[GRLUG] dead computer

Mike Williams knightperson at zuzax.com
Wed Dec 18 02:07:52 EST 2013


My best guess, based on everything I've seen here, is that the RAM is 
failing. You could replace it, but that might be throwing good money 
after bad. It's possible that the existing stuff will run for quite a 
while yet if you underclock it.

On 12/17/2013 01:50 PM, Cprossu wrote:
> >>[quote] DQS training failed on previous boot.   Reverted to slower 
> dram speed.[/quote]
>
>
> I've seen that message before with ram that was timed/clocked higher 
> than it would reliably perform stock, it being ADATA cheapie ram that 
> makes me wonder.
>
> I'd still make sure your cmos battery is good though, but until you 
> have another issue, happy computing!
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 9:29 AM, John-Thomas Richards 
> <jtr at jrichards.org <mailto:jtr at jrichards.org>> wrote:
>
>     On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 10:16:09AM -0500, Patrick Goupell wrote:
>     >
>     > On 12/16/2013 08:19 PM, Cprossu wrote:
>     > >I see all the hard stuff has been discussed. Make sure your cmos
>     > >battery has the correct charge/isn't shorted, I've had ECS boards
>     > >refuse to post due to that before (it will be a CR2032 lithium
>     > >button battery on your motherboard between the pcie and pci
>     > >slots). If it still doesn't boot with a battery swap, try the
>     > >clear cmos jumper. Like others here I'd check the few electrolytic
>     > >caps on the motherboard (Actually scratch that, report back of the
>     > >solid caps that are installed on that board are 'through-hole' or
>     > >not, I wonder if these are the badly made 'lytics from a while ago
>     > >that were made to 'look like' solid caps), then swap out the ram,
>     > >then try another power supply. I'd try a video card too for the
>     > >heck of it, even if it's an older PCI one. The good news is that
>     > >if it is your motherboard, you can pick up something fairly cheap
>     > >(like $55) off of newegg or something (I'd recommend like a Asus
>     > >M6A78L-M Plus), and if it ends up being your ram, 4gb of kingston
>     > >ddr3 1333 is currently going for around $30. Either way cheap fix.
>     > >
>     >
>     > Was in the computer this morning.
>     >
>     > Unplugged everything and inspected the motherboard.  Did not see
>     > anything that looked like bad / leaking capacitors (or anything
>     > else).
>     >
>     > Plugged everything back together and hit the power button.
>     >
>     > It came on with the following bios message:
>     >
>     > DQS training failed on previous boot.   Reverted to slower dram
>     speed.
>     >
>     > So I don't know what the problem was.  Will hope that it doesn't
>     come back.
>
>     A quick search on that error message suggests incorrectly overclocked
>     RAM, bad RAM, or a bad CMOS battery.
>     --
>     john-thomas
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