[GRLUG] List Moderation

[Chris Lamrock]

This group just isn't fun anymore.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Justin Denick" <justin.denick at gmail.com>
To: <grlug at grlug.org>
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 10:48 AM
Subject: Re: [GRLUG] List Moderation


> With the highest level of due respect, I commend the efforts of the
> Grand Rapids Linux Users Group.
>
> Many of you, like myself, joined this list to learn more about using
> Linux at home or at work. The list
> enabled us to get the support we needed without having to RTFM and if
> we felt ambitious we could
> post something that helped us so that someone else benefit from it
>
> <flame>
> Then you do actually post something and some geek with a keyboard,
> finds fault with your logic. He posts
> his drivel and you get pissed cause he thinks he has some authority
> cause his buddies started the GRLUG.
> Sweet, keep it. I like BASH, I have no problem RTFM, and debian is for
> sissies who can't configure a kernel.
> No need to suspend this account Mr. Folkert, my name is tado and I'm
> out dis her biatch. Word.
> .</flame>
>
> GRLugers, I'm sure you're not jerks and I'm sure you all have mad
> super human computer skillz and that your
> list manners are just swell. But dude.
>
>
> On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 9:23 AM, Tim Schmidt <timschmidt at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 8:55 AM, Justin Denick <justin.denick at gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>>  > We should really think seriously about list moderation.
>>
>>  I assume that's your way of volunteering...  or do you want others to
>>  do the work?
>>
>>
>>  >  I don't who is maintaining this server anymore,
>>  >  but perhaps they might adjust the spam settings to discard any
>>  >  message containing certain buzz words like "top posting".
>>
>>  You just tripped the filter yourself.  This topic was dead (or so I
>>  thought) until you dredged it back up.
>>
>>
>>  >  We may even extend that to include messages that only
>>  >  serve to discredit our lists' reputation and inflame
>>  >  our attitudes.
>>
>>  Ah, yes.  Let's ban everything controversial, and burn some books
>>  while we're at it.
>>
>>
>>  >  The moderator may then choose to suspend the individuals' grlug
>>  >  account for a week or so.
>>
>>  IMHO, this sort of treatment should be reserved for spammers.  Normal
>>  discussion is quite well regulated by communal consensus.
>>
>>
>>  >  The constant discussion of RFC standards for electronic
>>  >  communication
>>
>>  huh?
>>
>>
>>  >  has made me  wonder if we don't look more like the Email Police
>>  >  and less like Linux enthusiasts!
>>
>>  I don't particularly care what you or I look like...  Looks rarely
>>  impart information of substance.
>>
>>
>>  >  Imagine what a prospective employer or recruitment firm thinks
>>  >  when reading our threads. I know they've read our posts, I've had
>>  >  them mentioned to me by a respected staffing firm.
>>
>>  Are you implying that the words of individuals you may not have ever
>>  met, may share nothing in common with (save membership to a diverse
>>  mailing list), have never worked with, and have no other associations,
>>  might influence your job prospects?
>>
>>  Ridiculous.
>>
>>  Your own actions, here, or anywhere else, are an employer's concern.
>>  How you handle yourself when the things around you go to shit.
>>
>>  Were I an employer, I'd have liked to see you lead by example, and
>>  attempt to reinforce and buttress upon existing community values.
>>  That's how successful [community] management is done.  Instead, you
>>  looked for someone else (a moderator, an objectionable content filter)
>>  to fix your problems for you.  I'd be much more worried about what
>>  _that_ says to a prospective employer than anything coming from my
>>  email address.
>>
>>  --tim
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