-take-to-fix-linux-when-it-wont-start/has some ideas to go off from. The fedora forums are a good place to start as well, maybe there is an announcement. Other than that its been too long since I've used a red hat distro, stopped distro hopping when I found arch :) Anyways, good luck, keep us updated. On Nov 20, 2013 10:29 PM, wrote: > I chose "install updates and restart" but now fedora 19 won't boot all the > way. > It hung about half way through filling out the little fedora circly thing. > When > I restarted it it seemed to go ok for a while and then hung after showing a > bunch of lines on the screen. The last two were > > [ 7.510831 ] [] ? rest_init+0x80/0x80 > [ 7.510902 ] ---[ end trace e37f0330f34b0303 ] --- > > Does anyone know what may have happened and what I need to do? I tried > restarting it once more and got the same result, with slightly different > numbers ( 2.490... and a different end trace number). > > When I restarted it and chose the second listed kernel rather than the top > one, > it seemed to boot OK. Maybe the update was a new kernel version and that > didn't > install properly? If so, what's the procedure? Just try "Install Updates > and > Restart" again? > > Thanks. > > > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ebever at researchintegration.org Thu Nov 21 10:43:16 2013 From: ebever at researchintegration.org (Eric Beversluis) Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 10:43:16 -0500 Subject: [GRLUG] fedora won't boot In-Reply-To: References: <1385004511.528d7ddf2ca4d@webmail.researchintegration.org> Message-ID: <1385048596.1902.0.camel@ericscomputer> I was able to use 'yum erase' to get rid of the faulty new kernel and then Software Update ran successfully and I'm in the new kernel now. Thanks. On Thu, 2013-11-21 at 00:45 -0500, Jordan Hudson wrote: > I'm sure there is somebody more qualified to assist than me, but I'll > try to help. The fact that you can still use the fallback kernel is a > good sign, and I would try to update again, or probably try to roll > back the kernel to the previous one until the next update is > available. If that is not the problem then look into what else was > installed in the update. This site > http://www.techrepublic.com/article/solutionbase-steps-to-take-to-fix-linux-when-it-wont-start/ has some ideas to go off from. The fedora forums are a good place to start as well, maybe there is an announcement. Other than that its been too long since I've used a red hat distro, stopped distro hopping when I found arch :) > > Anyways, good luck, keep us updated. > > On Nov 20, 2013 10:29 PM, wrote: > I chose "install updates and restart" but now fedora 19 won't > boot all the way. > It hung about half way through filling out the little fedora > circly thing. When > I restarted it it seemed to go ok for a while and then hung > after showing a > bunch of lines on the screen. The last two were > > [ 7.510831 ] [] ? rest_init+0x80/0x80 > [ 7.510902 ] ---[ end trace e37f0330f34b0303 ] --- > > Does anyone know what may have happened and what I need to do? > I tried > restarting it once more and got the same result, with slightly > different > numbers ( 2.490... and a different end trace number). > > When I restarted it and chose the second listed kernel rather > than the top one, > it seemed to boot OK. Maybe the update was a new kernel > version and that didn't > install properly? If so, what's the procedure? Just try > "Install Updates and > Restart" again? > > Thanks. > > > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug From ebever at researchintegration.org Fri Nov 22 12:28:51 2013 From: ebever at researchintegration.org (Eric Beversluis) Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2013 12:28:51 -0500 Subject: [GRLUG] question re teminal freezing Message-ID: <1385141331.12760.4.camel@ericscomputer.lan> When I'm connected to a computer via ssh from my terminal (in Fedora 19), if I'm not active for a while the terminal seems to freeze up and become unresponsive. All I can do is shut the terminal--and then I get a warning that there is a process still running (the ssh connection?). Is this expected behavior from the terminal? Is there some workaround so I don't lose