[GRLUG] So long.

Nathan Phillip Brink binki at gentoo.org
Mon May 13 00:14:47 EDT 2013


On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 10:20:19PM -0400, Michael Mol wrote:
> On 05/12/2013 06:10 PM, Godwin wrote:
> > Greets Bob, et. al.,
> > 
> > Sorry to see you go Bob (as I noticed the unsubscribe notification).  I
> > assure you I did/do not explicitly filter/moderate the list (other than
> > what default behavior Mailman applies).  Looking that the held message's
> > headers, it seems the list's email address was not explicitly listed,
> > but rather BCC'd.  See message header:
> > 
> > Return-Path: <bob.kline at gmail.com <mailto:bob.kline at gmail.com>>
> > X-Original-To: grlug at grlug.org <mailto:grlug at grlug.org>
> > Received: from grlug.org <http://grlug.org> ([127.0.0.1])
> > by localhost (maya.grlug.org <http://maya.grlug.org> [127.0.0.1])
> > (amavisd-new, port 10024)
> > with ESMTP id 9SLFsldUSVhH for <grlug at grlug.org <mailto:grlug at grlug.org>>;
> > Fri, 10 May 2013 15:51:07 -0400 (EDT)
> > Received-SPF: Pass (sender SPF authorized) identity=mailfrom;
> > client-ip=209.85.212.43; helo=mail-vb0-f43.google.com
> > <http://mail-vb0-f43.google.com>; envelope-from=bob.kline at gmail.com
> > <mailto:bob.kline at gmail.com>; receiver=grlug at grlug.org
> > <mailto:grlug at grlug.org> 
> > Received: by 10.52.171.194 with HTTP; Fri, 10 May 2013 12:46:54 -0700 (PDT)
> > Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 15:46:54 -0400
> > Message-ID:
> > <CAFOq4E+Xn_Pb7SWUnbieB_R-9-VTcu=Z7V7m8qrbHepYAsMW2w at mail.gmail.com
> > <mailto:Z7V7m8qrbHepYAsMW2w at mail.gmail.com>>
> > Subject: NOT LINUX: "Hollywood" tries again.
> > *From: Bob Kline <bob.kline at gmail.com <mailto:bob.kline at gmail.com>>*
> > *To: undisclosed-recipients:;*
> > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b5d6264d402b004dc626d51
> > 
> > The bounce notification you received was due to Mailman's default config
> > - where the list has to be explicitly listed as a recipient.
> 
> Yeah, this is the data I was hoping to see when I asked for the headers.
> I suspected this was what had happened.

Yes, these headers look like something that mailman would hold by
default. It is something that mailman *should* block. Including the
mailing list in a field other than To/Cc (or, as another example,
along with some number of other emails) suggests that the email likely
was sent to the mailing list by accident.

Obviously, that was not the case for this email. Thus the need for a
hopefully-existing moderator to step in and override the normally
helpful heuristics… ;-)

-- 
binki

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