From billcreswell at gmail.com  Tue Jan  8 09:35:44 2008
From: billcreswell at gmail.com (Bill Creswell)
Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 09:35:44 -0500
Subject: [GRLUG] Dual Monitor - Control Display
Message-ID: <52b088230801080635w5cbf7b39s40849a3991d8a59@mail.gmail.com>

I would like to use a micro distro, like damn small linux, to run a display
that would open a different html window (or program window) on each monitor
in kiosk mode. On Windows, I accomplish this with the Matrox software.

How do I accomplish this with linux?

I would love to have a live cd, that would run the display automatically on
startup.

Any pointers?
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From mikemol at gmail.com  Tue Jan  8 11:21:14 2008
From: mikemol at gmail.com (Michael Mol)
Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 11:21:14 -0500
Subject: [GRLUG] Dual Monitor - Control Display
In-Reply-To: <52b088230801080635w5cbf7b39s40849a3991d8a59@mail.gmail.com>
References: <52b088230801080635w5cbf7b39s40849a3991d8a59@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f5e00c450801080821q62a78b12x2bf0d33dec4ddac7@mail.gmail.com>

On Jan 8, 2008 9:35 AM, Bill Creswell <billcreswell at gmail.com> wrote:
> I would like to use a micro distro, like damn small linux, to run a display
> that would open a different html window (or program window) on each monitor
> in kiosk mode. On Windows, I accomplish this with the Matrox software.
>
> How do I accomplish this with linux?
>
> I would love to have a live cd, that would run the display automatically on
> startup.
>
> Any pointers?

You could take a tiling window manager like wmii or ion3, and use its
configuration file to spawn browsers on each screen.  I don't know
that Firefox would work, though; You'd need a browser that would spawn
a second window when the command is run twice.  Of course, nothing
prevents you from runing Firefox on one screen, and any other
Gecko-based browser (e.g. Galeon) on the other.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiling_window_manager

You're likely going to need to fiddle with the X configuration,
though, in order to predict which screen goes on which monitor.  Have
you given much thought to input devices?  Or is that not a factor?

-- 
:wq

From brousch at gmail.com  Tue Jan  8 11:36:13 2008
From: brousch at gmail.com (Ben Rousch)
Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 11:36:13 -0500
Subject: [GRLUG] Dual Monitor - Control Display
In-Reply-To: <f5e00c450801080821q62a78b12x2bf0d33dec4ddac7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <52b088230801080635w5cbf7b39s40849a3991d8a59@mail.gmail.com>
	<f5e00c450801080821q62a78b12x2bf0d33dec4ddac7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d92a2d930801080836g35f4bb8bx7e3aec9f375540ad@mail.gmail.com>

Just a note: as of 2005 Galeon is no longer in development; Epiphany is its
suggested replacement.
http://gnomedesktop.org/node/2450

On Jan 8, 2008 11:21 AM, Michael Mol <mikemol at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Jan 8, 2008 9:35 AM, Bill Creswell <billcreswell at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I would like to use a micro distro, like damn small linux, to run a
> display
> > that would open a different html window (or program window) on each
> monitor
> > in kiosk mode. On Windows, I accomplish this with the Matrox software.
> >
> > How do I accomplish this with linux?
> >
> > I would love to have a live cd, that would run the display automatically
> on
> > startup.
> >
> > Any pointers?
>
> You could take a tiling window manager like wmii or ion3, and use its
> configuration file to spawn browsers on each screen.  I don't know
> that Firefox would work, though; You'd need a browser that would spawn
> a second window when the command is run twice.  Of course, nothing
> prevents you from runing Firefox on one screen, and any other
> Gecko-based browser (e.g. Galeon) on the other.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiling_window_manager
>
> You're likely going to need to fiddle with the X configuration,
> though, in order to predict which screen goes on which monitor.  Have
> you given much thought to input devices?  Or is that not a factor?
>
> --
> :wq
> _______________________________________________
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> grlug at grlug.org
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From driveray at ameritech.net  Tue Jan  8 13:40:00 2008
From: driveray at ameritech.net (Raymond McLaughlin)
Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2008 13:40:00 -0500
Subject: [GRLUG] Running 'date' in an init script- weirdness
Message-ID: <4783C380.5090001@ameritech.net>

LUG nuts:
I have written a simple init script, getmyip, for my laptop, the core of
which is as follows:
    echo -n $(/bin/date)..>>/var/log/IP.log
    /usr/bin/w3m -dump whatsmyip.org |grep "Your IP Address is"\
       >>/var/log/IP.log

I have symlinked the proper runlevel folders so that it runs last at
start up and first at shut down. (/etc/init.d/rc3.d/K01getmyip,
/etc/init.d/rc3.d/S22getmyip on Open SuSE 10.3).

It runs as expected on shutdown and produces a line in /var/log/IP.log
like this:

Tue Jan 8 10:08:06 EST 2008..         Your IP Address is ww.xx.yy.zz

but on startup it produces entries like this:

Tue Jan 8 10:09:25 EST 2008Tue Jan 8 10:09:53 EST 2008..            Your
IP Address is ww.xx.yy.zz

Notice the two dots after the date only appear once which indicates that
the echo-date line is not running twice, but rather the date command is
running a second time, always 17-18 seconds after the first.

I have added delays of up to 30 seconds to the start of the script, just
so any other startup processes that might affect the system clock can
finish. No change.

Also I have tried this script on a SuSE 10.3 virtual machine and it
works as expected, no problem.

This script serves it's purpose as it is, but I would like it to work
with less krufty looking output. Insights anyone?

TIA
Raymond McLaughlin

From billcreswell at gmail.com  Tue Jan  8 20:32:35 2008
From: billcreswell at gmail.com (Bill Creswell)
Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 20:32:35 -0500
Subject: [GRLUG] Dual Monitor - Control Display
In-Reply-To: <f5e00c450801080821q62a78b12x2bf0d33dec4ddac7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <52b088230801080635w5cbf7b39s40849a3991d8a59@mail.gmail.com>
	<f5e00c450801080821q62a78b12x2bf0d33dec4ddac7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <52b088230801081732s3c110fc4jb32603fe798381ba@mail.gmail.com>

On 1/8/08, Michael Mol <mikemol at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> You could take a tiling window manager like wmii or ion3, and use its
> configuration file to spawn browsers on each screen.  I don't know
> that Firefox would work, though; You'd need a browser that would spawn
> a second window when the command is run twice.  Of course, nothing
> prevents you from runing Firefox on one screen, and any other
> Gecko-based browser (e.g. Galeon) on the other.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiling_window_manager


Perfect! That's the start I need!

You're likely going to need to fiddle with the X configuration,
> though, in order to predict which screen goes on which monitor.  Have
> you given much thought to input devices?  Or is that not a factor?


In this case, I am going for a simple showtime display - imitating the
"translight" style of movie
showtimes that theatres use.
Like Rivertown had before C!C took over. I am just building a db-driven web
page to display title art with showtimes, to make a more
attractive display.

-- 
http://billcreswell.wordpress.com
http://billcreswell.com
http://grcomputerworks.com

http://billcreswell.wordpress.com/category/captioned-movie-trailers/
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From justin.denick at gmail.com  Wed Jan  9 12:40:13 2008
From: justin.denick at gmail.com (Justin Denick)
Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 12:40:13 -0500
Subject: [GRLUG] Postfix and always_bcc
Message-ID: <81e08d920801090940y1a1c0can4ec32301b71ecd26@mail.gmail.com>

I currently use this to backup mails sent by my mailserver
always_bcc = bkup at mydomain.com
recipient_bcc_maps =
sender_bcc_maps =

However I would like to tailor the default behavior a little. I don't
want to backup mail that is sent by mailman.
Some lists number over 30,000 names, so the overhead is a bit much.

Any ideas.

-- 
In vino veritas.
        [In wine there is truth.]
                -- Pliny

From thisboyiscrazy at gmail.com  Thu Jan 10 10:47:27 2008
From: thisboyiscrazy at gmail.com (Joe Vanderstelt)
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 10:47:27 -0500
Subject: [GRLUG] Next meeting.
Message-ID: <cea1322a0801100747v6f38db67od7e830690b435634@mail.gmail.com>

Just wondering if there is any news or status on the next meeting?