all the results that are in the existing terminal (other than leaving it open while I work from a different terminal)? Thanks. EB From leapole at gmail.com Fri Nov 22 14:30:12 2013 From: leapole at gmail.com (Josh) Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2013 11:30:12 -0800 Subject: [GRLUG] question re teminal freezing In-Reply-To: <1385141331.12760.4.camel@ericscomputer.lan> References: <1385141331.12760.4.camel@ericscomputer.lan> Message-ID: <3B391915-CECB-4A72-88A2-7A5FEC919329@gmail.com> You should hit enter then Ctrl ~. That should end the tunnel and put you at local prompt. > On Nov 22, 2013, at 9:28 AM, Eric Beversluis wrote: > > When I'm connected to a computer via ssh from my terminal (in Fedora > 19), if I'm not active for a while the terminal seems to freeze up and > become unresponsive. All I can do is shut the terminal--and then I get a > warning that there is a process still running (the ssh connection?). > > Is this expected behavior from the terminal? Is there some workaround so > I don't lose all the results that are in the existing terminal (other > than leaving it open while I work from a different terminal)? > > Thanks. > EB > > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug From greg at gregfolkert.net Fri Nov 22 15:23:52 2013 From: greg at gregfolkert.net (Greg Folkert) Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2013 15:23:52 -0500 Subject: [GRLUG] question re terminal freezing In-Reply-To: <1385141331.12760.4.camel@ericscomputer.lan> References: <1385141331.12760.4.camel@ericscomputer.lan> Message-ID: <1385151832.6770.29.camel@omg.gregfolkert.net> On Fri, 2013-11-22 at 12:28 -0500, Eric Beversluis wrote: > When I'm connected to a computer via ssh from my terminal (in Fedora > 19), if I'm not active for a while the terminal seems to freeze up and > become unresponsive. All I can do is shut the terminal--and then I get a > warning that there is a process still running (the ssh connection?). > > Is this expected behavior from the terminal? Is there some workaround so > I don't lose all the results that are in the existing terminal (other > than leaving it open while I work from a different terminal)? If this is "outside" your local network or you are using a consumer classed "router" to connect to locally. You are experiencing "session timeout". Typically, 300 seconds is the session timeout. I add this to my /etc/ssh/ssh_config: ServerAliveInterval 270 This then makes you ssh client "ping" the server every 270 seconds. This doesn't hurt the server in any way, but does keep you session alive through you consumer grade router/firewall. PCI Compliance doesn't like the "server version" of this in an SSHD_CONFIG, but you can put in /etc/ssh/sshd_config: ClientAliveInterval 270 This does the same thing, but forces the Server to try and keep your session alive. If you need more info on this, I suggest you go get the O'Reilly book on SSH. SSH, The Secure Shell: The Definitive Guide, 2nd Edition That will help you a lot. It is a few years old, but in all reality, SSH hasn't changed much. I've got it and it has really helped me finger out things much better with integration with SSH. Plus it is a nice reference for things rather than "man ssh" or "man ssh_config" or "man sshd_config" Cheers. -- greg at gregfolkert.net PGP key 1024D/B524687C 2003-08-05 Fingerprint: E1D3 E3D7 5850 957E FED0 2B3A ED66 6971 B524 687C "We make a living by what we get, but we make a life by what we give." -- Winston Churchill -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Is there some workaround so > > I don't lose all the results that are in the existing terminal (other > > than leaving it open while I work from a different terminal)? > If this is "outside" your local network or you are using a consumer > classed "router" to connect to locally. You are experiencing "session > timeout". +1 > Typically, 300 seconds is the session timeout. Or an `idle` connection is being kicked from a NAT table in between hither and thither. More and more common as people continue to refuse to use IPv6 and the sick disgusting disease that is NAT becomes more an more prevalent. > I add this to my /etc/ssh/ssh_config: > ServerAliveInterval 270 > This then makes you ssh client "ping" the server every 270 seconds. This > doesn't hurt the server in any way, but does keep you session alive > through you consumer grade router/firewall. +1 > PCI Compliance doesn't like the "server version" of this in an > SSHD_CONFIG, but you can put in /etc/ssh/sshd_config: > ClientAliveInterval 270 > This does the same thing, but forces the Server to try and keep your > session alive. The server version is nicer as you do not have to remember to do it on all your clients; and your client will not try to do ping with a server that does not enjoy it. > If you need more info on this, I suggest you go get the O'Reilly book on > SSH. > SSH, The Secure Shell: The Definitive Guide, 2nd Edition > That will help you a lot. It is a few years old, but in all reality, SSH > hasn't changed much. I've got it and it has really helped me finger out > things much better with integration with SSH. Plus it is a nice > reference for things rather than "man ssh" or "man ssh_config" or "man > sshd_config" Or, in a lazy case, run top or something that constantly changes on the 'idle' terminal. That will keep the session alive, at least against traffic related timeouts like the disgusting disease that is NAT. -- Adam Tauno Williams GPG D95ED383 Systems Administrator, Python Developer, LPI / NCLA -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 836 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From eyagerlist at eyager.net Sun Nov 24 15:00:13 2013 From: eyagerlist at eyager.net (Eric Yagerlener) Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2013 15:00:13 -0500 Subject: [GRLUG] Comcast dual stack IPV6 spotted in Muskegon Message-ID: FYI. Comcast dual stack IPV6 is now live in Muskegon. Maybe it's live in GR as well. I've tried it and it works, but they've already changed the IPV6 subnet prefix on me without warning. Lease times are supposed to be good for a week. You'll need a DOCSIS 3.0 modem a router that supports both IPV6 and DHCPV6-PD for it to work with Comcast. DD-WRT does not unless you already have a version that supports IPV6 and hack in some packages from OpenWRT to provide a dhcp client for IPV6. DD-WRT does not support ip6tables at all. If your modem/router does support IPV6 and IPV6 is on by default you may have already IPV6 and not know it. Check your firewall configuration, your default policy may be accept, not drop on IPV6! ---- Eric From knightperson at zuzax.com Sun Nov 24 15:34:49 2013 From: knightperson at zuzax.com (Mike Williams) Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2013 15:34:49 -0500 Subject: [GRLUG] Comcast dual stack IPV6 spotted in Muskegon Message-ID: What's a PD in this context? Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device -------- Original message -------- From: Eric Yagerlener Date: 11/24/2013 3:00 PM (GMT-05:00) To: grlug at grlug.org Subject: [GRLUG] Comcast dual stack IPV6 spotted in Muskegon FYI.? Comcast dual stack IPV6 is now live in Muskegon.? Maybe it's live in GR as well. I've tried it and it works, but they've already changed the IPV6 subnet prefix on me without warning.?? Lease times are supposed to be good for a week. You'll need a DOCSIS 3.0 modem a router that supports both IPV6 and DHCPV6-PD for it to work with Comcast. DD-WRT does not unless you already have a version that supports IPV6 and hack in some packages from OpenWRT to provide a dhcp client for IPV6.? DD-WRT does not support ip6tables at all. If your modem/router does support IPV6 and IPV6 is on by default you may have already IPV6 and not know it.?? Check your firewall configuration, your default policy may be accept, not drop on IPV6! ---- Eric _______________________________________________ grlug mailing list grlug at grlug.org http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From greg at gregfolkert.net Sun Nov 24 15:43:05 2013 From: greg at gregfolkert.net (Greg Folkert) Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2013 15:43:05 -0500 Subject: [GRLUG] Comcast dual stack IPV6 spotted in Muskegon In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1385325785.6770.35.camel@omg.gregfolkert.net> IPV6 Prefix Delegation. On Sun, 2013-11-24 at 15:34 -0500, Mike Williams