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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 12:51:40 -0500
> From: John-Thomas Richards <jtr at jrichards.org>
> Subject: Re: [GRLUG] VirtualBox question
> To: grlug at grlug.org
> Message-ID: <20090305175119.GA4121 at jrichards.org>
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> On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 11:05:37AM -0500, Bill Littlejohn wrote:
>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 8:14 AM, John-Thomas Richards
>> <jtr at jrichards.org>wrote:
>>
>> > On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 02:43:11PM -0500, Bill Littlejohn wrote:
> [snip]
>> > > Sure - just copy the partition to a different drive.
>> > > There are a couple of ways I can think of.
>> > > What I would do requires an external USB hard drive of equivalent
>> (or
>> > > larger) capacity to your laptop hard drive.
>> > > Boot from a live-cd, then dd your laptop drive to the USB drive.
>> This
>> > will
>> > > overwrite anything on the USB drive with the copy.
>> > > Setup your VM and connect the USB drive to it. You should be able to
>> boot
>> > > the restore partition from there.
>> > > I assume the drivers would be somewhat borked since it's likely
>> preloaded
>> > > with your laptop hardware drivers. You'll want to install the
>> virtual
>> > > hardware drivers as soon as possible to straighten things out.
>> > > Bill
>> >
>> > Here is what I have done so far.  I created a 30GB virtual disk
>> (should
>> > be more than enough for what I need; once this is up and running I can
>> > delete another sizable virtual disk that I will no longer need, thus
>> > freeing up more disk space).  I then booted into that virtual machine
>> > with a Knoppix iso and created two partitions; one 10GB partition to
>> > hold the restore files and one 20GB partition to hold the operating
>> > system and applications.  I was able to format both partitions with
>> > NTFS.  I downloaded a Vista Recovery Disk iso that boots to install
>> from
>> > the restore partition.  It works up to the point it looks for the
>> > recovery files on the recovery partition.  The problem is it cannot
>> find
>> > the files on the restore partition since they are not there yet.  For
>> > the life of me I cannot figure out this shared folders thing with a
>> > Linux host and a Linux guest (since I need to copy the files first).
>> > The VirtualBox user manual is not very helpful on this point.
>> > --
>> > john-thomas
>>
>> I haven't used the shared folders feature, but certainly you would have
>> to
>> install the V.B. tools into the running livecd environment for it to
>> work. I
>> used an external USB drive instead.
>> You can't access your system /dev/sda1 partition directly from the VM,
>> because your running your system off that disk - thus the need to make a
>> copy of the partition.
>> Assuming you have an external drive with enough free space attached as
>> /dev/sdb, you could do
>> "dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/dev/sdb1/restore.img"
>> If you wanted to write the image to your home folder and then get folder
>> sharing working, then you could do
>> "dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/home/me/restore.img"
>> After you have the image file, and can access it from the VM, then just
>> do
>> the reverse _in the VM_ to write it to the virtual disk partition. i.e.
>> "dd
>> if=/dev/sdb1/restore.img of=/dev/sda1"
>> Be sure you understand where dd is reading and writing before executing
>> the
>> commands - it can hose your system quickly if you reverse the commands.
>> "man
>> dd"
>> Bill
>
> VirtualBox OSE does not appear to have USB support.  I am running the
> latest in Debian Squeeze (2.1.4_OSE).  I have the restore partition on a
> USB drive, ready to copy to the virtual drive, but I cannot access them.
> I am trying to figure out shared folders.  Once I have the files copied
> to the virtual drive, I am sure I won't have a problem.
>
> Thanks for the help!
> --
> john-thomas
> ------
> There is no opinion so absurd that some philosopher will not express it.
> Marcus Tullius Cicero, "Ad familiares"
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 11:46:20 -0500
> From: "Adam M. Erickson" <adam at openfad.com>
> Subject: Re: [GRLUG] VirtualBox question
> To: grlug at grlug.org
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>> VirtualBox OSE does not appear to have USB support. ?I am running the
>> latest in Debian Squeeze (2.1.4_OSE). ?I have the restore partition on a
>> USB drive, ready to copy to the virtual drive, but I cannot access them.
>> I am trying to figure out shared folders. ?Once I have the files copied
>> to the virtual drive, I am sure I won't have a problem.
>>
>
> The newest release seems to be the easiest to control USB
> connectivity. You have to choose in advance what can be accessed by
> the virtual system. If you do not select all or individual usb drives,
> by name, they will not pick them up by the virtual system.