From slestak989 at gmail.com  Thu Jan 10 21:03:08 2008
From: slestak989 at gmail.com (Steve Romanow)
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 21:03:08 -0500
Subject: [GRLUG] mythtv
In-Reply-To: <2c97fe9d0712260644h4bbb1651n3f5748c6940ef32d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <477265F0.6070507@pembrook.net>
	<2c97fe9d0712260644h4bbb1651n3f5748c6940ef32d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4786CE5C.3070000@gmail.com>

Tim Schmidt wrote:
> On Dec 26, 2007 9:32 AM, David Pembrook <david at pembrook.net> wrote:
>   
>> Anyone else on the list using mythtv?
>>     
>
> Since v0.08
>
> The latest Mythbuntu _is_ incredibly slick.  I was impressed.
>
> --tim
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>   

Does anyone have a functional channels.conf for ota hdtv for Grand 
Rapids?  Im currently trying to scan, but if someone already has it.  or 
at least an initial transponder for use with dvbscan?

From matt.maxted at gmail.com  Wed Jan 16 13:45:12 2008
From: matt.maxted at gmail.com (Matt Maxted)
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 13:45:12 -0500
Subject: [GRLUG] Myth TV with Ubuntu
Message-ID: <d97e56fa0801161045u609a00dcn9c675272dbb5747f@mail.gmail.com>

Has anyone run MythTV with Ubunutu?  I would like to migrage my current Myth
Servers off to Ubuntu.
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From david at pembrook.net  Wed Jan 16 14:32:01 2008
From: david at pembrook.net (David Pembrook)
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 14:32:01 -0500
Subject: [GRLUG] Myth TV with Ubuntu
In-Reply-To: <d97e56fa0801161045u609a00dcn9c675272dbb5747f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d97e56fa0801161045u609a00dcn9c675272dbb5747f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BD6FD31F73E643AA8DDC1689951CE318@max>

Mythbuntu or Ubuntu? 

I've got one machine that is running mythbuntu. Been happy with it, only minor issues. The screensaver has crashed the frontend more than once. I just have to get around to turning it off.

Dave
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Matt Maxted 
  To: grlug at grlug.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 1:45 PM
  Subject: [GRLUG] Myth TV with Ubuntu


  Has anyone run MythTV with Ubunutu?  I would like to migrage my current Myth Servers off to Ubuntu.



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From bob.kline at gmail.com  Wed Jan 16 21:19:39 2008
From: bob.kline at gmail.com (Bob Kline)
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 21:19:39 -0500
Subject: [GRLUG] Hash Sum Mismatch
Message-ID: <d181b7d70801161819l536e23eajc68220993e6683a5@mail.gmail.com>

I installed Kubuntu 7.10 on a new
machine, and started to install some
packages using apt-get.  Seems most
to everything I asked for got the
response "insert system media," or words
to that effect, and then I invariably would
get "Hash Sum Mismatch."

Looking on the web,  I discover this is a
common problem.  One solution was
something like:

Patient:  Doctor, it hurts when I do this.

Doctor:  Don't do that.

In this case the suggestion was to comment
out the line in /etc/apt/sources.list having to
do with the CDROM.

That did in fact cure most of what was ailing
things, but it still seems like a bug, cured by
what M$ would call a patch.

Anyone know in any detail what "Hash Sum
Mismatch" is saying?  It sounds like a corrupt
DVD, but then the OS appears to have installed
without problems.

I have no particular desire to get to the CDROM,
because the newest stuff will not be there, but I'd
still like to have a better idea what is going on.

   -Bob
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From thisboyiscrazy at gmail.com  Wed Jan 16 21:23:49 2008
From: thisboyiscrazy at gmail.com (Joe Vanderstelt)
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 21:23:49 -0500
Subject: [GRLUG] Myth TV with Ubuntu
In-Reply-To: <BD6FD31F73E643AA8DDC1689951CE318@max>
References: <d97e56fa0801161045u609a00dcn9c675272dbb5747f@mail.gmail.com>
	<BD6FD31F73E643AA8DDC1689951CE318@max>
Message-ID: <cea1322a0801161823j5cbd4eb8n9670f984c4e881af@mail.gmail.com>

I run mythbuntu, and have installed and ran mythtv on ubuntu before.

Mythbuntu works great.

>
>
> Mythbuntu or Ubuntu?
>
> I've got one machine that is running mythbuntu. Been happy with it, only
> minor issues. The screensaver has crashed the frontend more than once. I
> just have to get around to turning it off.
>
> Dave
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Matt Maxted
> To: grlug at grlug.org
> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 1:45 PM
> Subject: [GRLUG] Myth TV with Ubuntu
>
> Has anyone run MythTV with Ubunutu?  I would like to migrage my current Myth
> Servers off to Ubuntu.
>
>
>  ________________________________
>
>
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From mikemol at gmail.com  Wed Jan 16 21:49:39 2008
From: mikemol at gmail.com (Michael Mol)
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 21:49:39 -0500
Subject: [GRLUG] Hash Sum Mismatch
In-Reply-To: <d181b7d70801161819l536e23eajc68220993e6683a5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d181b7d70801161819l536e23eajc68220993e6683a5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f5e00c450801161849h1e7feea4v3820900eaa976a9b@mail.gmail.com>

On Jan 16, 2008 9:19 PM, Bob Kline <bob.kline at gmail.com> wrote:
> I installed Kubuntu 7.10 on a new
> machine, and started to install some
> packages using apt-get.  Seems most
> to everything I asked for got the
> response "insert system media," or words
> to that effect, and then I invariably would
> get "Hash Sum Mismatch."
>
> Looking on the web,  I discover this is a
> common problem.  One solution was
> something like:
>
> Patient:  Doctor, it hurts when I do this.
>
> Doctor:  Don't do that.
>
> In this case the suggestion was to comment
> out the line in /etc/apt/sources.list having to
> do with the CDROM.
>
> That did in fact cure most of what was ailing
> things, but it still seems like a bug, cured by
> what M$ would call a patch.
>
> Anyone know in any detail what "Hash Sum
> Mismatch" is saying?  It sounds like a corrupt
> DVD, but then the OS appears to have installed
> without problems.
>
> I have no particular desire to get to the CDROM,
> because the newest stuff will not be there, but I'd
> still like to have a better idea what is going on.

Do you know which script is raising the error?

-- 
:wq

From mikemol at gmail.com  Wed Jan 16 21:52:26 2008
From: mikemol at gmail.com (Michael Mol)
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 21:52:26 -0500
Subject: [GRLUG] Lead acid batteries (slightly offtopic)
Message-ID: <f5e00c450801161852q1136b70ayc8626c7a24258815@mail.gmail.com>

At work we've got a couple old, dead UPS batteries.  Is there a place
we can take lead-acid batteries to get them recycled/properly disposed
of?

The closer to Jenison the better, but anywhere appropriate is better
than nowhere.

-- 
:wq

From bob.kline at gmail.com  Wed Jan 16 22:25:32 2008
From: bob.kline at gmail.com (Bob Kline)
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 22:25:32 -0500
Subject: [GRLUG] Lead acid batteries (slightly offtopic)
In-Reply-To: <f5e00c450801161852q1136b70ayc8626c7a24258815@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f5e00c450801161852q1136b70ayc8626c7a24258815@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d181b7d70801161925j14692436r564216fa6eaa74c1@mail.gmail.com>

The GR recycling  operation takes
batteries if you put them on the side
of your blue baskets.

Works if someone in your outfit  lives
in GR.