wrote: > DHCPV6-PD -- greg at gregfolkert.net PGP key 1024D/B524687C 2003-08-05 Fingerprint: E1D3 E3D7 5850 957E FED0 2B3A ED66 6971 B524 687C "A good laugh is sunshine in the house." -- William Makepeace Thackeray -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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DD-WRT does not > support ip6tables at all. > > If your modem/router does support IPV6 and IPV6 is on by default you > may have already IPV6 and not know it. Check your firewall > configuration, your default policy may be accept, not drop on IPV6! > > ---- > Eric > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From awilliam at whitemice.org Sun Nov 24 20:54:58 2013 From: awilliam at whitemice.org (Adam Tauno Williams) Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2013 20:54:58 -0500 Subject: [GRLUG] Comcast dual stack IPV6 spotted in Muskegon In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1385344498.2482.8.camel@linux-86wr.site> On Sun, 2013-11-24 at 15:34 -0500, Mike Williams wrote: > What's a PD in this context? Prefix Delegation It has to do with setting the IPv6 [sort of] equivalent of the subnet mask for the router's LAN. For whatever reason DHCP is one area where IPv6 is really hacked up [IMHO]. They had the opportunity to redesign/fix auto-discovery & assignment but made a total hatchet job out of it. So you have the elegant Router Announcement scheme but end up having to use DHCP with a bunch of extensions all over again. IPv6 is simply a *better* protocol than IPv4, and strips away decades of accumulated hacks. But the DHCP... ugh, it is as sucky as IPv4. In its defense IPv6 is intended to support a *much* larger network than IPv4, so some of this is inevitable - but why you need DHCP on top of RA and autoconfig. I dunno, it feels kludgy. Why can't additional attributes just be encoded in the RA for a specific interface... ? Perhaps the need for the upper tier router to retain a state/assignment is the reason? > You'll need a DOCSIS 3.0 modem a router that supports both IPV6 and > DHCPV6-PD for it to work with Comcast. DD-WRT does not unless you > already have a version that supports IPV6 and hack in some packages > from OpenWRT to provide a dhcp client for IPV6. DD-WRT does not > support ip6tables at all. -- Adam Tauno Williams GPG D95ED383 Systems Administrator, Python Developer, LPI / NCLA From eyagerlist at eyager.net Mon Nov 25 06:36:24 2013 From: eyagerlist at eyager.net (Eric Yagerlener) Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 06:36:24 -0500 Subject: [GRLUG] Comcast dual stack IPV6 spotted in Muskegon In-Reply-To: <1385344498.2482.8.camel@linux-86wr.site> References: <1385344498.2482.8.camel@linux-86wr.site> Message-ID: I'd have to agree with your assessment. I've ran IPV6 with he.net tunnelbroker for years and after 24 hours of playing with Comcast's native IPV6, the kludgyness of Comcast's DHCPv6 is readily apparent. Comcast's implementation isn't really respecting the promised lifetime of the prefix it is handing out. Should your cable modem reset for any reason, ie a T4 timeout, it appears the lease will be silently cancelled by the CMTS and the DHCPv6 client will be none the wiser and the IPV6 connection will be dead. There are tons of complaints and bug reports out there about Comcast's IPV6 prefix delegations failing to renew when it naturally expires or whenever the modem resets causing IPV6 to drop. If I get the time, I'll have to get a linux box with 2 NICS and do the debugging on why comcast's prefixes delegations get terminated early. In the meantime, it's back to IPV4 and tunnelbroker. At least with tunnelbroker your IPV6 prefix is set in stone, with Comcast, it will change on a whim. I thought the reasoning behind IPV6 is that addresses won't by scarce. I don't quite understand why Comcast isn't using the same sticky persistence as they are when handing out V4 addresses. On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 8:54 PM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > On Sun, 2013-11-24 at 15:34 -0500, Mike Williams wrote: >> What's a PD in this context? > > Prefix Delegation > > It has to do with setting the IPv6 [sort of] equivalent of the subnet > mask