>
> Make sure you installed the additional tools shared folders and will
> not work with out it.
>
> I like this new release you do not have to escape the mouse to use it
> on the host system any more.
>
> - Adam M. Erickson
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 12:07:55 -0500
> From: John-Thomas Richards <jtr at jrichards.org>
> Subject: Re: [GRLUG] VirtualBox question
> To: grlug at grlug.org
> Message-ID: <20090306170755.GA6268 at jrichards.org>
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> On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 12:51:40PM -0500, John-Thomas Richards wrote:
>> On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 11:05:37AM -0500, Bill Littlejohn wrote:
> [snip]
>> > I haven't used the shared folders feature, but certainly you would
>> have to
>> > install the V.B. tools into the running livecd environment for it to
>> work. I
>> > used an external USB drive instead.
>> > You can't access your system /dev/sda1 partition directly from the VM,
>> > because your running your system off that disk - thus the need to make
>> a
>> > copy of the partition.
>> > Assuming you have an external drive with enough free space attached as
>> > /dev/sdb, you could do
>> > "dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/dev/sdb1/restore.img"
>> > If you wanted to write the image to your home folder and then get
>> folder
>> > sharing working, then you could do
>> > "dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/home/me/restore.img"
>> > After you have the image file, and can access it from the VM, then
>> just do
>> > the reverse _in the VM_ to write it to the virtual disk partition.
>> i.e. "dd
>> > if=/dev/sdb1/restore.img of=/dev/sda1"
>> > Be sure you understand where dd is reading and writing before
>> executing the
>> > commands - it can hose your system quickly if you reverse the
>> commands. "man
>> > dd"
>> > Bill
>>
>> VirtualBox OSE does not appear to have USB support.  I am running the
>> latest in Debian Squeeze (2.1.4_OSE).  I have the restore partition on a
>> USB drive, ready to copy to the virtual drive, but I cannot access them.
>> I am trying to figure out shared folders.  Once I have the files copied
>> to the virtual drive, I am sure I won't have a problem.
>>
>> Thanks for the help!
>> --
>> john-thomas
>
> I was able to get the shared folders working.  I had to actually install
> an operating system into one partition since I needed to load an .iso
> with the necessary files (a LiveCD is a mounted CD; you get one or the
> other).  I was able to copy the files to the new recovery partition
> (within the VM).  I added the partition to GRUB and was able to boot the
> recovery installation.  I believe I am now at a complete standstill as
> the installer is unable to find my disk so the install fails.  Bleh.
>
> It was a good idea, I suppose.  Bill, thanks for all your work in trying
> to figure this out.
> --
> john-thomas
> ------
> I place economy among the first and most important republican virtues, and
> public debt as the greatest of the dangers to be feared. To preserve our
> independence, we must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt.
> Thomas Jefferson, third US president, architect and author (1743-1826)
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 12:10:43 -0500
> From: John-Thomas Richards <jtr at jrichards.org>
> Subject: Re: [GRLUG] VirtualBox question
> To: grlug at grlug.org
> Message-ID: <20090306171043.GB6268 at jrichards.org>
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>
> On Fri, Mar 06, 2009 at 11:46:20AM -0500, Adam M. Erickson wrote:
>> > VirtualBox OSE does not appear to have USB support. ?I am running the
>> > latest in Debian Squeeze (2.1.4_OSE). ?I have the restore partition on
>> a
>> > USB drive, ready to copy to the virtual drive, but I cannot access
>> them.
>> > I am trying to figure out shared folders. ?Once I have the files
>> copied
>> > to the virtual drive, I am sure I won't have a problem.
>> >
>>
>> The newest release seems to be the easiest to control USB
>> connectivity. You have to choose in advance what can be accessed by
>> the virtual system. If you do not select all or individual usb drives,
>> by name, they will not pick them up by the virtual system.
>>
>> Make sure you installed the additional tools shared folders and will
>> not work with out it.
>>
>> I like this new release you do not have to escape the mouse to use it
>> on the host system any more.
>>
>> - Adam M. Erickson
>
> The version in Debian is the latest release (2.1.4).  It is the Open
> Source Edition that has trouble with USB drives.  I could download the
> non-OSE version, but I run Debian for a reason.  ;-)
> --
> john-thomas
> ------
> The Lord prefers common-looking people. That is the reason He makes so
> many of them.
> Abraham Lincoln, 16th president of the U.S. (1809-1865)
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