[GRLUG] Raspberry Pi launched!

Kyle dontwantspam1 at earthlink.net
Thu Mar 1 10:17:18 EST 2012


Oh, I don't disagree at all.  I think it's quite a cool project and will 
probably end up buying one (or something like it) myself someday.

What I object to is the artificial barrier the thought of it seems to be 
building in peoples' minds against them achieving their goals right away.

And keep in mind this is coming from a guy who really misses the days 
when you could walk into a local electronics store and buy a 4017, so I 
may be a little biased toward building things myself.  :)

- Kyle



On 02/29/2012 11:26 PM, John Wesorick wrote:
>
> A supported common platform is one reason. Availability (once they 
> start mass producing them) and price are others. For my project at 
> least (same thing with RaspBMC) , it would be super easy to host the 
> already built/setup OS, download it and dd to an SD card.
>
> Also, all hacking that's done on them benefits education (the 
> Raspberry Pi's main goal) in two ways. One, so the capabilities of the 
> device can be explored/tutorialized (yes, that's a word I just made 
> up) and second that once they are produced for schools, there will 
> already be tons of cool projects for kids to get excited for.
>
> My two cents.
>
> On Feb 29, 2012 11:11 PM, "Kyle" <dontwantspam1 at earthlink.net 
> <mailto:dontwantspam1 at earthlink.net>> wrote:
>
>     What I wonder is why there's so much hype for this when there are
>     other cheap low-power ARM devices being thrown out all the time. 
>     There are plenty of cell phones and other devices that'll run
>     Debian just fine - old cell phones, old e-book readers, etc. -
>     that suit the purposes of a number of the members' use cases. 
>     Even broken devices.  Who needs a working EDGE modem - just about
>     anything with WiFi fits the bill on a bunch of the use cases, and
>     any device that has software control of USB host mode (most ARM
>     devices I've encountered) solve the external storage cases.  HDMI
>     requires a phone or other device with an HDMI port (without an
>     external graphics card on USB host mode or something similar). 
>     Some of the devices (particularly e-readers) do not have media
>     decoding chips, but I don't see a need for that, nor even seeing
>     it being used due to unlikeliness of compiler compatibility in a
>     case like an Asterisk server.  That may be inaccurate, but it
>     still satisfies a lot of use cases.  I mean, I regularly carry
>     around two ARM devices that run Debian (and were not designed to)
>     and one that runs Ubuntu (again, not designed for it).  It's not
>     particularly difficult.  There are tools available to build chroot
>     images that often times you can run under Android with minimal
>     effort, giving you a familiar userland which you can apt-get
>     install packages to.
>
>     Don't get me wrong - the Raspberry Pi is a cool device - but I
>     guess my point is that even without getting one, the possibilities
>     and wants I've seen expressed are already achievable!  Go build
>     cool things!
>
>     - Kyle
>
>
>
>     On 02/29/2012 08:57 AM, Clay Ashby wrote:
>>     I'm looking forward to playing with this. For the purpose of
>>     conversation; what's everyone planning to do with theirs? Maybe
>>     this has already been discussed and I missed it...
>>
>>     My first thought was getting it to access internet through my
>>     Android phone. It might be fun to try and cluster a few of them -
>>     pointless, but fun.
>>
>>     On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 8:21 AM, Brandon White
>>     <rbwhite18 at gmail.com <mailto:rbwhite18 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>         Same situation here... lame...
>>
>>
>>         On Feb 29, 2012, at 7:18 AM, megadave wrote:
>>
>>         > Actually R-Pi's site was fine.
>>         >
>>         > It was their 'partner sites' (the ones that were supposed to be
>>         > actually taking orders) that fell over hard.
>>         >
>>         > FWIW, I was actually on at the time (by plan) trying to get
>>         in and
>>         > order.. I tried for half an hour before giving up and going
>>         to bed. It
>>         > appears that all either of their partner sites are now
>>         offering is
>>         > "register an interest".
>>         >
>>         > On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 05:42, Mike Williams
>>         <knightperson at zuzax.com <mailto:knightperson at zuzax.com>> wrote:
>>         >> Official launch was a few hours ago (6am GMT), and the
>>         demand was high
>>         >> enough to cripple their site. Shall we start a betting
>>         pool on how long it
>>         >> will take before somebody at GRLUG has one in hand on this
>>         side of the
>>         >> ocean?
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