for the router's LAN. > > For whatever reason DHCP is one area where IPv6 is really hacked up > [IMHO]. They had the opportunity to redesign/fix auto-discovery & > assignment but made a total hatchet job out of it. So you have the > elegant Router Announcement scheme but end up having to use DHCP with a > bunch of extensions all over again. > > IPv6 is simply a *better* protocol than IPv4, and strips away decades of > accumulated hacks. But the DHCP... ugh, it is as sucky as IPv4. > > In its defense IPv6 is intended to support a *much* larger network than > IPv4, so some of this is inevitable - but why you need DHCP on top of RA > and autoconfig. I dunno, it feels kludgy. Why can't additional > attributes just be encoded in the RA for a specific interface... ? > Perhaps the need for the upper tier router to retain a state/assignment > is the reason? > >> You'll need a DOCSIS 3.0 modem a router that supports both IPV6 and >> DHCPV6-PD for it to work with Comcast. DD-WRT does not unless you >> already have a version that supports IPV6 and hack in some packages >> from OpenWRT to provide a dhcp client for IPV6. DD-WRT does not >> support ip6tables at all. > > -- > Adam Tauno Williams GPG D95ED383 > Systems Administrator, Python Developer, LPI / NCLA > > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug From awilliam at whitemice.org Mon Nov 25 12:50:49 2013 From: awilliam at whitemice.org (Adam Tauno Williams) Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 12:50:49 -0500 Subject: [GRLUG] Comcast dual stack IPV6 spotted in Muskegon In-Reply-To: References: <1385344498.2482.8.camel@linux-86wr.site> Message-ID: <1385401849.1925.2.camel@linux-vojw.site> On Mon, 2013-11-25 at 06:36 -0500, Eric Yagerlener wrote: > If I get the time, I'll have to get a linux box with 2 NICS and do the > debugging on why comcast's prefixes delegations get terminated early. > In the meantime, it's back to IPV4 and tunnelbroker. At least with > tunnelbroker your IPV6 prefix is set in stone, with Comcast, it will > change on a whim. I thought the reasoning behind IPV6 is that > addresses won't by scarce. +1 "I thought the reasoning behind IPV6 is that addresses won't by scarce. " Why not just give every customer a static delegation for the duration of their contract? There is plenty of space. The way ISPs are going about it either just kludgey or for some reason deliberately sort-of broken. From michael.leahy1 at comcast.net Mon Nov 25 14:18:47 2013 From: michael.leahy1 at comcast.net (Michael Leahy) Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 14:18:47 -0500 Subject: [GRLUG] Comcast dual stack IPV6 spotted in Muskegon In-Reply-To: <1385401849.1925.2.camel@linux-vojw.site> References: <1385344498.2482.8.camel@linux-86wr.site> <1385401849.1925.2.camel@linux-vojw.site> Message-ID: <49E39CAF-93ED-48E2-B3D2-4967A920E10A@comcast.net> Giving everyone a static IPv6 address would make sense, but that would destroy the motivation to pay extra to get a static IP address. Since everyone with a static address wants to run a server, right? And with IPv6, the only people using it are the people who know how to run servers?. --Michael On Nov 25, 2013, at 12:50 PM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > On Mon, 2013-11-25 at 06:36 -0500, Eric Yagerlener wrote: >> If I get the time, I'll have to get a linux box with 2 NICS and do the >> debugging on why comcast's prefixes delegations get terminated early. >> In the meantime, it's back to IPV4 and tunnelbroker. At least with >> tunnelbroker your IPV6 prefix is set in stone, with Comcast, it will >> change on a whim. I thought the reasoning behind IPV6 is that >> addresses won't by scarce. > > +1 "I thought the reasoning behind IPV6 is that addresses won't by > scarce. " > > Why not just give every customer a static delegation for the duration of > their contract? There is plenty of space. The way ISPs are going about > it either just kludgey or for some reason deliberately sort-of broken. > > > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug From ebever at researchintegration.org Fri Nov 29 18:39:13 2013 From: ebever at researchintegration.org (Eric Beversluis) Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2013 18:39:13 -0500 Subject: [GRLUG] query re service --status-all Message-ID: <1385768353.17572.4.camel@ericscomputer> I'm running 'service --status-all'. This doesn't look like the kind of result I should get, based on what I've seen online. Where are 'httpd', 'mysqld' and the many other services that surely are running? 