    -Bob


On Jan 16, 2008 9:52 PM, Michael Mol <mikemol at gmail.com> wrote:

> At work we've got a couple old, dead UPS batteries.  Is there a place
> we can take lead-acid batteries to get them recycled/properly disposed
> of?
>
> The closer to Jenison the better, but anywhere appropriate is better
> than nowhere.
>
> --
> :wq
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From bob.kline at gmail.com  Wed Jan 16 22:28:01 2008
From: bob.kline at gmail.com (Bob Kline)
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 22:28:01 -0500
Subject: [GRLUG] Hash Sum Mismatch
In-Reply-To: <f5e00c450801161849h1e7feea4v3820900eaa976a9b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d181b7d70801161819l536e23eajc68220993e6683a5@mail.gmail.com>
	<f5e00c450801161849h1e7feea4v3820900eaa976a9b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d181b7d70801161928q78bce48ag4aa995f18106fc64@mail.gmail.com>

On Jan 16, 2008 9:49 PM, Michael Mol <mikemol at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Jan 16, 2008 9:19 PM, Bob Kline <bob.kline at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I installed Kubuntu 7.10 on a new
> > machine, and started to install some
> > packages using apt-get.  Seems most
> > to everything I asked for got the
> > response "insert system media," or words
> > to that effect, and then I invariably would
> > get "Hash Sum Mismatch."
> >
> > Looking on the web,  I discover this is a
> > common problem.  One solution was
> > something like:
> >
> > Patient:  Doctor, it hurts when I do this.
> >
> > Doctor:  Don't do that.
> >
> > In this case the suggestion was to comment
> > out the line in /etc/apt/sources.list having to
> > do with the CDROM.
> >
> > That did in fact cure most of what was ailing
> > things, but it still seems like a bug, cured by
> > what M$ would call a patch.
> >
> > Anyone know in any detail what "Hash Sum
> > Mismatch" is saying?  It sounds like a corrupt
> > DVD, but then the OS appears to have installed
> > without problems.
> >
> > I have no particular desire to get to the CDROM,
> > because the newest stuff will not be there, but I'd
> > still like to have a better idea what is going on.
>
> Do you know which script is raising the error?
>
> --

I really don't know anything beyond what
I said before.  I took the CDROM entry out
of /etc/apt/sources.list,  and apt-get install X,
where X is some package,  now works.

Meaning that I don't get the message.

    -Bob
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From greg at gregfolkert.net  Wed Jan 16 23:58:57 2008
From: greg at gregfolkert.net (Greg Folkert)
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 23:58:57 -0500
Subject: [GRLUG] Hash Sum Mismatch
In-Reply-To: <d181b7d70801161819l536e23eajc68220993e6683a5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d181b7d70801161819l536e23eajc68220993e6683a5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1200545937.21102.73.camel@princess.gregfolkert.net>


On Wed, 2008-01-16 at 21:19 -0500, Bob Kline wrote:
> I installed Kubuntu 7.10 on a new
> machine, and started to install some
> packages using apt-get.  Seems most
> to everything I asked for got the 
> response "insert system media," or words
> to that effect, and then I invariably would 
> get "Hash Sum Mismatch."
> 
> Looking on the web,  I discover this is a
> common problem.  One solution was 
> something like:
> 
> Patient:  Doctor, it hurts when I do this.
> 
> Doctor:  Don't do that. 
> 
> In this case the suggestion was to comment
> out the line in /etc/apt/sources.list having to
> do with the CDROM.
> 
> That did in fact cure most of what was ailing
> things, but it still seems like a bug, cured by 
> what M$ would call a patch.

Really, how would you make that leap?

Explain to me how this would be comparable to a patch from Microsoft?

Better yet, let tell you how it is NOT comparable.

The fact that you have Internet connectivity, means that you have more than likely gotten an updated set of "package lists and checksums" from the Ubuntu repositories.

And the fact that you had the CD/DVD in the drive after you checked/updated. And *SINCE* you had updated your list, the first source listed is typically the CD/DVD... but wait the Checksums have been updated from online sources... but the installation program grabs the first available... being the CD/DVD with it being wrong size/calculated value.


> Anyone know in any detail what "Hash Sum
> Mismatch" is saying?  It sounds like a corrupt
> DVD, but then the OS appears to have installed
> without problems.
> 
> I have no particular desire to get to the CDROM, 
> because the newest stuff will not be there, but I'd
> still like to have a better idea what is going on.

And Bob, stop telling stories. With no particular desire for the CDROM, why even worry about it then. The CDROM image passes it checksum, but only after you effectively "apt-get update" does the problem even rear its head.

The real problem is where the installation program looks for things and what it grabs. Being a simple error in the installer (or as you said a bug).

But wait a PATCH is typically a replacement program or set of libraries, or some other kind of programming reference file.

No, this particular problem would be "windows registry hack" equivalent, not a patch. Quit thinking that Linux is Windows. It isn't even close to being that bad.

Modifying a config file as a workaround? Feh, don't even begin to make me laugh, Microsoft's workarounds for these kinds of things are HUGE and unwieldy, where as putting in a simple "octothorpe" in front of the "source" line fixed this.

I guess, I just never quite understand your never ending inability to see things wrongly.

Yes, for those that care, this is harsh, but there is a point. If you don't know, then learn.
-- 
greg at gregfolkert.net
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From bob.kline at gmail.com  Thu Jan 17 01:21:36 2008
From: bob.kline at gmail.com (Bob Kline)
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 01:21:36 -0500
Subject: [GRLUG] Hash Sum Mismatch
In-Reply-To: <1200545937.21102.73.camel@princess.gregfolkert.net>
References: <d181b7d70801161819l536e23eajc68220993e6683a5@mail.gmail.com>
	<1200545937.21102.73.camel@princess.gregfolkert.net>
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Didn't you promise the group you
were gone forever?  Or hopefully
even longer?

Note this is a TOP post.  And the
lines are short.

Remember?

    -Bob


On Jan 16, 2008 11:58 PM, Greg Folkert <greg at gregfolkert.net> wrote:

>
> On Wed, 2008-01-16 at 21:19 -0500, Bob Kline wrote:
> > I installed Kubuntu 7.10 on a new
> > machine, and started to install some
> > packages using apt-get.  Seems most
> > to everything I asked for got the
> > response "insert system media," or words
> > to that effect, and then I invariably would
> > get "Hash Sum Mismatch."
> >
> > Looking on the web,  I discover this is a
> > common problem.  One solution was
> > something like:
> >
> > Patient:  Doctor, it hurts when I do this.
> >
> > Doctor:  Don't do that.
> >
> > In this case the suggestion was to comment
> > out the line in /etc/apt/sources.list having to
> > do with the CDROM.
> >
> > That did in fact cure most of what was ailing
> > things, but it still seems like a bug, cured by
> > what M$ would call a patch.
>
> Really, how would you make that leap?
>
> Explain to me how this would be comparable to a patch from Microsoft?
>
> Better yet, let tell you how it is NOT comparable.
>
> The fact that you have Internet connectivity, means that you have more
> than likely gotten an updated set of "package lists and checksums" from the
> Ubuntu repositories.
>
> And the fact that you had the CD/DVD in the drive after you
> checked/updated. And *SINCE* you had updated your list, the first source
> listed is typically the CD/DVD... but wait the Checksums have been updated
> from online sources... but the installation program grabs the first
> available... being the CD/DVD with it being wrong size/calculated value.
>
>
> > Anyone know in any detail what "Hash Sum
> > Mismatch" is saying?  It sounds like a corrupt
> > DVD, but then the OS appears to have installed
> > without problems.
> >
> > I have no particular desire to get to the CDROM,
> > because the newest stuff will not be there, but I'd
> > still like to have a better idea what is going on.
>
> And Bob, stop telling stories. With no particular desire for the CDROM,
> why even worry about it then. The CDROM image passes it checksum, but only
> after you effectively "apt-get update" does the problem even rear its head.
>
> The real problem is where the installation program looks for things and
> what it grabs. Being a simple error in the installer (or as you said a bug).
>
> But wait a PATCH is typically a replacement program or set of libraries,
> or some other kind of programming reference file.
>
> No, this particular problem would be "windows registry hack" equivalent,
> not a patch. Quit thinking that Linux is Windows. It isn't even close to
> being that bad.
>
> Modifying a config file as a workaround? Feh, don't even begin to make me
> laugh, Microsoft's workarounds for these kinds of things are HUGE and
> unwieldy, where as putting in a simple "octothorpe" in front of the "source"
> line fixed this.
>
> I guess, I just never quite understand your never ending inability to see
> things wrongly.
>
> Yes, for those that care, this is harsh, but there is a point. If you
> don't know, then learn.
> --
> greg at gregfolkert.net
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From abrummitt at gmail.com  Thu Jan 17 01:45:22 2008
From: abrummitt at gmail.com (Aaron M. Brummitt)
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 01:45:22 -0500
Subject: [GRLUG] Hash Sum Mismatch
In-Reply-To: <d181b7d70801162221pcefcf2bse79f5bc34b4c2f1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d181b7d70801161819l536e23eajc68220993e6683a5@mail.gmail.com>
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	<d181b7d70801162221pcefcf2bse79f5bc34b4c2f1@mail.gmail.com>
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On Jan 17, 2008 1:21 AM, Bob Kline <bob.kline at gmail.com> wrote:
> Didn't you promise the group you
> were gone forever?  Or hopefully
> even longer?
>
> Note this is a TOP post.  And the
> lines are short.
>
> Remember?
>
>     -Bob
>

Please, for the sake of everyone who subscribes this list, will you
both please take your war off this list.  It's really, really
annoying.

Thanks,
/AMB

From greg at gregfolkert.net  Thu Jan 17 02:20:26 2008
From: greg at gregfolkert.net (Greg Folkert)
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 02:20:26 -0500
Subject: [GRLUG] Hash Sum Mismatch
In-Reply-To: <1fa63b160801162245x28ca7c04h1df8eb59a113c9d8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d181b7d70801161819l536e23eajc68220993e6683a5@mail.gmail.com>
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	<d181b7d70801162221pcefcf2bse79f5bc34b4c2f1@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <1200554426.26195.16.camel@princess.gregfolkert.net>


On Thu, 2008-01-17 at 01:45 -0500, Aaron M. Brummitt wrote:
> On Jan 17, 2008 1:21 AM, Bob Kline <bob.kline at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Didn't you promise the group you
> > were gone forever?  Or hopefully
> > even longer?
> >
> > Note this is a TOP post.  And the
> > lines are short.
> >
> > Remember?
> >
> >     -Bob
> >
> 
> Please, for the sake of everyone who subscribes this list, will you
> both please take your war off this list.  It's really, really
> annoying.
> 
> Thanks,
> /AMB

And just for your information Aaron, I answered his question in a harsh
manner. Mentioned NOTHING about the previous episode he brought up. Yet
Bob has the not the power to discuss the issue in a good manner. He just
baited you and you took the line.

He is the one that is egging it on. I personally cannot stand
intentional MISINFORMATION given in the light of "I'd like to know what
is going on". Its almost as if he is trolling... but without the second
mask on.

If you haven't noticed, he lets on that he actually hates this list.
Personally, I like this list and care to make sure others DO NOT take
mis-information as correct information.

Did I not answer his rhetorical question, factually?

Sure, I could have left off the last two sentences, but then, why did he
have to ignore the fact I explained to him and throw salt in everyone's
faces...

And you'll also note, *I DID NOT* even begin to go into any tirades
about posting habits. I thought perhaps he'd grown-up and just get down
to not pissing everyone off again and supporting his own statements.

BUT, I guess I was wrong, sorry for expecting better from Bob.
-- 
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From rlauzon at gmail.com  Thu Jan 17 03:43:13 2008
From: rlauzon at gmail.com (Ron Lauzon)
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 03:43:13 -0500
Subject: [GRLUG] Lead acid batteries (slightly offtopic)
In-Reply-To: <f5e00c450801161852q1136b70ayc8626c7a24258815@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f5e00c450801161852q1136b70ayc8626c7a24258815@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <478F1521.7030109@acm.org>

Michael Mol wrote:
> At work we've got a couple old, dead UPS batteries.  Is there a place
> we can take lead-acid batteries to get them recycled/properly disposed
> of?
>
> The closer to Jenison the better, but anywhere appropriate is better
> than nowhere.
>
>   

Your local Batteries Plus store will take them.

-- 
Ron Lauzon - rlauzon at acm dot org
   Homepage: http://7lauzon.home.comcast.net/
   Weblog: http://ronsapartment.blogspot.com/

   DNRC: Lord of All Things That Are Fattening

   "To be sure, conservative radio talk show hosts have a built-in
   audience unavailable to liberals: People driving cars to some
   sort of job." - Ann Coulter

Microsoft Free since July 06, 2001
Running Mandriva Linux 2007


From slestak989 at gmail.com  Thu Jan 17 04:31:10 2008
From: slestak989 at gmail.com (Steve Romanow)
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 04:31:10 -0500
Subject: [GRLUG] Myth TV with Ubuntu
In-Reply-To: <d97e56fa0801161045u609a00dcn9c675272dbb5747f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d97e56fa0801161045u609a00dcn9c675272dbb5747f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <478F205E.4040406@gmail.com>

Matt Maxted wrote:
> Has anyone run MythTV with Ubunutu?  I would like to migrage my 
> current Myth Servers off to Ubuntu.
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
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I have a new instlal of gutsy + mythbuntu-desktop.  works fine so far, 
but im a relative noob with myth.

From drehfeldtusa at gmail.com  Thu Jan 17 06:56:30 2008
From: drehfeldtusa at gmail.com (Douglas Rehfeldt)
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 06:56:30 -0500
Subject: [GRLUG] Battery recycling
In-Reply-To: <mailman.416.1200545600.3996.grlug@grlug.org>
References: <mailman.416.1200545600.3996.grlug@grlug.org>
Message-ID: <1200570990.6791.19.camel@redtop>

I would consider this topic to be a part of an organizations asset
management process.  And related to IT assets, whether is be hard
drives, backup tapes, paper, or used batteries from UPS's, disposal is
one part of that process.

For some facts: "The lead battery industry is the nation's largest user
of lead, consuming 80% of the lead in the country. For 10 consecutive
years, lead acid batteries have topped the list of the most highly
recycled consumer products with a 96.5% recycling rate in 1996."
[http://www.batteryrecycling.com/experts.html]

Your local government is a good place to start when looking for
recycling information.  Kent County as listed places for battery
recycling on their web site at
http://www.accesskent.com/YourGovernment/PublicWorks/Guide/Batteries.html

Also, some branches of Kent District Library have a battery drop off
inside the library for recycling.  Although this is intended for
home-use battery recycling. 



> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 21:52:26 -0500
> From: "Michael Mol" <mikemol at gmail.com>
> Subject: [GRLUG] Lead acid batteries (slightly offtopic)



From jefrat72 at gmail.com  Thu Jan 17 11:58:22 2008
From: jefrat72 at gmail.com (Joel Freiberg)
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 11:58:22 -0500
Subject: [GRLUG] Lead acid batteries (slightly offtopic)
In-Reply-To: <f5e00c450801161852q1136b70ayc8626c7a24258815@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f5e00c450801161852q1136b70ayc8626c7a24258815@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <38b465c60801170858m8b8477dh4e50211e1fd29fd7@mail.gmail.com>

Try this site:

http://www.accesskent.com/YourGovernment/PublicWorks/Guide/Batteries.htm

On Jan 16, 2008 9:52 PM, Michael Mol <mikemol at gmail.com> wrote:

> At work we've got a couple old, dead UPS batteries.  Is there a place
> we can take lead-acid batteries to get them recycled/properly disposed
> of?
>
> The closer to Jenison the better, but anywhere appropriate is better
> than nowhere.
>
> --
> :wq
> _______________________________________________
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From mikemol at gmail.com  Thu Jan 17 12:05:23 2008
From: mikemol at gmail.com (Michael Mol)
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 12:05:23 -0500
Subject: [GRLUG] Lead acid batteries (slightly offtopic)
In-Reply-To: <38b465c60801170858m8b8477dh4e50211e1fd29fd7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f5e00c450801161852q1136b70ayc8626c7a24258815@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <f5e00c450801170905u74134a4fnfca2ed56af104513@mail.gmail.com>

They talk about household batteries and automotive lead-acids.  I'll
call up one of the local auto shops and ask if they'll take any
lead-acid.

On Jan 17, 2008 11:58 AM, Joel Freiberg <jefrat72 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Try this site:
>
> http://www.accesskent.com/YourGovernment/PublicWorks/Guide/Batteries.htm
>
>
> On Jan 16, 2008 9:52 PM, Michael Mol < mikemol at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > At work we've got a couple old, dead UPS batteries.  Is there a place
> > we can take lead-acid batteries to get them recycled/properly disposed
> > of?
> >
> > The closer to Jenison the better, but anywhere appropriate is better
> > than nowhere.
> >
> > --
> > :wq
> > _______________________________________________
> >
> > grlug mailing list
> > grlug at grlug.org
> > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug
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>
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From jefrat72 at gmail.com  Thu Jan 17 12:09:23 2008
From: jefrat72 at gmail.com (Joel Freiberg)
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 12:09:23 -0500
Subject: [GRLUG] Lead acid batteries (slightly offtopic)
In-Reply-To: <f5e00c450801170905u74134a4fnfca2ed56af104513@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f5e00c450801161852q1136b70ayc8626c7a24258815@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <38b465c60801170909w429d2cwaf893ddc2e280957@mail.gmail.com>

I would think they would take any battery, if not Comprenew will.

http://www.comprenew.com/dropoff.php

On Jan 17, 2008 12:05 PM, Michael Mol <mikemol at gmail.com> wrote:

> They talk about household batteries and automotive lead-acids.  I'll
> call up one of the local auto shops and ask if they'll take any
> lead-acid.
>
> On Jan 17, 2008 11:58 AM, Joel Freiberg <jefrat72 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Try this site:
> >
> > http://www.accesskent.com/YourGovernment/PublicWorks/Guide/Batteries.htm
> >
> >
> > On Jan 16, 2008 9:52 PM, Michael Mol < mikemol at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > At work we've got a couple old, dead UPS batteries.  Is there a place
> > > we can take lead-acid batteries to get them recycled/properly disposed
> > > of?
> > >
> > > The closer to Jenison the better, but anywhere appropriate is better
> > > than nowhere.
> > >
> > > --
> > > :wq
> > > _______________________________________________
> > >
> > > grlug mailing list
> > > grlug at grlug.org
> > > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug
> > >
> >
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> >
>
>
>
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From mikemol at gmail.com  Thu Jan 17 12:16:58 2008
From: mikemol at gmail.com (Michael Mol)
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 12:16:58 -0500
Subject: [GRLUG] Lead acid batteries (slightly offtopic)
In-Reply-To: <38b465c60801170909w429d2cwaf893ddc2e280957@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f5e00c450801161852q1136b70ayc8626c7a24258815@mail.gmail.com>
	<38b465c60801170858m8b8477dh4e50211e1fd29fd7@mail.gmail.com>
	<f5e00c450801170905u74134a4fnfca2ed56af104513@mail.gmail.com>
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Thanks.

On Jan 17, 2008 12:09 PM, Joel Freiberg <jefrat72 at gmail.com> wrote:
> I would think they would take any battery, if not Comprenew will.
>
> http://www.comprenew.com/dropoff.php
>
>
>
> On Jan 17, 2008 12:05 PM, Michael Mol < mikemol at gmail.com> wrote:
> > They talk about household batteries and automotive lead-acids.  I'll
> > call up one of the local auto shops and ask if they'll take any
> > lead-acid.
> >
> > On Jan 17, 2008 11:58 AM, Joel Freiberg <jefrat72 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Try this site:
> > >
> > > http://www.accesskent.com/YourGovernment/PublicWorks/Guide/Batteries.htm
> > >
> > >
> > > On Jan 16, 2008 9:52 PM, Michael Mol < mikemol at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > At work we've got a couple old, dead UPS batteries.  Is there a place
> > > > we can take lead-acid batteries to get them recycled/properly disposed
> > > > of?
> > > >
> > > > The closer to Jenison the better, but anywhere appropriate is better
> > > > than nowhere.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > :wq
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > >
> > > > grlug mailing list
> > > > grlug at grlug.org
> > > > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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> > > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug
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> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > :wq
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> > grlug at grlug.org
> > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug
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From matt.maxted at gmail.com  Thu Jan 17 13:15:47 2008
From: matt.maxted at gmail.com (Matt Maxted)
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 13:15:47 -0500
Subject: [GRLUG] Myth TV with Ubuntu
In-Reply-To: <BD6FD31F73E643AA8DDC1689951CE318@max>
References: <d97e56fa0801161045u609a00dcn9c675272dbb5747f@mail.gmail.com>
	<BD6FD31F73E643AA8DDC1689951CE318@max>
Message-ID: <d97e56fa0801171015t7c7074f9s4709f03a109d97aa@mail.gmail.com>

Myth on straight Ubuntu.  I am going to attempt it this weekend.

On Jan 16, 2008 2:32 PM, David Pembrook <david at pembrook.net> wrote:

>  Mythbuntu or Ubuntu?
>
> I've got one machine that is running mythbuntu. Been happy with it, only
> minor issues. The screensaver has crashed the frontend more than once. I
> just have to get around to turning it off.
>
> Dave
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Matt Maxted <matt.maxted at gmail.com>
> *To:* grlug at grlug.org
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 16, 2008 1:45 PM
> *Subject:* [GRLUG] Myth TV with Ubuntu
>
> Has anyone run MythTV with Ubunutu?  I would like to migrage my current
> Myth Servers off to Ubuntu.
>
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From mikemol at gmail.com  Thu Jan 17 13:18:51 2008
From: mikemol at gmail.com (Michael Mol)
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 13:18:51 -0500
Subject: [GRLUG] Myth TV with Ubuntu
In-Reply-To: <d97e56fa0801171015t7c7074f9s4709f03a109d97aa@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d97e56fa0801161045u609a00dcn9c675272dbb5747f@mail.gmail.com>
	<BD6FD31F73E643AA8DDC1689951CE318@max>
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I tried it last night with a Hauppauge PVR150, and I have to say I
wasn't able to get it configured in the time I had available.  When I
tried setting up video sources, the front end seemed to lock up.

On Jan 17, 2008 1:15 PM, Matt Maxted <matt.maxted at gmail.com> wrote:
> Myth on straight Ubuntu.  I am going to attempt it this weekend.
>
>
>
> On Jan 16, 2008 2:32 PM, David Pembrook <david at pembrook.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Mythbuntu or Ubuntu?
> >
> > I've got one machine that is running mythbuntu. Been happy with it, only
> minor issues. The screensaver has crashed the frontend more than once. I
> just have to get around to turning it off.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Matt Maxted
> > To: grlug at grlug.org
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 1:45 PM
> > Subject: [GRLUG] Myth TV with Ubuntu
> >
> > Has anyone run MythTV with Ubunutu?  I would like to migrage my current
> Myth Servers off to Ubuntu.
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
>
> >
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From slestak989 at gmail.com  Thu Jan 17 21:33:59 2008
From: slestak989 at gmail.com (Steve Romanow)
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 21:33:59 -0500
Subject: [GRLUG] Myth TV with Ubuntu
In-Reply-To: <f5e00c450801171018s18b67786u15a15feebe6b3e3e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d97e56fa0801161045u609a00dcn9c675272dbb5747f@mail.gmail.com>	<BD6FD31F73E643AA8DDC1689951CE318@max>	<d97e56fa0801171015t7c7074f9s4709f03a109d97aa@mail.gmail.com>
	<f5e00c450801171018s18b67786u15a15feebe6b3e3e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <47901017.2000603@gmail.com>

Michael Mol wrote:
> I tried it last night with a Hauppauge PVR150, and I have to say I
> wasn't able to get it configured in the time I had available.  When I
> tried setting up video sources, the front end seemed to lock up.
>
> On Jan 17, 2008 1:15 PM, Matt Maxted <matt.maxted at gmail.com> wrote:
>   
>> Myth on straight Ubuntu.  I am going to attempt it this weekend.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jan 16, 2008 2:32 PM, David Pembrook <david at pembrook.net> wrote:
>>     
>>> Mythbuntu or Ubuntu?
>>>
>>> I've got one machine that is running mythbuntu. Been happy with it, only
>>>       
>> minor issues. The screensaver has crashed the frontend more than once. I
>> just have to get around to turning it off.
>>     
>>> Dave
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Matt Maxted
>>> To: grlug at grlug.org
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 1:45 PM
>>> Subject: [GRLUG] Myth TV with Ubuntu
>>>
>>> Has anyone run MythTV with Ubunutu?  I would like to migrage my current
>>>       
>> Myth Servers off to Ubuntu.
>>     
>>> ________________________________
>>>       
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> grlug mailing list
>>> grlug at grlug.org
>>> http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug
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>>     
> Does anyone need an antenna?  I am gettin an aeriel next week and have a phillips still NIB.
>
>
>   


From timschmidt at gmail.com  Sat Jan 19 14:57:49 2008
From: timschmidt at gmail.com (Tim Schmidt)
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 14:57:49 -0500
Subject: [GRLUG] Core 2 Duo
Message-ID: <2c97fe9d0801191157x6eea618cu5b6bcd7d2247ac13@mail.gmail.com>

I'm looking for an inexpensive (read: used) Core 2 Duo 6xxx series
CPU.  Speed doesn't really matter to me, the 6xxxs have VT extensions.
 That's what I want.  Anyone happen to have one they're willing to
part with for ~$100? (maybe just a little less?)

I've seen the lower end ones go on ebay for $80 - $130ish shipping
included on ebay over the last week or two.  Haven't won one yet.
(still kicking myself over the ones that went for $68 - doh!)

Hopefully someone out there's looking to upgrade to a quad core.  :D

Thanks.

--tim

From Eugene.Fowler at kentcountymi.gov  Thu Jan 17 08:39:16 2008
From: Eugene.Fowler at kentcountymi.gov (Eugene Fowler)
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 08:39:16 -0500
Subject: [GRLUG] Battery recycling
In-Reply-To: <1200570990.6791.19.camel@redtop>
References: <mailman.416.1200545600.3996.grlug@grlug.org>
	<1200570990.6791.19.camel@redtop>
Message-ID: <478F1434.3E97.0069.0@kentcountymi.gov>

I work for Kent County Dept. of Public Works.

We take all kind of batteries, small batteries, UPS, Car.   
The best drop off location for larger batteries is 322 Bartlett (Corner of Bartlett and Market St. Downtown GR.)

Here is a link to Ottawa County and they take car batteries and have a facility in the Georgetown area.
http://www.co.ottawa.mi.us/HealthComm/Health/pdf/ResourceBrochure.pdf

>>> Douglas Rehfeldt <drehfeldtusa at gmail.com> 1/17/2008 6:56 AM >>>
I would consider this topic to be a part of an organizations asset
management process.  And related to IT assets, whether is be hard
drives, backup tapes, paper, or used batteries from UPS's, disposal is
one part of that process.

For some facts: "The lead battery industry is the nation's largest user
of lead, consuming 80% of the lead in the country. For 10 consecutive
years, lead acid batteries have topped the list of the most highly
recycled consumer products with a 96.5% recycling rate in 1996."
[http://www.batteryrecycling.com/experts.html]

Your local government is a good place to start when looking for
recycling information.  Kent County as listed places for battery
recycling on their web site at
http://www.accesskent.com/YourGovernment/PublicWorks/Guide/Batteries.html 

Also, some branches of Kent District Library have a battery drop off
inside the library for recycling.  Although this is intended for
home-use battery recycling. 



> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 21:52:26 -0500
> From: "Michael Mol" <mikemol at gmail.com>
> Subject: [GRLUG] Lead acid batteries (slightly offtopic)


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From i.factotum at gmail.com  Tue Jan 22 11:51:43 2008
From: i.factotum at gmail.com (Mike Piasecki)
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 11:51:43 -0500
Subject: [GRLUG] Obtaining a 64-bit distro disk
Message-ID: <70a163ff0801220851k4c1d6f8cnb283733a7924ae82@mail.gmail.com>

Good morning!

I stumbled upon your contact info through the linux.org lug directory and I
have a favor if you can help at all.
I live up in the Rockford area and am, well, without a car and stuck on
dial-up. I was wondering if anyone in your group has a copy of an 64-bit
disto's availible on cd or dvd. I guess I am looking for either Debian or
Fedora if availible. I am willing to contribute a couple dollars if need be.

If anyone there is willing to help out I can give you my mailing address
upon reply.

Thanks for any help you can provide.

-- 
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From greg at gregfolkert.net  Tue Jan 22 23:13:50 2008
From: greg at gregfolkert.net (Greg Folkert)
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 23:13:50 -0500
Subject: [GRLUG] Obtaining a 64-bit distro disk
In-Reply-To: <70a163ff0801220851k4c1d6f8cnb283733a7924ae82@mail.gmail.com>
References: <70a163ff0801220851k4c1d6f8cnb283733a7924ae82@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1201061630.26343.160.camel@princess.gregfolkert.net>


On Tue, 2008-01-22 at 11:51 -0500, Mike Piasecki wrote:
> Good morning!
> 
> I stumbled upon your contact info through the linux.org lug directory
> and I have a favor if you can help at all.
> I live up in the Rockford area and am, well, without a car and stuck
> on dial-up. I was wondering if anyone in your group has a copy of an
> 64-bit disto's availible on cd or dvd. I guess I am looking for either
> Debian or Fedora if availible. I am willing to contribute a couple
> dollars if need be. 
> If anyone there is willing to help out I can give you my mailing
> address upon reply.
> 
> Thanks for any help you can provide.

Send me your info off-list, I'll send you a DVD set of Debian and/or
Fedora 8 (I think that is the latest), if you want.

Thanks for asking nicely Mike. Asking nicely nets lots of good things, I
just wish everyone would understand this.
-- 
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From justin.denick at gmail.com  Wed Jan 23 08:13:06 2008
From: justin.denick at gmail.com (Justin Denick)
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 08:13:06 -0500
Subject: [GRLUG] Battery recycling
In-Reply-To: <478F1434.3E97.0069.0@kentcountymi.gov>
References: <mailman.416.1200545600.3996.grlug@grlug.org>
	<1200570990.6791.19.camel@redtop>
	<478F1434.3E97.0069.0@kentcountymi.gov>
Message-ID: <81e08d920801230513p66a3fdc1u901beb205d940bc0@mail.gmail.com>

On Jan 17, 2008 8:39 AM, Eugene Fowler <Eugene.Fowler at kentcountymi.gov> wrote:
> I work for Kent County Dept. of Public Works.
>
> We take all kind of batteries, small batteries, UPS, Car.
> The best drop off location for larger batteries is 322 Bartlett (Corner of Bartlett and Market St. Downtown GR.)
>
> Here is a link to Ottawa County and they take car batteries and have a facility in the Georgetown area.
> http://www.co.ottawa.mi.us/HealthComm/Health/pdf/ResourceBrochure.pdf
>
> >>> Douglas Rehfeldt <drehfeldtusa at gmail.com> 1/17/2008 6:56 AM >>>
>
> I would consider this topic to be a part of an organizations asset
> management process.  And related to IT assets, whether is be hard
> drives, backup tapes, paper, or used batteries from UPS's, disposal is
> one part of that process.
>
> For some facts: "The lead battery industry is the nation's largest user
> of lead, consuming 80% of the lead in the country. For 10 consecutive
> years, lead acid batteries have topped the list of the most highly
> recycled consumer products with a 96.5% recycling rate in 1996."
> [http://www.batteryrecycling.com/experts.html]
>
> Your local government is a good place to start when looking for
> recycling information.  Kent County as listed places for battery
> recycling on their web site at
> http://www.accesskent.com/YourGovernment/PublicWorks/Guide/Batteries.html
>
> Also, some branches of Kent District Library have a battery drop off
> inside the library for recycling.  Although this is intended for
> home-use battery recycling.

I wonder... does comprenew take batteries?

I have nothing but good things to say about
this company. They're very timely and considerate
of your needs. I work for a non-profit, so they removed
about 500Lbs of old computer crap for FREE and we
sure do like free :-)


-- 
In vino veritas.
        [In wine there is truth.]
                -- Pliny

From jefrat72 at gmail.com  Wed Jan 23 11:13:21 2008
From: jefrat72 at gmail.com (Joel Freiberg)
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 11:13:21 -0500
Subject: [GRLUG] Battery recycling
In-Reply-To: <81e08d920801230513p66a3fdc1u901beb205d940bc0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.416.1200545600.3996.grlug@grlug.org>
	<1200570990.6791.19.camel@redtop>
	<478F1434.3E97.0069.0@kentcountymi.gov>
	<81e08d920801230513p66a3fdc1u901beb205d940bc0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <38b465c60801230813qffdc245i55a0d65c0350fe90@mail.gmail.com>

"I wonder... does comprenew take batteries?"

yes, I've taken batteries to them.

On Jan 23, 2008 8:13 AM, Justin Denick <justin.denick at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Jan 17, 2008 8:39 AM, Eugene Fowler <Eugene.Fowler at kentcountymi.gov>
> wrote:
> > I work for Kent County Dept. of Public Works.
> >
> > We take all kind of batteries, small batteries, UPS, Car.
> > The best drop off location for larger batteries is 322 Bartlett (Corner
> of Bartlett and Market St. Downtown GR.)
> >
> > Here is a link to Ottawa County and they take car batteries and have a
> facility in the Georgetown area.
> > http://www.co.ottawa.mi.us/HealthComm/Health/pdf/ResourceBrochure.pdf
> >
> > >>> Douglas Rehfeldt <drehfeldtusa at gmail.com> 1/17/2008 6:56 AM >>>
> >
> > I would consider this topic to be a part of an organizations asset
> > management process.  And related to IT assets, whether is be hard
> > drives, backup tapes, paper, or used batteries from UPS's, disposal is
> > one part of that process.
> >
> > For some facts: "The lead battery industry is the nation's largest user
> > of lead, consuming 80% of the lead in the country. For 10 consecutive
> > years, lead acid batteries have topped the list of the most highly
> > recycled consumer products with a 96.5% recycling rate in 1996."
> > [http://www.batteryrecycling.com/experts.html]
> >
> > Your local government is a good place to start when looking for
> > recycling information.  Kent County as listed places for battery
> > recycling on their web site at
> >
> http://www.accesskent.com/YourGovernment/PublicWorks/Guide/Batteries.html
> >
> > Also, some branches of Kent District Library have a battery drop off
> > inside the library for recycling.  Although this is intended for
> > home-use battery recycling.
>
> I wonder... does comprenew take batteries?
>
> I have nothing but good things to say about
> this company. They're very timely and considerate
> of your needs. I work for a non-profit, so they removed
> about 500Lbs of old computer crap for FREE and we
> sure do like free :-)
>
>
> --
> In vino veritas.
>        [In wine there is truth.]
>                -- Pliny
> _______________________________________________
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From dnielsen0007 at yahoo.com  Sat Jan 26 14:53:14 2008
From: dnielsen0007 at yahoo.com (dennis nielsen)
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 11:53:14 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [GRLUG] grlug Digest, Vol 19, Issue 2
Message-ID: <715286.94300.qm@web58113.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

Hi,

My nephew is attending an area college. He is taking several computer classes this semester. He is a smart kid, but feels out of his league. 
Most of the students in the classes have much more experience than he has. I would like to help him find a tutor to help him get through the first few weeks and help him build some self esteem. Some tutors can be very bright but do not deal with people in a kind, encouraging way.  Anyone have any suggestions? He lives in the Rockford area, it would be great to find someone local, if possible.

Thanks!



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From slestak989 at gmail.com  Sat Jan 26 23:06:19 2008
From: slestak989 at gmail.com (Steve Romanow)
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 23:06:19 -0500
Subject: [GRLUG] tutoring
In-Reply-To: <715286.94300.qm@web58113.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
References: <715286.94300.qm@web58113.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <479C033B.7010209@gmail.com>

dennis nielsen wrote:
> Hi,
>
> My nephew is attending an area college. He is taking several computer 
> classes this semester. He is a smart kid, but feels out of his league.
> Most of the students in the classes have much more experience than he 
> has. I would like to help him find a tutor to help him get through the 
> first few weeks and help him build some self esteem. Some tutors can 
> be very bright but do not deal with people in a kind, encouraging 
> way.  Anyone have any suggestions? He lives in the Rockford area, it 
> would be great to find someone local, if possible.
>
> Thanks!
>
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> it now. 
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Does he have transportation?  Tutoring for which classes?  Computer 
Science?  Math?
I wouldn't be much help for math, but programming, general cs stuff.
I could meet with him to give him a pep talk, see if the areas he feels 
weak in will matter.


Steve

From topher at wcsg.org  Mon Jan 28 12:19:52 2008
From: topher at wcsg.org (Topher)
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 12:19:52 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [GRLUG] 802.11g PCMCIA
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0801281217320.7947@boktor>

Heya, I'm hunting an 802.11g PCMCIA card, preferably something that would 
work in Ubuntu.  eBay has them new for ~$20.  Anyone have one they don't 
want anymore?

Topher
Manager of Internet Services
Cornerstone University Radio

------
"Changing window managers is like going on vacation and coming home again."
 			-- Jason Weed

From slestak989 at gmail.com  Mon Jan 28 21:25:48 2008
From: slestak989 at gmail.com (Steve Romanow)
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 21:25:48 -0500
Subject: [GRLUG] 802.11g PCMCIA
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0801281217320.7947@boktor>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0801281217320.7947@boktor>
Message-ID: <479E8EAC.8040803@gmail.com>

Topher wrote:
> Heya, I'm hunting an 802.11g PCMCIA card, preferably something that would 
> work in Ubuntu.  eBay has them new for ~$20.  Anyone have one they don't 
> want anymore?
>
> Topher
> Manager of Internet Services
> Cornerstone University Radio
>
> ------
> "Changing window managers is like going on vacation and coming home again."
>  			-- Jason Weed
> _______________________________________________
> grlug mailing list
> grlug at grlug.org
> http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug
>   
I have a usb dlink, not sure about ubuntu use.  prob will, your welcome 
to try.


From rick at vargo.org  Wed Jan 30 12:13:39 2008
From: rick at vargo.org (Rick Vargo)
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 12:13:39 -0500
Subject: [GRLUG] Job Opening
Message-ID: <47A0B043.7060000@vargo.org>

One Stop Inc. (located in Walker, MI) is America's top supplier of 
fashions and supplies to the imprintable fashion industry (embroiders, 
screen printers, etc.) We have an immediate job opening for a full time 
PHP programmer.  The chosen candidate will be responsible for developing 
from scratch, maintaining, and enhancing our e-commerce site(s) in PHP.  
Our current site (http://www.onestopinc.com/) is based on Cold Fusion 
and will replaced out with the site developed by the chosen candidate.

Job Requirements

    * Good understanding of object oriented programming and programming
      principles
    * Advanced understanding of the PHP programming language, HTML,
      Cascading Style Sheets, XML, and JavaScript
    * Advanced knowledge of Web protocols and programming requirements
    * Knowledge of UNIX operating system (primarily Linux) and Apache.
    * Advanced understanding of working with relational databases.
    * Advanced understanding of working with port communications.
    * Proven track record of delivering functional and maintenance releases.
    * Ability to cope with fast-paced and constantly changing environments.
    * Excellent organization, communication and interpersonal skills.
    * Programming in other languages such as C, C++ a plus!

Interested candidates should email me their resume with salary 
requirements.  Please include links to any sites you have developed or 
assisted in developing.

Thanks,
Rick Vargo





From mikemol at gmail.com  Wed Jan 30 12:31:38 2008
From: mikemol at gmail.com (Michael Mol)
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 12:31:38 -0500
Subject: [GRLUG] February meeting?
Message-ID: <f5e00c450801300931y29807ef3xdde45ddd64525d53@mail.gmail.com>

So are we having a meeting in February, then? :-)

Are we looking for presentation topics?

-- 
:wq

From dnielsen0007 at yahoo.com  Wed Jan 30 19:44:27 2008
From: dnielsen0007 at yahoo.com (dennis nielsen)
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 16:44:27 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [GRLUG] tutoring
Message-ID: <331472.30906.qm@web58112.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

Hi Steve,

I believe my nephew's problems are due to his inexperience with programming, though I may be wrong.
I will email him tonight and ask what specific problems he is having.

Thanks, 
Brad



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From cdubois at n-vint.com  Thu Jan 31 11:58:46 2008
From: cdubois at n-vint.com (Casey DuBois)
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 11:58:46 -0500
Subject: [GRLUG] February meeting? Tuesday February 12, 6-8pm
In-Reply-To: <f5e00c450801300931y29807ef3xdde45ddd64525d53@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f5e00c450801300931y29807ef3xdde45ddd64525d53@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9F172CF1A5341F4F989A2A1414D59669D6CF0711@NVMBX01.nvint.local>

I'm planning on a February meeting, how about Tuesday Feb 12, 6-8pm?
Topic has not been decided yet so please make suggestions.

Casey

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Mol [mailto:mikemol at gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 12:32 PM
To: grlug at grlug.org
Subject: [GRLUG] February meeting?

So are we having a meeting in February, then? :-)

Are we looking for presentation topics?

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From rick at vargo.org  Thu Jan 31 12:18:44 2008
From: rick at vargo.org (Rick Vargo)
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 12:18:44 -0500
Subject: [GRLUG] Job Opening
Message-ID: <47A202F4.2010707@vargo.org>

One Stop Inc. (located in Walker, MI) is America's top supplier of
fashions and supplies to the imprintable fashion industry (embroiders,
screen printers, etc.) We have an immediate job opening for a full time
PHP programmer.  The chosen candidate will be responsible for developing
from scratch, maintaining, and enhancing our e-commerce site(s) in PHP.
Our current site (http://www.onestopinc.com/) is based on Cold Fusion
and will replaced out with the site developed by the chosen candidate.

Job Requirements

    * Good understanding of object oriented programming and programming
      principles
    * Advanced understanding of the PHP programming language, HTML,
      Cascading Style Sheets, XML, and JavaScript
    * Advanced knowledge of Web protocols and programming requirements
    * Knowledge of UNIX operating system (primarily Linux) and Apache.
    * Advanced understanding of working with relational databases.
    * Advanced understanding of working with port communications.
    * Proven track record of delivering functional and maintenance releases.
    * Ability to cope with fast-paced and constantly changing environments.
    * Excellent organization, communication and interpersonal skills.
    * Programming in other languages such as C, C++ a plus!

Interested candidates should email me their resume with salary
requirements.  Please include links to any sites you have developed or
assisted in developing.

Thanks,
Rick Vargo





From dond at standalelumber.com  Thu Jan 31 13:19:16 2008
From: dond at standalelumber.com (Don Wood)
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 13:19:16 -0500
Subject: [GRLUG] February meeting? Tuesday February 12, 6-8pm
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On Thu, 2008-01-31 at 11:58 -0500, Casey DuBois wrote:
> I'm planning on a February meeting, how about Tuesday Feb 12, 6-8pm?
> Topic has not been decided yet so please make suggestions.
> 
> Casey
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Mol [mailto:mikemol at gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 12:32 PM
> To: grlug at grlug.org
> Subject: [GRLUG] February meeting?
> 
> So are we having a meeting in February, then? :-)
> 
> Are we looking for presentation topics?
> 
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I'd like to see other people like me that are implementing Linux in the
workplace. 


From mikemol at gmail.com  Thu Jan 31 14:43:00 2008
From: mikemol at gmail.com (Michael Mol)
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 14:43:00 -0500
Subject: [GRLUG] February meeting? Tuesday February 12, 6-8pm
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On Jan 31, 2008 1:19 PM, Don Wood <dond at standalelumber.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> On Thu, 2008-01-31 at 11:58 -0500, Casey DuBois wrote:
> > I'm planning on a February meeting, how about Tuesday Feb 12, 6-8pm?
> > Topic has not been decided yet so please make suggestions.
> >
> > Casey
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Michael Mol [mailto:mikemol at gmail.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 12:32 PM
> > To: grlug at grlug.org
> > Subject: [GRLUG] February meeting?
> >
> > So are we having a meeting in February, then? :-)
> >
> > Are we looking for presentation topics?
> >
> > --
> > :wq
> > _______________________________________________
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> > grlug at grlug.org
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> > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug
>
> I'd like to see other people like me that are implementing Linux in the
> workplace.

Not to be contrary, but I'd like to see some topics about Linux for
home users and hobbyists.  If anyone has interesting use-cases for
home or hobby use, I'd be interested to hear about it.

A few topics come to mind, like MythTV, embedded projects, custom
wireless devices...

-- 
:wq

From flanderb at gmail.com  Thu Jan 31 15:02:51 2008
From: flanderb at gmail.com (Benjamin Flanders)
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 15:02:51 -0500
Subject: [GRLUG] February meeting? Tuesday February 12, 6-8pm
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Here is a list of topics I would like to see, just not this next
meeting because I can't make it :)

-e-mail/calendering solutions:  I remember some talk at the last
meeting (negative reviews of zimbra, which I was going to look at)
-Media Center type of use:
    -MythTV DVR and alternatives
    -Just a media front end without the DVR
    -Hardware - small and fanless possible
-Virtualization
-Highlight favorite programs that we might not have noticed before
-Highlight different/unusual uses of programs that we might all know
-How to transition to linux from windows/mac
-Programs that help in the support of users (remote desktop stuff most likely)
-Advanced use of OpenOffice.org
-MS Access replacements
-Advanced Bash techniques
-Long term project of Linux-From-Scratch, bring in a computer and do
each step together.



On Jan 31, 2008 11:58 AM, Casey DuBois <cdubois at n-vint.com> wrote:
> I'm planning on a February meeting, how about Tuesday Feb 12, 6-8pm?
> Topic has not been decided yet so please make suggestions.
>
> Casey
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Mol [mailto:mikemol at gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 12:32 PM
> To: grlug at grlug.org
> Subject: [GRLUG] February meeting?
>
 So are we having a meeting in February, then? :-)
>
> Are we looking for presentation topics?
>
> --
> :wq
> _______________________________________________
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>



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Share and Enjoy
Ben

From mikemol at gmail.com  Thu Jan 31 15:09:39 2008
From: mikemol at gmail.com (Michael Mol)
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 15:09:39 -0500
Subject: [GRLUG] February meeting? Tuesday February 12, 6-8pm
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On Jan 31, 2008 3:02 PM, Benjamin Flanders <flanderb at gmail.com> wrote:
> Here is a list of topics I would like to see, just not this next
> meeting because I can't make it :)

You know, there really shouldn't be anything that prevents us from
recording presentations and throwing them up on Google Video.

Anyone have halfway decent portable recording equipment they could use
for the purpose?  My stuff is rudimentary, as I'm just getting
started.

-- 
:wq

From cdubois at n-vint.com  Thu Jan 31 15:31:23 2008
From: cdubois at n-vint.com (Casey DuBois)
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 15:31:23 -0500
Subject: [GRLUG] February meeting? Tuesday February 12, 6-8pm
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I've got the hardware to record all future events.

Casey



-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Mol [mailto:mikemol at gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 3:10 PM
To: grlug at grlug.org
Subject: Re: [GRLUG] February meeting? Tuesday February 12, 6-8pm

On Jan 31, 2008 3:02 PM, Benjamin Flanders <flanderb at gmail.com> wrote:
> Here is a list of topics I would like to see, just not this next
> meeting because I can't make it :)

You know, there really shouldn't be anything that prevents us from
recording presentations and throwing them up on Google Video.

Anyone have halfway decent portable recording equipment they could use
for the purpose?  My stuff is rudimentary, as I'm just getting
started.

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From Bill.Pribble at Haworth.com  Thu Jan 31 15:59:38 2008
From: Bill.Pribble at Haworth.com (Bill Pribble)
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 15:59:38 -0500
Subject: [GRLUG] February meeting? Tuesday February 12, 6-8pm
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Sorry if I missed this information but where is the meeting going to be
held at?

Thanks
Bill



From cdubois at n-vint.com  Thu Jan 31 16:04:02 2008
From: cdubois at n-vint.com (Casey DuBois)
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 16:04:02 -0500
Subject: [GRLUG] February meeting? Tuesday February 12, 6-8pm
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Hi Bill,
The meeting will be at:

N-VINT, Inc.
3240 Hanna Lake Industrial Park Dr. SE, Caledonia, MI 49316

Once we decide on a topic I will send an official invite with the complete details.

Casey

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Pribble [mailto:Bill.Pribble at Haworth.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 4:00 PM
To: grlug at grlug.org
Subject: Re: [GRLUG] February meeting? Tuesday February 12, 6-8pm

Sorry if I missed this information but where is the meeting going to be
held at?

Thanks
Bill


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From slestak989 at gmail.com  Thu Jan 31 20:50:40 2008
From: slestak989 at gmail.com (Steve Romanow)
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 20:50:40 -0500
Subject: [GRLUG] tutoring
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dennis nielsen wrote:
> Hi Steve,
>
> I believe my nephew's problems are due to his inexperience with 
> programming, though I may be wrong.
> I will email him tonight and ask what specific problems he is having.
>
> Thanks,
> Brad
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maybe just assure him that not everyone working in IS today is a 
computer geek.  A lot of my coworkers have lifes that dont revolve 
around Linux, Ubuntu, or even computers, and they do just fine.

From slestak989 at gmail.com  Thu Jan 31 20:54:47 2008
From: slestak989 at gmail.com (Steve Romanow)
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 20:54:47 -0500
Subject: [GRLUG] February meeting? Tuesday February 12, 6-8pm
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Some topics I could discuss are:

Work:
Trac implementation
NoMachine use
AD Authentication with Likewise Identity

Home:
Myth-adventures
OTA-hdtv in GR
pyTivo <- great product

What I would like to see:
any home automation, X10 stuff


Steve