'ebtables' isn't a process running on my computer. =========== [root at ericscomputer eric]# service --status-all /etc/init.d/ebtables: line 19: [: =: unary operator expected # Generated by ebtables-save v1.0 on Fri Nov 29 18:28:59 EST 2013 *nat :PREROUTING ACCEPT :OUTPUT ACCEPT :POSTROUTING ACCEPT *broute :BROUTING ACCEPT *filter :INPUT ACCEPT :FORWARD ACCEPT :OUTPUT ACCEPT No open transaction netconsole module not loaded Configured devices: lo Auto_Amped_Rep_2.4GHz Auto_CyberAccess_Ober_Wi-Fi_Network Auto_Paragraph Auto_UNITE-D9CD Auto_Yours_Truly_Public_Wireless UNITE-D9CD-GUEST applelane enp1s0 Currently active devices: lo p6p1 ========== Thanks. From awilliam at whitemice.org Fri Nov 29 20:48:29 2013 From: awilliam at whitemice.org (Adam Tauno Williams) Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2013 20:48:29 -0500 Subject: [GRLUG] query re service --status-all In-Reply-To: <1385768353.17572.4.camel@ericscomputer> References: <1385768353.17572.4.camel@ericscomputer> Message-ID: <1385776109.5293.2.camel@linux-vojw.site> On Fri, 2013-11-29 at 18:39 -0500, Eric Beversluis wrote: > I'm running 'service --status-all'. This doesn't look like the kind of > result I should get, based on what I've seen online. Where are 'httpd', > 'mysqld' and the many other services that surely are running? 'ebtables' > isn't a process running on my computer. ebtables is not a process, it is Ethernet Bridging. Are you bridging with this box? What is the package that owns that script? rpm -qf /etc/init.d/ebtables If you are not using bridging I'd see if I could remove the package. It is very odd to have such a syntax error in the service script. Someone must have at least played with bridging at some point or I don't think the file would have been generated. > =========== > [root at ericscomputer eric]# service --status-all > /etc/init.d/ebtables: line 19: [: =: unary operator expected > # Generated by ebtables-save v1.0 on Fri Nov 29 18:28:59 EST 2013 > *nat > :PREROUTING ACCEPT > :OUTPUT ACCEPT > :POSTROUTING ACCEPT > > *broute > :BROUTING ACCEPT > > *filter > :INPUT ACCEPT > :FORWARD ACCEPT > :OUTPUT ACCEPT > > No open transaction > netconsole module not loaded > Configured devices: > lo Auto_Amped_Rep_2.4GHz Auto_CyberAccess_Ober_Wi-Fi_Network > Auto_Paragraph Auto_UNITE-D9CD Auto_Yours_Truly_Public_Wireless > UNITE-D9CD-GUEST applelane enp1s0 > Currently active devices: > lo p6p1 > ========== From ebever at researchintegration.org Fri Nov 29 22:21:06 2013 From: ebever at researchintegration.org (Eric Beversluis) Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2013 22:21:06 -0500 Subject: [GRLUG] query re service --status-all In-Reply-To: <1385776109.5293.2.camel@linux-vojw.site> References: <1385768353.17572.4.camel@ericscomputer> <1385776109.5293.2.camel@linux-vojw.site> Message-ID: <1385781666.17572.23.camel@ericscomputer> On Fri, 2013-11-29 at 20:48 -0500, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > On Fri, 2013-11-29 at 18:39 -0500, Eric Beversluis wrote: > > I'm running 'service --status-all'. This doesn't look like the kind of > > result I should get, based on what I've seen online. Where are 'httpd', > > 'mysqld' and the many other services that surely are running? 'ebtables' > > isn't a process running on my computer. > > ebtables is not a process, it is Ethernet Bridging. Are you bridging > with this box? > > What is the package that owns that script? > > rpm -qf /etc/init.d/ebtables > > If you are not using bridging I'd see if I could remove the package. > > It is very odd to have such a syntax error in the service script. > Someone must have at least played with bridging at some point or I don't > think the file would have been generated. Package is ebtables-2.0.10-8.fc19.x86_64. rpm -e ebtables-2.0.10-8.fc19.x86_64 => error: Failed dependencies: ebtables is needed by (installed) firewalld-0.3.8-1.fc19.noarch ebtables is needed by (installed) libvirt-daemon-1.0.5.7-2.fc19.x86_64 No one has used the computer but me and the installation is only a month or so old. Can bridging happen unintentionally? Is this the syntax error statement? > > /etc/init.d/ebtables: line 19: [: =: unary operator expected Is that what's keeping 'service --status-all' from running properly? Should I do rpm --replacepkgs? > > > =========== > > [root at ericscomputer eric]# service --status-all > > /etc/init.d/ebtables: line 19: [: =: unary operator expected > > # Generated by ebtables-save v1.0 on Fri Nov 29 18:28:59 EST 2013 > > *nat > > :PREROUTING ACCEPT > > :OUTPUT ACCEPT > > :POSTROUTING ACCEPT > > > > *broute > > :BROUTING ACCEPT > > > > *filter > > :INPUT ACCEPT > > :FORWARD ACCEPT > > :OUTPUT ACCEPT > > > > No open transaction > > netconsole module not loaded > > Configured devices: > > lo Auto_Amped_Rep_2.4GHz Auto_CyberAccess_Ober_Wi-Fi_Network > > Auto_Paragraph Auto_UNITE-D9CD Auto_Yours_Truly_Public_Wireless > > UNITE-D9CD-GUEST applelane enp1s0 > > Currently active devices: > > lo p6p1 > > ========== From binki at gentoo.org Sat Nov 30 00:19:32 2013 From: binki at gentoo.org (Nathan Phillip Brink) Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2013 05:19:32 +0000 Subject: [GRLUG] query re service --status-all In-Reply-To: <1385781666.17572.23.camel@ericscomputer> References: <1385768353.17572.4.camel@ericscomputer> <1385776109.5293.2.camel@linux-vojw.site> <1385781666.17572.23.camel@ericscomputer> Message-ID: <20131130051932.GI4115@ohnopublishing.net> On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 10:21:06PM -0500, Eric Beversluis wrote: > > On Fri, 2013-11-29 at 20:48 -0500, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > > On Fri, 2013-11-29 at 18:39 -0500, Eric Beversluis wrote: > > > I'm running 'service --status-all'. This doesn't look like the kind of > > > result I should get, based on what I've seen online. Where are 'httpd', > > > 'mysqld' and the many other services that surely are running? 'ebtables' > > > isn't a process running on my computer. > > > > ebtables is not a process, it is Ethernet Bridging. Are you bridging > > with this box? > > > > What is the package that owns that script? > > > > rpm -qf /etc/init.d/ebtables > > > > If you are not using bridging I'd see if I could remove the package. > > > > It is very odd to have such a syntax error in the service script. > > Someone must have at least played with bridging at some point or I don't > > think the file would have been generated. > Package is ebtables-2.0.10-8.fc19.x86_64. > > rpm -e ebtables-2.0.10-8.fc19.x86_64 => > error: Failed dependencies: > ebtables is needed by (installed) firewalld-0.3.8-1.fc19.noarch > ebtables is needed by (installed) libvirt-daemon-1.0.5.7-2.fc19.x86_64 > > No one has used the computer but me and the installation is only a month > or so old. Can bridging happen unintentionally? > > Is this the syntax error statement? > > > /etc/init.d/ebtables: line 19: [: =: unary operator expected This sort of error can be reproduced by the following: ohnobinki at gibby ~ $ if [ = x ]; then echo yes; else echo no; fi bash: [: =: unary operator expected no You most often would get this behavior if you have an underquoted variable expansion where the script?s author assumed that the expanded variable would be non-zero length. For example, the incorrect syntax: ohnobinki at gibby ~ $ if [ ${undefined_variable} = x ]; then echo yes; else echo no; fi bash: [: =: unary operator expected no And corrected syntax: ohnobinki at gibby ~ $ if [ "${undefined_variable}" = x ]; then echo yes; else echo no; fi no > Is that what's keeping 'service --status-all' from running properly? I have no idea, I don?t know what this ebtables script looks like nor how it?s supposed to work :-/. Depending on what exactly the script was trying to test, this underquoting may be what causes it to output? iptables-style rules(?) instead of its current status. Sorry that I can?t help with fedora, but maybe the sh syntax error explanation can be helpful. -- binki Look out for missing or extraneous apostrophes! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 836 bytes Desc: not available URL: