From topher at wcsg.org Sun Sep 2 13:11:05 2007 From: topher at wcsg.org (Topher) Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 13:11:05 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [GRLUG] free to a good home Message-ID: I have a 6.01 GB internal laptop drive. It came to me from a lady cleaning house after her husband ran away to florida with a woman he met on the street. I don't know what's on it, and I'll probably never use it. If you want it, let me know. Topher Manager of Internet Services Cornerstone University Radio ------ "Changing window managers is like going on vacation and coming home again." -- Jason Weed From dond at standalelumber.com Thu Sep 13 10:47:20 2007 From: dond at standalelumber.com (Don Wood) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 10:47:20 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] Monthly meeting Message-ID: <002701c7f614$fd2ea5a0$6f01a8c0@standalelumber.com> Is there going to be a September meeting? From phillip9 at hotmail.com Thu Sep 13 13:11:39 2007 From: phillip9 at hotmail.com (phillip hebenstreit) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 13:11:39 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] Monthly meeting In-Reply-To: <002701c7f614$fd2ea5a0$6f01a8c0@standalelumber.com> References: <002701c7f614$fd2ea5a0$6f01a8c0@standalelumber.com> Message-ID: Hello, There is a monthly meeting of the West Michigan Linux Users Group (www.wmlug.org) at New Horizons near 28th Street & Cascade. There is a map on the website. The meeting is the last Thursday of each month. --Phill > From: dond at standalelumber.com> To: grlug at grlug.org> Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 10:47:20 -0400> Subject: [GRLUG] Monthly meeting> > Is there going to be a September meeting?> > > _______________________________________________> grlug mailing list> grlug at grlug.org> http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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"Cool Places to Work" in Michigan as selected by Crain's, American Society of Employers, and the MI Department of Labor. "Future 50 Company of Greater Detroit" recognizing the 50 Fastest Growing Companies in Southeast Michigan for 2004 and 2005. "Metro Detroit's 101 Best and Brightest Companies To Work For" for 2003, 2004, 2005, and 2006. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://shinobu.grlug.org/pipermail/grlug/attachments/20070913/9104fb6b/attachment-0001.htm -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Herer's an organizational question: should GRLUG merge with WMLUG? eah From jtr at jrichards.org Fri Sep 14 08:58:02 2007 From: jtr at jrichards.org (john-thomas richards) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 08:58:02 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] Monthly meeting In-Reply-To: <200709131913.33713.darth_linux@ameritech.net> References: <002701c7f614$fd2ea5a0$6f01a8c0@standalelumber.com> <200709131913.33713.darth_linux@ameritech.net> Message-ID: <20070914125802.GA7132@jrichards.org> On Thu, Sep 13, 2007 at 07:13:33PM -0400, eah wrote: > On Thursday 13 September 2007 10:47:20 Don Wood wrote: > > Is there going to be a September meeting? > > ya know, there should be a monthly meeting. Herer's an organizational > question: should GRLUG merge with WMLUG? Uh...wouldn't that require...change? Why would we change? We've always done it this way. That being said, that is not a bad idea - not necessarily a good idea, but it is not bad. Let's have a meeting to discuss it. Oh. Never mind. -- john-thomas ------ A stereotyped but unconscious despair is concealed even under what are called the games and amusements of mankind. Henry David Thoreau, naturalist and author (1817-1862) From geektoyz at gmail.com Fri Sep 14 20:00:16 2007 From: geektoyz at gmail.com (Godwin) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 20:00:16 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] GRLUG :: Maintenance Message-ID: <8b72b8d10709141700rb27b99ei6a452af3f0498989@mail.gmail.com> Greets, Tomorrow morning, the battery backup system will be checked/maintained. As such, I'll leave the server turned off tonight (so I don't have to come in early). I'll come in around noon and turn it back on. Yeah, I'm lazy. Thank goodness is non-critical. ;-) cheers, G- -- Ubber::Geek http://grlug.org/ From cdubois at n-vint.com Mon Sep 17 12:45:07 2007 From: cdubois at n-vint.com (Casey DuBois) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 12:45:07 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] Need help with SUN X4600 and RHEL4 Message-ID: <9F172CF1A5341F4F989A2A1414D5966915B7F99B@NVMBX01.nvint.local> Hello GRLUGGERS, I need help with a SunFire X4600 M2 running Solaris 10. We have installed an nVidia (NVS 285x1) PCI-Express Video card (only one that would fit) and need to get the nVidia module automatically loading into the Solaris Kernel and then re-configure X to use the nvidia hardware and acceleration. Please contact me with any questions. Sincerely, Casey M. DuBois N-VINT, Inc. 3240 Hanna Lake Industrial Park Dr. SE, Caledonia, MI 49316 616-656-5500 Office 866-337-2686 Direct AOL IM: CaseyNVINT cdubois at n-vint.com "I think there is a world market for maybe five computers." - Thomas John Watson - IBM -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://shinobu.grlug.org/pipermail/grlug/attachments/20070917/1ae7c3cf/attachment-0001.html From cdubois at n-vint.com Mon Sep 17 13:38:50 2007 From: cdubois at n-vint.com (Casey DuBois) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 13:38:50 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] FW: Need help with SUN X4600 and RHEL4 Message-ID: <9F172CF1A5341F4F989A2A1414D5966915B7F9C6@NVMBX01.nvint.local> I forgot to mention that my best friend Mr. CASH is looking forward to meeting with the person that gets this working........... Casey ________________________________ From: Casey DuBois [mailto:cdubois at n-vint.com] Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 12:45 PM To: grlug at grlug.org Subject: [GRLUG] Need help with SUN X4600 and RHEL4 Hello GRLUGGERS, I need help with a SunFire X4600 M2 running Solaris 10. We have installed an nVidia (NVS 285x1) PCI-Express Video card (only one that would fit) and need to get the nVidia module automatically loading into the Solaris Kernel and then re-configure X to use the nvidia hardware and acceleration. Please contact me with any questions. Sincerely, Casey M. DuBois N-VINT, Inc. 3240 Hanna Lake Industrial Park Dr. SE, Caledonia, MI 49316 616-656-5500 Office 866-337-2686 Direct AOL IM: CaseyNVINT cdubois at n-vint.com "I think there is a world market for maybe five computers." - Thomas John Watson - IBM -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://shinobu.grlug.org/pipermail/grlug/attachments/20070917/82f3ac26/attachment-0001.htm From cdubois at n-vint.com Mon Sep 17 14:34:34 2007 From: cdubois at n-vint.com (Casey DuBois) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 14:34:34 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] Next meeting In-Reply-To: <2DAD62F9671F2B4086B98467C14EE7D30BF60DEF@nahollex01.NA.Haworthinc.com> References: <2DAD62F9671F2B4086B98467C14EE7D30BF60DEF@nahollex01.NA.Haworthinc.com> Message-ID: <9F172CF1A5341F4F989A2A1414D5966915B7F9DC@NVMBX01.nvint.local> I can host a meeting and supply Food (Burgers & Brats) and Sodas for everyone. The last meeting was open topic and it seemed to work out great. Casey ________________________________ From: Bill Pribble [mailto:Bill.Pribble at Haworth.com] Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 1:43 PM To: grlug at grlug.org Subject: [GRLUG] Next meeting Hello Group, When and where is the next meeting? What is your topic? Thanks for the info Bill -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://shinobu.grlug.org/pipermail/grlug/attachments/20070917/2da8c62f/attachment.htm From mikemol at gmail.com Mon Sep 17 14:48:42 2007 From: mikemol at gmail.com (Michael Mol) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 14:48:42 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] Next meeting In-Reply-To: <9F172CF1A5341F4F989A2A1414D5966915B7F9DC@NVMBX01.nvint.local> References: <2DAD62F9671F2B4086B98467C14EE7D30BF60DEF@nahollex01.NA.Haworthinc.com> <9F172CF1A5341F4F989A2A1414D5966915B7F9DC@NVMBX01.nvint.local> Message-ID: Sounds interesting. Date and time? On 9/17/07, Casey DuBois wrote: > > > > > > I can host a meeting and supply Food (Burgers & Brats) and Sodas for > everyone. > > The last meeting was open topic and it seemed to work out great. > > Casey > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: Bill Pribble [mailto:Bill.Pribble at Haworth.com] > Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 1:43 PM > To: grlug at grlug.org > Subject: [GRLUG] Next meeting > > > > > > Hello Group, > > > > When and where is the next meeting? > > What is your topic? > > > > Thanks for the info > > Bill > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > -- :wq From cdubois at n-vint.com Mon Sep 17 15:40:40 2007 From: cdubois at n-vint.com (Casey DuBois) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 15:40:40 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] Next meeting In-Reply-To: References: <2DAD62F9671F2B4086B98467C14EE7D30BF60DEF@nahollex01.NA.Haworthinc.com> <9F172CF1A5341F4F989A2A1414D5966915B7F9DC@NVMBX01.nvint.local> Message-ID: <9F172CF1A5341F4F989A2A1414D5966915B7F9F3@NVMBX01.nvint.local> Well.... I was thinking of 6-8 but am flexible. I could do this week Wednesday or Friday Next week Monday or Wednesday would work also. Casey -----Original Message----- From: Michael Mol [mailto:mikemol at gmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 2:49 PM To: grlug at grlug.org Subject: Re: [GRLUG] Next meeting Sounds interesting. Date and time? On 9/17/07, Casey DuBois wrote: > > > > > > I can host a meeting and supply Food (Burgers & Brats) and Sodas for > everyone. > > The last meeting was open topic and it seemed to work out great. > > Casey > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: Bill Pribble [mailto:Bill.Pribble at Haworth.com] > Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 1:43 PM > To: grlug at grlug.org > Subject: [GRLUG] Next meeting > > > > > > Hello Group, > > > > When and where is the next meeting? > > What is your topic? > > > > Thanks for the info > > Bill > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > -- :wq _______________________________________________ grlug mailing list grlug at grlug.org http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug From mzuverink at gmail.com Mon Sep 17 15:42:45 2007 From: mzuverink at gmail.com (Marc Zuverink) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 15:42:45 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] Next meeting In-Reply-To: <9F172CF1A5341F4F989A2A1414D5966915B7F9DC@NVMBX01.nvint.local> References: <2DAD62F9671F2B4086B98467C14EE7D30BF60DEF@nahollex01.NA.Haworthinc.com> <9F172CF1A5341F4F989A2A1414D5966915B7F9DC@NVMBX01.nvint.local> Message-ID: <46EED8B5.8030402@gmail.com> Casey DuBois wrote: > > I can host a meeting and supply Food (Burgers & Brats) and Sodas for > everyone. > > The last meeting was open topic and it seemed to work out great. > > Casey > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:* Bill Pribble [mailto:Bill.Pribble at Haworth.com] > *Sent:* Monday, September 17, 2007 1:43 PM > *To:* grlug at grlug.org > *Subject:* [GRLUG] Next meeting > > > > Hello Group, > > > > When and where is the next meeting? > > What is your topic? > > > > Thanks for the info > > Bill > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug In addition to Casey, I too can host at my home in Holland a meeting, which we can conveniently couple with a Install Fest for Ubuntu Gusty/Release Party. On that note, I would also like to mention that the Ubuntu Michigan LoCo is seriously lacking any Western Michigan participation. -- Marc Zuverink I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. -Hunter S. Thompson From erickson.adam.m at gmail.com Mon Sep 17 16:06:28 2007 From: erickson.adam.m at gmail.com (Adam Erickson) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 16:06:28 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] Meetings Message-ID: <7cd69fdf0709171306m2ddd3a91k96471cbbb9a50dbd@mail.gmail.com> Hello is there any formal meetings or is everything done online. Sorry if this is posted somewhere I did not see it. Thank You -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/defanged-222 Size: 239 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://shinobu.grlug.org/pipermail/grlug/attachments/20070917/4ce202ce/attachment.bin From mikemol at gmail.com Mon Sep 17 16:22:44 2007 From: mikemol at gmail.com (Michael Mol) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 16:22:44 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] Next meeting In-Reply-To: <9F172CF1A5341F4F989A2A1414D5966915B7F9F3@NVMBX01.nvint.local> References: <2DAD62F9671F2B4086B98467C14EE7D30BF60DEF@nahollex01.NA.Haworthinc.com> <9F172CF1A5341F4F989A2A1414D5966915B7F9DC@NVMBX01.nvint.local> <9F172CF1A5341F4F989A2A1414D5966915B7F9F3@NVMBX01.nvint.local> Message-ID: I'll be out of town until next week Wednesday. :-/ On 9/17/07, Casey DuBois wrote: > Well.... > I was thinking of 6-8 but am flexible. > I could do this week Wednesday or Friday > Next week Monday or Wednesday would work also. > > Casey > > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Mol [mailto:mikemol at gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 2:49 PM > To: grlug at grlug.org > Subject: Re: [GRLUG] Next meeting > > Sounds interesting. Date and time? > > On 9/17/07, Casey DuBois wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I can host a meeting and supply Food (Burgers & Brats) and Sodas for > > everyone. > > > > The last meeting was open topic and it seemed to work out great. > > > > Casey > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > From: Bill Pribble [mailto:Bill.Pribble at Haworth.com] > > Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 1:43 PM > > To: grlug at grlug.org > > Subject: [GRLUG] Next meeting > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Group, > > > > > > > > When and where is the next meeting? > > > > What is your topic? > > > > > > > > Thanks for the info > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > grlug mailing list > > grlug at grlug.org > > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > > > > > -- > :wq > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > -- :wq From darth_linux at ameritech.net Mon Sep 17 19:14:06 2007 From: darth_linux at ameritech.net (eah) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 19:14:06 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] Next meeting In-Reply-To: <9F172CF1A5341F4F989A2A1414D5966915B7F9DC@NVMBX01.nvint.local> References: <2DAD62F9671F2B4086B98467C14EE7D30BF60DEF@nahollex01.NA.Haworthinc.com> <9F172CF1A5341F4F989A2A1414D5966915B7F9DC@NVMBX01.nvint.local> Message-ID: <200709171914.07211.darth_linux@ameritech.net> On Monday 17 September 2007 14:34, Casey DuBois wrote: > I can host a meeting and supply Food (Burgers & Brats) and Sodas for > everyone. The last meeting was open topic and it seemed to work out great. > Casey > > ________________________________ > From: Bill Pribble [mailto:Bill.Pribble at Haworth.com] > Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 1:43 PM > To: grlug at grlug.org > Subject: [GRLUG] Next meeting > > Hello Group, > > When and where is the next meeting? > What is your topic? > > Thanks for the info > Bill Casey promised food! meeting on! name the time/place casey. :-) seriously. name the time/place. we need a meeting bad. let's do an install/t-shoot/configure session. bring your box for any of those or more. thanks eah From darth_linux at ameritech.net Mon Sep 17 19:14:52 2007 From: darth_linux at ameritech.net (eah) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 19:14:52 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] Next meeting In-Reply-To: <9F172CF1A5341F4F989A2A1414D5966915B7F9F3@NVMBX01.nvint.local> References: <2DAD62F9671F2B4086B98467C14EE7D30BF60DEF@nahollex01.NA.Haworthinc.com> <9F172CF1A5341F4F989A2A1414D5966915B7F9F3@NVMBX01.nvint.local> Message-ID: <200709171914.53115.darth_linux@ameritech.net> On Monday 17 September 2007 15:40, Casey DuBois wrote: > Well.... > I was thinking of 6-8 but am flexible. > I could do this week Wednesday or Friday > Next week Monday or Wednesday would work also. > > Casey > > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Mol [mailto:mikemol at gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 2:49 PM > To: grlug at grlug.org > Subject: Re: [GRLUG] Next meeting > > Sounds interesting. Date and time? > > On 9/17/07, Casey DuBois wrote: > > I can host a meeting and supply Food (Burgers & Brats) and Sodas for > > everyone. > > > > The last meeting was open topic and it seemed to work out great. > > > > Casey > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > From: Bill Pribble [mailto:Bill.Pribble at Haworth.com] > > Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 1:43 PM > > To: grlug at grlug.org > > Subject: [GRLUG] Next meeting > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Group, > > > > > > > > When and where is the next meeting? > > > > What is your topic? > > > > > > > > Thanks for the info > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > grlug mailing list > > grlug at grlug.org > > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > > -- > > :wq > > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug wednesday next week is good. 6pm or so. where? eah From jerrydneal at sbcglobal.net Mon Sep 17 20:23:29 2007 From: jerrydneal at sbcglobal.net (Jerry Neal) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 17:23:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GRLUG] grlug Digest, Vol 18, Issue 6 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <984744.31706.qm@web81711.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I haven't come to a grlug meeting since 1998. Where do I go? grlug-request at grlug.org wrote: Send grlug mailing list submissions to grlug at grlug.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to grlug-request at grlug.org You can reach the person managing the list at grlug-owner at grlug.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of grlug digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Next meeting (Marc Zuverink) 2. Meetings (Adam Erickson) 3. Re: Next meeting (Michael Mol) 4. Re: Next meeting (eah) 5. Re: Next meeting (eah) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 15:42:45 -0400 From: Marc Zuverink Subject: Re: [GRLUG] Next meeting To: grlug at grlug.org Message-ID: <46EED8B5.8030402 at gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Casey DuBois wrote: > > I can host a meeting and supply Food (Burgers & Brats) and Sodas for > everyone. > > The last meeting was open topic and it seemed to work out great. > > Casey > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:* Bill Pribble [mailto:Bill.Pribble at Haworth.com] > *Sent:* Monday, September 17, 2007 1:43 PM > *To:* grlug at grlug.org > *Subject:* [GRLUG] Next meeting > > > > Hello Group, > > > > When and where is the next meeting? > > What is your topic? > > > > Thanks for the info > > Bill > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug In addition to Casey, I too can host at my home in Holland a meeting, which we can conveniently couple with a Install Fest for Ubuntu Gusty/Release Party. On that note, I would also like to mention that the Ubuntu Michigan LoCo is seriously lacking any Western Michigan participation. -- Marc Zuverink I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. -Hunter S. Thompson ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 16:06:28 -0400 From: "Adam Erickson" Subject: [GRLUG] Meetings To: grlug at grlug.org Message-ID: <7cd69fdf0709171306m2ddd3a91k96471cbbb9a50dbd at mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hello is there any formal meetings or is everything done online. Sorry if this is posted somewhere I did not see it. Thank You -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Date and time? > > On 9/17/07, Casey DuBois wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I can host a meeting and supply Food (Burgers & Brats) and Sodas for > > everyone. > > > > The last meeting was open topic and it seemed to work out great. > > > > Casey > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > From: Bill Pribble [mailto:Bill.Pribble at Haworth.com] > > Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 1:43 PM > > To: grlug at grlug.org > > Subject: [GRLUG] Next meeting > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Group, > > > > > > > > When and where is the next meeting? > > > > What is your topic? > > > > > > > > Thanks for the info > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > grlug mailing list > > grlug at grlug.org > > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > > > > > -- > :wq > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > -- :wq ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 19:14:06 -0400 From: eah Subject: Re: [GRLUG] Next meeting To: grlug at grlug.org Message-ID: <200709171914.07211.darth_linux at ameritech.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" On Monday 17 September 2007 14:34, Casey DuBois wrote: > I can host a meeting and supply Food (Burgers & Brats) and Sodas for > everyone. The last meeting was open topic and it seemed to work out great. > Casey > > ________________________________ > From: Bill Pribble [mailto:Bill.Pribble at Haworth.com] > Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 1:43 PM > To: grlug at grlug.org > Subject: [GRLUG] Next meeting > > Hello Group, > > When and where is the next meeting? > What is your topic? > > Thanks for the info > Bill Casey promised food! meeting on! name the time/place casey. :-) seriously. name the time/place. we need a meeting bad. let's do an install/t-shoot/configure session. bring your box for any of those or more. thanks eah ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 19:14:52 -0400 From: eah Subject: Re: [GRLUG] Next meeting To: grlug at grlug.org Message-ID: <200709171914.53115.darth_linux at ameritech.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" On Monday 17 September 2007 15:40, Casey DuBois wrote: > Well.... > I was thinking of 6-8 but am flexible. > I could do this week Wednesday or Friday > Next week Monday or Wednesday would work also. > > Casey > > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Mol [mailto:mikemol at gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 2:49 PM > To: grlug at grlug.org > Subject: Re: [GRLUG] Next meeting > > Sounds interesting. Date and time? > > On 9/17/07, Casey DuBois wrote: > > I can host a meeting and supply Food (Burgers & Brats) and Sodas for > > everyone. > > > > The last meeting was open topic and it seemed to work out great. > > > > Casey > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > From: Bill Pribble [mailto:Bill.Pribble at Haworth.com] > > Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 1:43 PM > > To: grlug at grlug.org > > Subject: [GRLUG] Next meeting > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Group, > > > > > > > > When and where is the next meeting? > > > > What is your topic? > > > > > > > > Thanks for the info > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > grlug mailing list > > grlug at grlug.org > > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > > -- > > :wq > > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug wednesday next week is good. 6pm or so. where? eah ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ grlug mailing list grlug at grlug.org http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug End of grlug Digest, Vol 18, Issue 6 ************************************ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://shinobu.grlug.org/pipermail/grlug/attachments/20070917/e3af962b/attachment-0001.htm From thisboyiscrazy at gmail.com Tue Sep 18 11:18:03 2007 From: thisboyiscrazy at gmail.com (Joe Vanderstelt) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 11:18:03 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] Next meeting In-Reply-To: <46EED8B5.8030402@gmail.com> References: <2DAD62F9671F2B4086B98467C14EE7D30BF60DEF@nahollex01.NA.Haworthinc.com> <9F172CF1A5341F4F989A2A1414D5966915B7F9DC@NVMBX01.nvint.local> <46EED8B5.8030402@gmail.com> Message-ID: I agree about the Ubuntu Michigan LoCo Western Michigan participation. I would love to help get something going. I think coupling with the release party is a great idea. so is there a date / time set for the next gathering. by next wed do you mean the 26? Also is the GRLUG join with the WMLUG, what is the status of that? On 9/17/07, Marc Zuverink wrote: > Casey DuBois wrote: > > > > I can host a meeting and supply Food (Burgers & Brats) and Sodas for > > everyone. > > > > The last meeting was open topic and it seemed to work out great. > > > > Casey > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > *From:* Bill Pribble [mailto:Bill.Pribble at Haworth.com] > > *Sent:* Monday, September 17, 2007 1:43 PM > > *To:* grlug at grlug.org > > *Subject:* [GRLUG] Next meeting > > > > > > > > Hello Group, > > > > > > > > When and where is the next meeting? > > > > What is your topic? > > > > > > > > Thanks for the info > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > grlug mailing list > > grlug at grlug.org > > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > In addition to Casey, I too can host at my home in Holland a meeting, > which we can conveniently couple with a Install Fest for Ubuntu > Gusty/Release Party. > > On that note, I would also like to mention that the Ubuntu Michigan LoCo > is seriously lacking any Western Michigan participation. > > -- > Marc Zuverink > > I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. > -Hunter S. Thompson > > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > From mikemol at gmail.com Tue Sep 18 11:42:11 2007 From: mikemol at gmail.com (Michael Mol) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 11:42:11 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] Next meeting In-Reply-To: <9F172CF1A5341F4F989A2A1414D5966915B7F9F3@NVMBX01.nvint.local> References: <2DAD62F9671F2B4086B98467C14EE7D30BF60DEF@nahollex01.NA.Haworthinc.com> <9F172CF1A5341F4F989A2A1414D5966915B7F9DC@NVMBX01.nvint.local> <9F172CF1A5341F4F989A2A1414D5966915B7F9F3@NVMBX01.nvint.local> Message-ID: With my new job, I typically get out of work after 8, so the later the meeting, the less early I'll have to excuse myself. On 9/17/07, Casey DuBois wrote: > Well.... > I was thinking of 6-8 but am flexible. > I could do this week Wednesday or Friday > Next week Monday or Wednesday would work also. > > Casey > > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Mol [mailto:mikemol at gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 2:49 PM > To: grlug at grlug.org > Subject: Re: [GRLUG] Next meeting > > Sounds interesting. Date and time? > > On 9/17/07, Casey DuBois wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I can host a meeting and supply Food (Burgers & Brats) and Sodas for > > everyone. > > > > The last meeting was open topic and it seemed to work out great. > > > > Casey > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > From: Bill Pribble [mailto:Bill.Pribble at Haworth.com] > > Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 1:43 PM > > To: grlug at grlug.org > > Subject: [GRLUG] Next meeting > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Group, > > > > > > > > When and where is the next meeting? > > > > What is your topic? > > > > > > > > Thanks for the info > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > grlug mailing list > > grlug at grlug.org > > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > > > > > -- > :wq > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > -- :wq From cdubois at n-vint.com Tue Sep 18 11:54:13 2007 From: cdubois at n-vint.com (Casey DuBois) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 11:54:13 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] Next meeting In-Reply-To: References: <2DAD62F9671F2B4086B98467C14EE7D30BF60DEF@nahollex01.NA.Haworthinc.com> <9F172CF1A5341F4F989A2A1414D5966915B7F9DC@NVMBX01.nvint.local> <46EED8B5.8030402@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9F172CF1A5341F4F989A2A1414D5966915B7FA68@NVMBX01.nvint.local> Let's all meet on Thursday the 27th @ the WMLUG instead of having 2-metings with sparse participation at both. http://www.wmlug.org/ We meet the last Thursday of the month at the New Horizons Computer Learning Center in Grand Rapids, MI. Membership is free. The meeting starts at 6:00 pm and typically runs for 2 hours. In addition to group discussions, a presentation is usually given to demonstrate a utility or a "How-To". Food is provided and donations are welcome to help with the cost. An RSVP is appreciated to help determine the amount of food to get. I hope to see you there! Casey -----Original Message----- From: Joe Vanderstelt [mailto:thisboyiscrazy at gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 11:18 AM To: grlug at grlug.org Subject: Re: [GRLUG] Next meeting I agree about the Ubuntu Michigan LoCo Western Michigan participation. I would love to help get something going. I think coupling with the release party is a great idea. so is there a date / time set for the next gathering. by next wed do you mean the 26? Also is the GRLUG join with the WMLUG, what is the status of that? On 9/17/07, Marc Zuverink wrote: > Casey DuBois wrote: > > > > I can host a meeting and supply Food (Burgers & Brats) and Sodas for > > everyone. > > > > The last meeting was open topic and it seemed to work out great. > > > > Casey > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > *From:* Bill Pribble [mailto:Bill.Pribble at Haworth.com] > > *Sent:* Monday, September 17, 2007 1:43 PM > > *To:* grlug at grlug.org > > *Subject:* [GRLUG] Next meeting > > > > > > > > Hello Group, > > > > > > > > When and where is the next meeting? > > > > What is your topic? > > > > > > > > Thanks for the info > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > grlug mailing list > > grlug at grlug.org > > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > In addition to Casey, I too can host at my home in Holland a meeting, > which we can conveniently couple with a Install Fest for Ubuntu > Gusty/Release Party. > > On that note, I would also like to mention that the Ubuntu Michigan LoCo > is seriously lacking any Western Michigan participation. > > -- > Marc Zuverink > > I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. > -Hunter S. Thompson > > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > _______________________________________________ grlug mailing list grlug at grlug.org http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug From thisboyiscrazy at gmail.com Tue Sep 18 12:13:25 2007 From: thisboyiscrazy at gmail.com (Joe Vanderstelt) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 12:13:25 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] Next meeting In-Reply-To: <9F172CF1A5341F4F989A2A1414D5966915B7FA68@NVMBX01.nvint.local> References: <2DAD62F9671F2B4086B98467C14EE7D30BF60DEF@nahollex01.NA.Haworthinc.com> <9F172CF1A5341F4F989A2A1414D5966915B7F9DC@NVMBX01.nvint.local> <46EED8B5.8030402@gmail.com> <9F172CF1A5341F4F989A2A1414D5966915B7FA68@NVMBX01.nvint.local> Message-ID: Who does the RSVP go to? On 9/18/07, Casey DuBois wrote: > Let's all meet on Thursday the 27th @ the WMLUG instead of having 2-metings with sparse participation at both. > > http://www.wmlug.org/ > > We meet the last Thursday of the month at the New Horizons Computer Learning Center in Grand Rapids, MI. Membership is free. The meeting starts at 6:00 pm and typically runs for 2 hours. In addition to group discussions, a presentation is usually given to demonstrate a utility or a "How-To". Food is provided and donations are welcome to help with the cost. An RSVP is appreciated to help determine the amount of food to get. > > I hope to see you there! > > Casey > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joe Vanderstelt [mailto:thisboyiscrazy at gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 11:18 AM > To: grlug at grlug.org > Subject: Re: [GRLUG] Next meeting > > I agree about the Ubuntu Michigan LoCo Western Michigan participation. > I would love to help get something going. I think coupling with the > release party is a great idea. > > so is there a date / time set for the next gathering. by next wed do > you mean the 26? > > Also is the GRLUG join with the WMLUG, what is the status of that? > > On 9/17/07, Marc Zuverink wrote: > > Casey DuBois wrote: > > > > > > I can host a meeting and supply Food (Burgers & Brats) and Sodas for > > > everyone. > > > > > > The last meeting was open topic and it seemed to work out great. > > > > > > Casey > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > *From:* Bill Pribble [mailto:Bill.Pribble at Haworth.com] > > > *Sent:* Monday, September 17, 2007 1:43 PM > > > *To:* grlug at grlug.org > > > *Subject:* [GRLUG] Next meeting > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > When and where is the next meeting? > > > > > > What is your topic? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the info > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > grlug mailing list > > > grlug at grlug.org > > > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > > In addition to Casey, I too can host at my home in Holland a meeting, > > which we can conveniently couple with a Install Fest for Ubuntu > > Gusty/Release Party. > > > > On that note, I would also like to mention that the Ubuntu Michigan LoCo > > is seriously lacking any Western Michigan participation. > > > > -- > > Marc Zuverink > > > > I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. > > -Hunter S. Thompson > > > > _______________________________________________ > > grlug mailing list > > grlug at grlug.org > > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > > > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > From phillip9 at hotmail.com Tue Sep 18 12:48:45 2007 From: phillip9 at hotmail.com (phillip hebenstreit) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 12:48:45 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] Next meeting In-Reply-To: References: <2DAD62F9671F2B4086B98467C14EE7D30BF60DEF@nahollex01.NA.Haworthinc.com> <9F172CF1A5341F4F989A2A1414D5966915B7F9DC@NVMBX01.nvint.local> <46EED8B5.8030402@gmail.com> <9F172CF1A5341F4F989A2A1414D5966915B7FA68@NVMBX01.nvint.local> Message-ID: Hi everyone, I am a member of the WMLUG, I will find out who you sould RSVP to and post it as soon as I find out. --Phill > Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 12:13:25 -0400> From: thisboyiscrazy at gmail.com> To: grlug at grlug.org> Subject: Re: [GRLUG] Next meeting> > Who does the RSVP go to?> > On 9/18/07, Casey DuBois wrote:> > Let's all meet on Thursday the 27th @ the WMLUG instead of having 2-metings with sparse participation at both.> >> > http://www.wmlug.org/> >> > We meet the last Thursday of the month at the New Horizons Computer Learning Center in Grand Rapids, MI. Membership is free. The meeting starts at 6:00 pm and typically runs for 2 hours. In addition to group discussions, a presentation is usually given to demonstrate a utility or a "How-To". Food is provided and donations are welcome to help with the cost. An RSVP is appreciated to help determine the amount of food to get.> >> > I hope to see you there!> >> > Casey> >> > -----Original Message-----> > From: Joe Vanderstelt [mailto:thisboyiscrazy at gmail.com]> > Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 11:18 AM> > To: grlug at grlug.org> > Subject: Re: [GRLUG] Next meeting> >> > I agree about the Ubuntu Michigan LoCo Western Michigan participation.> > I would love to help get something going. I think coupling with the> > release party is a great idea.> >> > so is there a date / time set for the next gathering. by next wed do> > you mean the 26?> >> > Also is the GRLUG join with the WMLUG, what is the status of that?> >> > On 9/17/07, Marc Zuverink wrote:> > > Casey DuBois wrote:> > > >> > > > I can host a meeting and supply Food (Burgers & Brats) and Sodas for> > > > everyone.> > > >> > > > The last meeting was open topic and it seemed to work out great.> > > >> > > > Casey> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------> > > >> > > > *From:* Bill Pribble [mailto:Bill.Pribble at Haworth.com]> > > > *Sent:* Monday, September 17, 2007 1:43 PM> > > > *To:* grlug at grlug.org> > > > *Subject:* [GRLUG] Next meeting> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Hello Group,> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > When and where is the next meeting?> > > >> > > > What is your topic?> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Thanks for the info> > > >> > > > Bill> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------> > > >> > > > _______________________________________________> > > > grlug mailing list> > > > grlug at grlug.org> > > > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug> > > In addition to Casey, I too can host at my home in Holland a meeting,> > > which we can conveniently couple with a Install Fest for Ubuntu> > > Gusty/Release Party.> > >> > > On that note, I would also like to mention that the Ubuntu Michigan LoCo> > > is seriously lacking any Western Michigan participation.> > >> > > --> > > Marc Zuverink > > >> > > I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.> > > -Hunter S. Thompson> > >> > > _______________________________________________> > > grlug mailing list> > > grlug at grlug.org> > > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug> > >> > _______________________________________________> > grlug mailing list> > grlug at grlug.org> > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug> > _______________________________________________> > grlug mailing list> > grlug at grlug.org> > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug> >> _______________________________________________> grlug mailing list> grlug at grlug.org> http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Date and time?> >> > On 9/17/07, Casey DuBois wrote:> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > I can host a meeting and supply Food (Burgers & Brats) and Sodas for> > > everyone.> > >> > > The last meeting was open topic and it seemed to work out great.> > >> > > Casey> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ________________________________> > >> > >> > > From: Bill Pribble [mailto:Bill.Pribble at Haworth.com]> > > Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 1:43 PM> > > To: grlug at grlug.org> > > Subject: [GRLUG] Next meeting> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Hello Group,> > >> > >> > >> > > When and where is the next meeting?> > >> > > What is your topic?> > >> > >> > >> > > Thanks for the info> > >> > > Bill> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > _______________________________________________> > > grlug mailing list> > > grlug at grlug.org> > > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug> > >> >> >> > --> > :wq> > _______________________________________________> > grlug mailing list> > grlug at grlug.org> > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug> > _______________________________________________> > grlug mailing list> > grlug at grlug.org> > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug> >> > > -- > :wq> _______________________________________________> grlug mailing list> grlug at grlug.org> http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://shinobu.grlug.org/pipermail/grlug/attachments/20070918/7b891671/attachment-0001.htm From darth_linux at ameritech.net Wed Sep 19 08:37:27 2007 From: darth_linux at ameritech.net (eah) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 08:37:27 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] Next meeting In-Reply-To: <9F172CF1A5341F4F989A2A1414D5966915B7FA68@NVMBX01.nvint.local> References: <2DAD62F9671F2B4086B98467C14EE7D30BF60DEF@nahollex01.NA.Haworthinc.com> <9F172CF1A5341F4F989A2A1414D5966915B7FA68@NVMBX01.nvint.local> Message-ID: <200709190837.28074.darth_linux@ameritech.net> On Tuesday 18 September 2007 11:54:13 am Casey DuBois wrote: > Let's all meet on Thursday the 27th @ the WMLUG instead of having 2-metings > with sparse participation at both. > > http://www.wmlug.org/ > > We meet the last Thursday of the month at the New Horizons Computer > Learning Center in Grand Rapids, MI. Membership is free. The meeting > starts at 6:00 pm and typically runs for 2 hours. In addition to group > discussions, a presentation is usually given to demonstrate a utility or a > "How-To". Food is provided and donations are welcome to help with the > cost. An RSVP is appreciated to help determine the amount of food to get. > > I hope to see you there! > > Casey > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joe Vanderstelt [mailto:thisboyiscrazy at gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 11:18 AM > To: grlug at grlug.org > Subject: Re: [GRLUG] Next meeting > > I agree about the Ubuntu Michigan LoCo Western Michigan participation. > I would love to help get something going. I think coupling with the > release party is a great idea. > > so is there a date / time set for the next gathering. by next wed do > you mean the 26? > > Also is the GRLUG join with the WMLUG, what is the status of that? > > On 9/17/07, Marc Zuverink wrote: > > Casey DuBois wrote: > > > I can host a meeting and supply Food (Burgers & Brats) and Sodas for > > > everyone. > > > > > > The last meeting was open topic and it seemed to work out great. > > > > > > Casey > > > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >- > > > > > > *From:* Bill Pribble [mailto:Bill.Pribble at Haworth.com] > > > *Sent:* Monday, September 17, 2007 1:43 PM > > > *To:* grlug at grlug.org > > > *Subject:* [GRLUG] Next meeting > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > When and where is the next meeting? > > > > > > What is your topic? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the info > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >- > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > grlug mailing list > > > grlug at grlug.org > > > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > > > > In addition to Casey, I too can host at my home in Holland a meeting, > > which we can conveniently couple with a Install Fest for Ubuntu > > Gusty/Release Party. > > > > On that note, I would also like to mention that the Ubuntu Michigan LoCo > > is seriously lacking any Western Michigan participation. > > > > -- > > Marc Zuverink > > > > I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but > > they've always worked for me. -Hunter S. Thompson > > > > _______________________________________________ > > grlug mailing list > > grlug at grlug.org > > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug They delayed their meeting to October 18th . Can GRLUG still have a meeting? Let's hang out and use linux. eah From cdubois at n-vint.com Wed Sep 19 13:01:49 2007 From: cdubois at n-vint.com (Casey DuBois) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 13:01:49 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] Next meeting In-Reply-To: <200709190837.28074.darth_linux@ameritech.net> References: <2DAD62F9671F2B4086B98467C14EE7D30BF60DEF@nahollex01.NA.Haworthinc.com> <9F172CF1A5341F4F989A2A1414D5966915B7FA68@NVMBX01.nvint.local> <200709190837.28074.darth_linux@ameritech.net> Message-ID: <9F172CF1A5341F4F989A2A1414D5966915B7FB65@NVMBX01.nvint.local> OK here we go. GRLUG Meeting Next week Wednesday the 26th From: 6-8pm Location: 3240 Hanna Lake Industrial Park Drive SE, Caledonia Please RSVP to cdubois at n-vint.com so I make sure to have enough Burgers and Brats for everyone. Casey 616-808-6942 Mobile -----Original Message----- From: eah [mailto:darth_linux at ameritech.net] Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 8:37 AM To: grlug at grlug.org Subject: Re: [GRLUG] Next meeting On Tuesday 18 September 2007 11:54:13 am Casey DuBois wrote: > Let's all meet on Thursday the 27th @ the WMLUG instead of having 2-metings > with sparse participation at both. > > http://www.wmlug.org/ > > We meet the last Thursday of the month at the New Horizons Computer > Learning Center in Grand Rapids, MI. Membership is free. The meeting > starts at 6:00 pm and typically runs for 2 hours. In addition to group > discussions, a presentation is usually given to demonstrate a utility or a > "How-To". Food is provided and donations are welcome to help with the > cost. An RSVP is appreciated to help determine the amount of food to get. > > I hope to see you there! > > Casey > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joe Vanderstelt [mailto:thisboyiscrazy at gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 11:18 AM > To: grlug at grlug.org > Subject: Re: [GRLUG] Next meeting > > I agree about the Ubuntu Michigan LoCo Western Michigan participation. > I would love to help get something going. I think coupling with the > release party is a great idea. > > so is there a date / time set for the next gathering. by next wed do > you mean the 26? > > Also is the GRLUG join with the WMLUG, what is the status of that? > > On 9/17/07, Marc Zuverink wrote: > > Casey DuBois wrote: > > > I can host a meeting and supply Food (Burgers & Brats) and Sodas for > > > everyone. > > > > > > The last meeting was open topic and it seemed to work out great. > > > > > > Casey > > > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >- > > > > > > *From:* Bill Pribble [mailto:Bill.Pribble at Haworth.com] > > > *Sent:* Monday, September 17, 2007 1:43 PM > > > *To:* grlug at grlug.org > > > *Subject:* [GRLUG] Next meeting > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > When and where is the next meeting? > > > > > > What is your topic? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the info > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >- > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > grlug mailing list > > > grlug at grlug.org > > > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > > > > In addition to Casey, I too can host at my home in Holland a meeting, > > which we can conveniently couple with a Install Fest for Ubuntu > > Gusty/Release Party. > > > > On that note, I would also like to mention that the Ubuntu Michigan LoCo > > is seriously lacking any Western Michigan participation. > > > > -- > > Marc Zuverink > > > > I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but > > they've always worked for me. -Hunter S. Thompson > > > > _______________________________________________ > > grlug mailing list > > grlug at grlug.org > > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug They delayed their meeting to October 18th . Can GRLUG still have a meeting? Let's hang out and use linux. eah _______________________________________________ grlug mailing list grlug at grlug.org http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug From darth_linux at ameritech.net Wed Sep 19 19:28:35 2007 From: darth_linux at ameritech.net (eah) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 19:28:35 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] Next meeting In-Reply-To: <9F172CF1A5341F4F989A2A1414D5966915B7FB65@NVMBX01.nvint.local> References: <2DAD62F9671F2B4086B98467C14EE7D30BF60DEF@nahollex01.NA.Haworthinc.com> <200709190837.28074.darth_linux@ameritech.net> <9F172CF1A5341F4F989A2A1414D5966915B7FB65@NVMBX01.nvint.local> Message-ID: <200709191928.35614.darth_linux@ameritech.net> On Wednesday 19 September 2007 01:01:49 pm Casey DuBois wrote: > OK here we go. > > GRLUG Meeting > Next week Wednesday the 26th > From: 6-8pm > Location: 3240 Hanna Lake Industrial Park Drive SE, Caledonia > > Please RSVP to cdubois at n-vint.com so I make sure to have enough Burgers and > Brats for everyone. > > Casey > 616-808-6942 Mobile > > w00t!! From timschmidt at gmail.com Wed Sep 19 21:07:46 2007 From: timschmidt at gmail.com (Tim Schmidt) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 21:07:46 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] Next meeting In-Reply-To: <200709191928.35614.darth_linux@ameritech.net> References: <2DAD62F9671F2B4086B98467C14EE7D30BF60DEF@nahollex01.NA.Haworthinc.com> <200709190837.28074.darth_linux@ameritech.net> <9F172CF1A5341F4F989A2A1414D5966915B7FB65@NVMBX01.nvint.local> <200709191928.35614.darth_linux@ameritech.net> Message-ID: <2c97fe9d0709191807g2601270diea2e82d0dac52a52@mail.gmail.com> Sweet... I'd be glad to talk a bit about the Arduino, and Penguicon. Or the Open Graphics Project or Open Hardware Foundation for that matter. Any of that sound remotely interesting? --tim From airplanejay at gmail.com Mon Sep 24 01:46:56 2007 From: airplanejay at gmail.com (Jason Kisner) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 01:46:56 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] PerformanceOptimizer.com? Message-ID: <5b9edb810709232246n24a694ehda38cb02adc6c78d@mail.gmail.com> Whenever I open Firefox I keep on getting this error saying my computer's performance is low and it prompts me to go to PerformanceOptimizer.com. My experience with stuff like this is usually the cause of some virus. Now, to me, this is unheard of in the Linux community, so I was wondering if this was something I should worry about. -- Rensik nosaj si eman ym. Worromot rof nalp, yadot rof evil. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://shinobu.grlug.org/pipermail/grlug/attachments/20070924/e056f42b/attachment.htm From jtr at jrichards.org Mon Sep 24 07:09:08 2007 From: jtr at jrichards.org (john-thomas richards) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 07:09:08 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] PerformanceOptimizer.com? In-Reply-To: <5b9edb810709232246n24a694ehda38cb02adc6c78d@mail.gmail.com> References: <5b9edb810709232246n24a694ehda38cb02adc6c78d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070924110907.GA14537@jrichards.org> On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 01:46:56AM -0400, Jason Kisner wrote: > Whenever I open Firefox I keep on getting this error saying my computer's > performance is low and it prompts me to go to PerformanceOptimizer.com. My > experience with stuff like this is usually the cause of some virus. Now, to > me, this is unheard of in the Linux community, so I was wondering if this > was something I should worry about. To what site is your homepage set? -- john-thomas ------ The only gift is giving to the poor; All else is exchange. Thiruvalluvar, poet (c. 30 BCE) From brousch at gmail.com Mon Sep 24 08:06:31 2007 From: brousch at gmail.com (Ben Rousch) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 08:06:31 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] PerformanceOptimizer.com? In-Reply-To: <5b9edb810709232246n24a694ehda38cb02adc6c78d@mail.gmail.com> References: <5b9edb810709232246n24a694ehda38cb02adc6c78d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: It is most likely an advertisement pop-up coming from the web page that comes up when you first open your browser. Try setting your home page to a blank page or something friendly like Google and see if it still happens. On 9/24/07, Jason Kisner wrote: > > Whenever I open Firefox I keep on getting this error saying my computer's > performance is low and it prompts me to go to PerformanceOptimizer.com. My > experience with stuff like this is usually the cause of some virus. Now, to > me, this is unheard of in the Linux community, so I was wondering if this > was something I should worry about. > > -- > Rensik nosaj si eman ym. > Worromot rof nalp, yadot rof evil. > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://shinobu.grlug.org/pipermail/grlug/attachments/20070924/87502c55/attachment.htm From airplanejay at gmail.com Mon Sep 24 11:24:09 2007 From: airplanejay at gmail.com (Jason Kisner) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 11:24:09 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] PerformanceOptimizer.com? In-Reply-To: References: <5b9edb810709232246n24a694ehda38cb02adc6c78d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5b9edb810709240824o7ac02976wc461395db6da7910@mail.gmail.com> I think it was a pop-up and I accidently hit the wrong buttons. I have it set at "Show my windows and tabs from last time". I think it may be "fixed", but not sure yet. I'll keep watching to see if that pop-up shows up again. On 9/24/07, Ben Rousch wrote: > > It is most likely an advertisement pop-up coming from the web page that > comes up when you first open your browser. Try setting your home page to a > blank page or something friendly like Google and see if it still happens. > > On 9/24/07, Jason Kisner wrote: > > > Whenever I open Firefox I keep on getting this error saying my > > computer's performance is low and it prompts me to go to > > PerformanceOptimizer.com. My experience with stuff like this is usually > > the cause of some virus. Now, to me, this is unheard of in the Linux > > community, so I was wondering if this was something I should worry about. > > > > -- > > Rensik nosaj si eman ym. > > Worromot rof nalp, yadot rof evil. > > _______________________________________________ > > grlug mailing list > > grlug at grlug.org > > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > > > > > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > -- Rensik nosaj si eman ym. Worromot rof nalp, yadot rof evil. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://shinobu.grlug.org/pipermail/grlug/attachments/20070924/902857bc/attachment-0001.htm From flanderb at gmail.com Mon Sep 24 16:23:40 2007 From: flanderb at gmail.com (Benjamin Flanders) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 16:23:40 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] editing then Burning DVD Message-ID: Does anyone have any experience editing .mpgs then burning them onto DVD for playback on a standalone dvd player? I have some tv programs I would like to save. I grabbed them off tivo, used tivodecode to unlock them and now I have some nice mpg's that I need to remove the commercials from. I am having trouble with audio sync. When played using videolan or mplayer the mpg's are perfect, but the moment I import it to avidemux to remove the commercials I get issues. When played in avidemux the audio starts off good but by the end of the hour show, it is off by a second or more. Also how about just creating a dvd. I decided that I could just fast forward over the comercials and I tried Deeveedee to burn the program but this crashed after ~3 hours of chugging. Has anyone had any luck with this endeavor? What programs should I be looking at? I am running Kubuntu 7.04 i386 version. -- Share and Enjoy From rlauzon at gmail.com Mon Sep 24 17:25:53 2007 From: rlauzon at gmail.com (Ron Lauzon) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 17:25:53 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] editing then Burning DVD In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <46F82B61.5060302@acm.org> Benjamin Flanders wrote: > Does anyone have any experience editing .mpgs then burning them onto > DVD for playback on a standalone dvd player? > Ya. Just did it today with the videos from the event I went to Sunday. There's a really good O'Reilly book called Linux Multimedia Hacks. One of the authors came to Penguicon a couple years ago and did a demonstration. You need: tovid - a set of tools that will re-encode your videos into the format that DVD players want dvdstyler - Lets you create menus and such and will create the ISO to burn. -- Ron Lauzon - rlauzon at acm dot org Homepage: http://7lauzon.home.comcast.net/ Weblog: http://ronsapartment.blogspot.com/ DNRC: Lord of All Things That Are Fattening "To be sure, conservative radio talk show hosts have a built-in audience unavailable to liberals: People driving cars to some sort of job." - Ann Coulter Microsoft Free since July 06, 2001 Running Mandriva Linux 2007 From cdubois at n-vint.com Tue Sep 25 10:42:15 2007 From: cdubois at n-vint.com (Casey DuBois) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 10:42:15 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] GRLUG Meeting Tomorrow (Wednesday September 26th 6-8PM) Message-ID: <9F172CF1A5341F4F989A2A1414D5966916A95030@NVMBX01.nvint.local> The next GRLUG meeting is upon us. Wednesday the 26th. From: 6-8PM Location: 3240 Hanna Lake Industrial Park Drive SE, Caledonia http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=3240+Hanna+Lake+Industrial+Park+Drive+SE,+Caledonia,+MI&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=24.455808,59.765625&ie=UTF8&ll=42.847275,-85.580063&spn=0.085205,0.159645&z=13&iwloc=addr&om=1 I am sponsoring Brats and Burgers so please RSVP to cdubois at n-vint.com so I can make sure to have enough. The meeting will be open format to discuss anything Linux however Tim Schmidt offered to talk about the following: I'd be glad to talk a bit about the Arduino, and Penguicon. Or the Open Graphics Project or Open Hardware Foundation for that matter. Please contact me with any questions or concerns. See you ALL tomorrow. Sincerely, Casey M. DuBois N-VINT, Inc. 3240 Hanna Lake Industrial Park Dr. SE, Caledonia, MI 49316 616-656-5500 Office 866-337-2686 Direct AOL IM: CaseyNVINT cdubois at n-vint.com "I think there is a world market for maybe five computers." - Thomas John Watson - IBM -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://shinobu.grlug.org/pipermail/grlug/attachments/20070925/fcfb41f8/attachment-0001.htm From justin.denick at gmail.com Tue Sep 25 10:48:06 2007 From: justin.denick at gmail.com (Justin Denick) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 10:48:06 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] Programming efficiently Message-ID: <81e08d920709250748k254eb96bq6e1a83a9d4c235c8@mail.gmail.com> In your valued opinions, which is a better programming standard to follow I have a maintenance page with SELECT boxes that offer content for a field. Let's take states for instance With ordinary html or even php printing html, the code would look like state_abrv {repeat for each state} Pros: No preprocessing at all Cons: HTML is for little girls print("\n". "state_abrv". {repeat for each state} ""); Pros: Call to print only once, No need to htmlize the content Cons: Still html A more dynamic approach might be "); while ($rows = (pg_fetch_array($result,NULL,PGSQL_ASSOC)) { print("$rows[st_abrv]"); } print(""); pg_free_result($result); ?> Pros: Dynamically generated content, less typing, scalable Cons: More calls to print, More preprocessing The first approach seemed okay for things that don't change, although it makes for a lot of typing, which I try to avoid at all costs. However, it doesn't provide a GUI avenue for adding more options. For states, this probably won't be a problem, but other items may change. Making them available to the maintenance page would require editing the actual code. The second approach offers more dynamics and less typing, but requires more server preprocessing, before the users gets the page their looking for. So I ask, which would you prefer? ?> -- In vino veritas. [In wine there is truth.] -- Pliny -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://shinobu.grlug.org/pipermail/grlug/attachments/20070925/7692c511/attachment.htm From topher at wcsg.org Tue Sep 25 12:18:21 2007 From: topher at wcsg.org (Topher) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 12:18:21 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [GRLUG] Programming efficiently In-Reply-To: <81e08d920709250748k254eb96bq6e1a83a9d4c235c8@mail.gmail.com> References: <81e08d920709250748k254eb96bq6e1a83a9d4c235c8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > A more dynamic approach might be > > $sql="SELECT st_abrv FROM schema.table-with-st_abrv ORDER BY st_abrv;"; > > So I ask, which would you prefer? I'd do something similar to three for something like states. However, also for something like states I'd get all the states into an array somewhow, whether it be by manually creating it, or generating it with your sql call. Once you have it in an array you can do all sorts of things like make a drop list, easily mark one option item "selected", or whatever. Topher Manager of Internet Services Cornerstone University Radio ------ perl -e 'print join "", (map({chr(hex(/usr/bin/pine))} (shift =~ /\w{2}/g))),"\n"' \ 4920776973682049206B6E6577204865782E00 From mikemol at gmail.com Tue Sep 25 14:20:57 2007 From: mikemol at gmail.com (Michael Mol) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 14:20:57 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] GRLUG Meeting Tomorrow (Wednesday September 26th 6-8PM) In-Reply-To: <9F172CF1A5341F4F989A2A1414D5966916A95030@NVMBX01.nvint.local> References: <9F172CF1A5341F4F989A2A1414D5966916A95030@NVMBX01.nvint.local> Message-ID: Sigh...I'm not going to catch this one. I'll keep an eye out for the next, though. On 9/25/07, Casey DuBois wrote: > > > > > > The next GRLUG meeting is upon us. > > > > Wednesday the 26th. > > From: 6-8PM > > Location: 3240 Hanna Lake Industrial Park Drive SE, Caledonia > > > > http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=3240+Hanna+Lake+Industrial+Park+Drive+SE,+Caledonia,+MI&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=24.455808,59.765625&ie=UTF8&ll=42.847275,-85.580063&spn=0.085205,0.159645&z=13&iwloc=addr&om=1 > > > > I am sponsoring Brats and Burgers so please RSVP to cdubois at n-vint.com so I > can make sure to have enough. > > > > The meeting will be open format to discuss anything Linux however Tim > Schmidt offered to talk about the following: > > I'd be glad to talk a bit about the Arduino, and Penguicon. Or the Open > Graphics Project or Open Hardware Foundation for that matter. > > > > Please contact me with any questions or concerns. > > > > See you ALL tomorrow. > > > > Sincerely, > > Casey M. DuBois > > N-VINT, Inc. > > 3240 Hanna Lake Industrial Park Dr. SE, Caledonia, MI 49316 > > 616-656-5500 Office > > 866-337-2686 Direct > > AOL IM: CaseyNVINT > > cdubois at n-vint.com > > > > "I think there is a world market for maybe five computers." > > - Thomas John Watson - IBM > > > > > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > -- :wq From flanderb at gmail.com Tue Sep 25 15:05:35 2007 From: flanderb at gmail.com (Benjamin Flanders) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 15:05:35 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] editing then Burning DVD In-Reply-To: <46F82B61.5060302@acm.org> References: <46F82B61.5060302@acm.org> Message-ID: Thank you Ron. Tovid looks like an easy way to create DVD's from videos. Interesting that while it is a command line program, it seems that it is easier to use than the GUI programs I was trying to use. This should solve my creating DVD's issues. Now the issue of editing the .mpg files. Anyone have luck chopping up a video. What programs did you use. -- Share and Enjoy On 9/24/07, Ron Lauzon wrote: > Benjamin Flanders wrote: > > Does anyone have any experience editing .mpgs then burning them onto > > DVD for playback on a standalone dvd player? > > > > Ya. Just did it today with the videos from the event I went to Sunday. > > There's a really good O'Reilly book called Linux Multimedia Hacks. One > of the authors came to Penguicon a couple years ago and did a demonstration. > > You need: > tovid - a set of tools that will re-encode your videos into the format > that DVD players want > dvdstyler - Lets you create menus and such and will create the ISO to burn. > > -- > Ron Lauzon - rlauzon at acm dot org > Homepage: http://7lauzon.home.comcast.net/ > Weblog: http://ronsapartment.blogspot.com/ > > DNRC: Lord of All Things That Are Fattening > > "To be sure, conservative radio talk show hosts have a built-in > audience unavailable to liberals: People driving cars to some > sort of job." - Ann Coulter > > Microsoft Free since July 06, 2001 > Running Mandriva Linux 2007 > > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > From justin.denick at gmail.com Tue Sep 25 15:08:35 2007 From: justin.denick at gmail.com (Justin Denick) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 15:08:35 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] Programming efficiently In-Reply-To: References: <81e08d920709250748k254eb96bq6e1a83a9d4c235c8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <81e08d920709251208y1d50bb4cm946fd301381f8110@mail.gmail.com> On 9/25/07, Topher wrote: > > > A more dynamic approach might be > > > > > $sql="SELECT st_abrv FROM schema.table-with-st_abrv ORDER BY st_abrv;"; > > > > So I ask, which would you prefer? > > I'd do something similar to three for something like states. However, > also for something like states I'd get all the states into an array > somewhow, whether it be by manually creating it, or generating it with > your sql call. If I were to put all the values of the states into an array in an included file $array=array(MI,{...}); "); foreach ($array as $value) { // $array is defined in "file-with-variables" print ($value); } print (""); Where are the elements of the array stored, are they held in the servers memory, or the clients? So if 50 clients connect, will each store their own variables, or will the variables be stored 50 times in the server's memory? If the latter is true, than it would make more sense to draw that array in then free the results, rather than include the array as a variable. Once you have it in an array you can do all sorts of things like make a > drop list, easily mark one option item "selected", or whatever. > > Topher > Manager of Internet Services > Cornerstone University Radio > > ------ > perl -e 'print join "", (map({chr(hex(/usr/bin/pine))} (shift =~ > /\w{2}/g))),"\n"' \ > 4920776973682049206B6E6577204865782E00 > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > -- In vino veritas. [In wine there is truth.] -- Pliny -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://shinobu.grlug.org/pipermail/grlug/attachments/20070925/61ab0378/attachment.htm From dond at standalelumber.com Tue Sep 25 16:38:51 2007 From: dond at standalelumber.com (Don Wood) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 16:38:51 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] editing then Burning DVD In-Reply-To: References: <46F82B61.5060302@acm.org> Message-ID: <003801c7ffb4$15206830$6f01a8c0@standalelumber.com> http://cvs.cinelerra.org/index.php Cinelerra was one that I've seen here on the mailing list recommended before. I haven't tried it personally yet. Don Wood IT Administrator Standale Lumber 616.340.2383 -----Original Message----- From: grlug-bounces at grlug.org [mailto:grlug-bounces at grlug.org] On Behalf Of Benjamin Flanders Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 3:06 PM To: rlauzon at acm.org; grlug at grlug.org Subject: Re: [GRLUG] editing then Burning DVD Thank you Ron. Tovid looks like an easy way to create DVD's from videos. Interesting that while it is a command line program, it seems that it is easier to use than the GUI programs I was trying to use. This should solve my creating DVD's issues. Now the issue of editing the .mpg files. Anyone have luck chopping up a video. What programs did you use. -- Share and Enjoy On 9/24/07, Ron Lauzon wrote: > Benjamin Flanders wrote: > > Does anyone have any experience editing .mpgs then burning them onto > > DVD for playback on a standalone dvd player? > > > > Ya. Just did it today with the videos from the event I went to Sunday. > > There's a really good O'Reilly book called Linux Multimedia Hacks. One > of the authors came to Penguicon a couple years ago and did a demonstration. > > You need: > tovid - a set of tools that will re-encode your videos into the format > that DVD players want > dvdstyler - Lets you create menus and such and will create the ISO to burn. > > -- > Ron Lauzon - rlauzon at acm dot org > Homepage: http://7lauzon.home.comcast.net/ > Weblog: http://ronsapartment.blogspot.com/ > > DNRC: Lord of All Things That Are Fattening > > "To be sure, conservative radio talk show hosts have a built-in > audience unavailable to liberals: People driving cars to some > sort of job." - Ann Coulter > > Microsoft Free since July 06, 2001 > Running Mandriva Linux 2007 > > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > _______________________________________________ grlug mailing list grlug at grlug.org http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug From rlauzon at gmail.com Tue Sep 25 16:49:58 2007 From: rlauzon at gmail.com (Ron Lauzon) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 16:49:58 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] editing then Burning DVD In-Reply-To: References: <46F82B61.5060302@acm.org> Message-ID: <46F97476.3000805@acm.org> Benjamin Flanders wrote: > Thank you Ron. Tovid looks like an easy way to create DVD's from > videos. Interesting that while it is a command line program, it seems > that it is easier to use than the GUI programs I was trying to use. > This should solve my creating DVD's issues. > It comes with a tovid-batch that lets you convert bunches of videos. I had about 30 small videos from my event. I just did a batch-tovid -dvd -infiles *.avi and go off and got lunch. > Now the issue of editing the .mpg files. Anyone have luck chopping up > a video. What programs did you use. > For that, I normally have them in avi format in the first place. I use avisplit to break them up and avimerge to put them back together. It's a fairly quick and simple way to remove parts I don't want and put it back together the way I want. -- Ron Lauzon - rlauzon at acm dot org Homepage: http://7lauzon.home.comcast.net/ Weblog: http://ronsapartment.blogspot.com/ DNRC: Lord of All Things That Are Fattening "To be sure, conservative radio talk show hosts have a built-in audience unavailable to liberals: People driving cars to some sort of job." - Ann Coulter Microsoft Free since July 06, 2001 Running Mandriva Linux 2007 From jjfoerch at earthlink.net Tue Sep 25 17:26:41 2007 From: jjfoerch at earthlink.net (John J Foerch) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 17:26:41 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] Programming efficiently In-Reply-To: <81e08d920709251208y1d50bb4cm946fd301381f8110@mail.gmail.com> References: <81e08d920709250748k254eb96bq6e1a83a9d4c235c8@mail.gmail.com> <81e08d920709251208y1d50bb4cm946fd301381f8110@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <18169.32017.141372.223657@localhost.localdomain> Justin Denick writes: > If I were to put all the values of the states into an array in an included > file ... > > Where are the elements of the array stored, are they held in the servers > memory, or the clients? > > So if 50 clients connect, will each store their own variables, or will the > variables be stored 50 times in the server's memory? > > If the latter is true, than it would make more sense to draw that array in > then free the results, rather than include the array as a variable. > Hi Justin, Everything in php happens serverside. Separate invocations of php have no memory sharing with each other. PHP imposes a memory usage limit of 8mb per process by default. This is the least of your worries, really, if you are writing a complex system that you intend to maintain over time. A useful perspective on programming is to consider that you are controlling complexity. The amount of typing involved to type a program is the least significant source of complexity. The code in your second method is slightly more abstract than in the first, yes, but in both, UI and business logic are mixed together. If it's a throw-away program to get a small job done, it's no big deal. If it's a larger application that you will need to maintain over time, you'll find that this style leads to very complicated programs. For example, if you need to change some aspect of the UI, you will have to go in and edit your business logic, and vice versa. Typically you would write an abstract interface for your UI, so that data from your business logic modules can be sent to it, gotten from it, etc., without their needing to know too much about its implementation details (for example, that the UI is an HTML document). To reduce the server resources dedicated to business logic, when you have a lot of client requests coming in, the general strategy is for the UI to be able to cache pages it has already made, and serve up the correct cached document whenever it can. --John Foerch From flanderb at gmail.com Tue Sep 25 19:16:46 2007 From: flanderb at gmail.com (Benjamin Flanders) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 19:16:46 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] editing then Burning DVD In-Reply-To: <46F97476.3000805@acm.org> References: <46F82B61.5060302@acm.org> <46F97476.3000805@acm.org> Message-ID: I think I found the issue with avidemux here : http://avidemux.org/admWiki/index.php?title=Editing_MPEG_capture_(DVB_or_IVTV) This explains that transmission errors are the reason for the audio drift. I am going to try this projectx later to try to fix the issues and I''l report the success/failure. On 9/25/07, Ron Lauzon wrote: > Benjamin Flanders wrote: > > Thank you Ron. Tovid looks like an easy way to create DVD's from > > videos. Interesting that while it is a command line program, it seems > > that it is easier to use than the GUI programs I was trying to use. > > This should solve my creating DVD's issues. > > > > It comes with a tovid-batch that lets you convert bunches of videos. I > had about 30 small videos from my event. I just did a > > batch-tovid -dvd -infiles *.avi > > and go off and got lunch. > > > Now the issue of editing the .mpg files. Anyone have luck chopping up > > a video. What programs did you use. > > > > For that, I normally have them in avi format in the first place. I use > avisplit to break them up and avimerge to put them back together. It's > a fairly quick and simple way to remove parts I don't want and put it > back together the way I want. > > > -- > Ron Lauzon - rlauzon at acm dot org > Homepage: http://7lauzon.home.comcast.net/ > Weblog: http://ronsapartment.blogspot.com/ > > DNRC: Lord of All Things That Are Fattening > > "To be sure, conservative radio talk show hosts have a built-in > audience unavailable to liberals: People driving cars to some > sort of job." - Ann Coulter > > Microsoft Free since July 06, 2001 > Running Mandriva Linux 2007 > > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > -- Share and Enjoy From timschmidt at gmail.com Wed Sep 26 21:44:45 2007 From: timschmidt at gmail.com (Tim Schmidt) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 21:44:45 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] Tonight's meeting Message-ID: <2c97fe9d0709261844v1be77e09lb786c78d46d53519@mail.gmail.com> The meeting was great guys. Talking with an everyday user of Rockbox was invaluable. I was pleasantly surprised at the number of manufacturing folks there. The food was great (thanks Casey!). There was some talk about a sort of LUG project... specifically Casey has some nice servers that want some processing tasks. Perhaps GRLUG could do something for next year's Penguicon (I'm the guy responsible for scheduling tech-related presentations and handling tech-related logistics)? Anyway, awesome meeting. Looking forward to the next one. :) Timothy Schmidt Director, Open Hardware Foundation http://www.openhardwarefoundation.org/ From ndrier at gmail.com Wed Sep 26 21:53:44 2007 From: ndrier at gmail.com (Nathan Drier) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 21:53:44 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] Tonight's meeting In-Reply-To: <2c97fe9d0709261844v1be77e09lb786c78d46d53519@mail.gmail.com> References: <2c97fe9d0709261844v1be77e09lb786c78d46d53519@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46FB0D28.1020604@gmail.com> I second that. A big thanks to Casey for making all the food and getting everything together! Tim Schmidt wrote: > The meeting was great guys. Talking with an everyday user of Rockbox > was invaluable. I was pleasantly surprised at the number of > manufacturing folks there. The food was great (thanks Casey!). > > There was some talk about a sort of LUG project... specifically Casey > has some nice servers that want some processing tasks. Perhaps GRLUG > could do something for next year's Penguicon (I'm the guy responsible > for scheduling tech-related presentations and handling tech-related > logistics)? > > Anyway, awesome meeting. Looking forward to the next one. :) > > Timothy Schmidt > Director, Open Hardware Foundation > http://www.openhardwarefoundation.org/ > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > > From darth_linux at ameritech.net Thu Sep 27 07:27:52 2007 From: darth_linux at ameritech.net (eah) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 07:27:52 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] Tonight's meeting In-Reply-To: <2c97fe9d0709261844v1be77e09lb786c78d46d53519@mail.gmail.com> References: <2c97fe9d0709261844v1be77e09lb786c78d46d53519@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200709270727.52583.darth_linux@ameritech.net> On Wednesday 26 September 2007 21:44:45 pm Tim Schmidt wrote: > The meeting was great guys. Talking with an everyday user of Rockbox > was invaluable. I was pleasantly surprised at the number of > manufacturing folks there. The food was great (thanks Casey!). > > There was some talk about a sort of LUG project... specifically Casey > has some nice servers that want some processing tasks. Perhaps GRLUG > could do something for next year's Penguicon (I'm the guy responsible > for scheduling tech-related presentations and handling tech-related > logistics)? > > Anyway, awesome meeting. Looking forward to the next one. :) > > Timothy Schmidt > Director, Open Hardware Foundation > http://www.openhardwarefoundation.org/ > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug here, here! that was a good meeting. maybe we should get back on track with regularly scheduled meetings. eah From thisboyiscrazy at gmail.com Thu Sep 27 08:19:41 2007 From: thisboyiscrazy at gmail.com (Joe Vanderstelt) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 08:19:41 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] Tonight's meeting In-Reply-To: <200709270727.52583.darth_linux@ameritech.net> References: <2c97fe9d0709261844v1be77e09lb786c78d46d53519@mail.gmail.com> <200709270727.52583.darth_linux@ameritech.net> Message-ID: Yes very good meeting and thanks for the food Casey. I also agree with getting back and track and regular meeting cloud greatly befit everyone. About a project it would be interesting to talk about. On 9/27/07, eah wrote: > On Wednesday 26 September 2007 21:44:45 pm Tim Schmidt wrote: > > The meeting was great guys. Talking with an everyday user of Rockbox > > was invaluable. I was pleasantly surprised at the number of > > manufacturing folks there. The food was great (thanks Casey!). > > > > There was some talk about a sort of LUG project... specifically Casey > > has some nice servers that want some processing tasks. Perhaps GRLUG > > could do something for next year's Penguicon (I'm the guy responsible > > for scheduling tech-related presentations and handling tech-related > > logistics)? > > > > Anyway, awesome meeting. Looking forward to the next one. :) > > > > Timothy Schmidt > > Director, Open Hardware Foundation > > http://www.openhardwarefoundation.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > > grlug mailing list > > grlug at grlug.org > > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > > here, here! that was a good meeting. maybe we should get back on track with > regularly scheduled meetings. > > eah > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > From darth_linux at ameritech.net Thu Sep 27 10:05:48 2007 From: darth_linux at ameritech.net (eah) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 10:05:48 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] Tonight's meeting In-Reply-To: <200709270727.52583.darth_linux@ameritech.net> References: <2c97fe9d0709261844v1be77e09lb786c78d46d53519@mail.gmail.com> <200709270727.52583.darth_linux@ameritech.net> Message-ID: <200709271005.48226.darth_linux@ameritech.net> On Thursday 27 September 2007 07:27:52 am eah wrote: > On Wednesday 26 September 2007 21:44:45 pm Tim Schmidt wrote: > > The meeting was great guys. Talking with an everyday user of Rockbox > > was invaluable. I was pleasantly surprised at the number of > > manufacturing folks there. The food was great (thanks Casey!). > > > > There was some talk about a sort of LUG project... specifically Casey > > has some nice servers that want some processing tasks. Perhaps GRLUG > > could do something for next year's Penguicon (I'm the guy responsible > > for scheduling tech-related presentations and handling tech-related > > logistics)? > > > > Anyway, awesome meeting. Looking forward to the next one. :) > > > > Timothy Schmidt > > Director, Open Hardware Foundation > > http://www.openhardwarefoundation.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > > grlug mailing list > > grlug at grlug.org > > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > > here, here! that was a good meeting. maybe we should get back on track with > regularly scheduled meetings. > > eah > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug given the number of newbies at the meeting, maybe we could have an installfest. what better time to talk about linux-compatible hardware than to install? eah From ben at eavey.com Thu Sep 27 09:54:24 2007 From: ben at eavey.com (Benjamin Eavey) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 09:54:24 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] Tonight's meeting In-Reply-To: <200709270727.52583.darth_linux@ameritech.net> References: <2c97fe9d0709261844v1be77e09lb786c78d46d53519@mail.gmail.com> <200709270727.52583.darth_linux@ameritech.net> Message-ID: <46FBB610.6030901@eavey.com> eah wrote: > here, here! that was a good meeting. maybe we should get back on track with > regularly scheduled meetings. > > eah I agree. Regularly scheduled meetings would be fantastic. If they were on an *actual* schedule (as opposed to just a last-minute gathering each month), it would be easier for people to plan on being there, too. And it's "Hear, hear!"... "hear" as in "listen". -Ben From thisboyiscrazy at gmail.com Thu Sep 27 11:11:09 2007 From: thisboyiscrazy at gmail.com (Joe Vanderstelt) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 11:11:09 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] Tonight's meeting In-Reply-To: <46FBB610.6030901@eavey.com> References: <2c97fe9d0709261844v1be77e09lb786c78d46d53519@mail.gmail.com> <200709270727.52583.darth_linux@ameritech.net> <46FBB610.6030901@eavey.com> Message-ID: Yeah i have a few computer I would like to try installing Gibon. Work computer - installer for feisty did not work out of the box (piix_sata issue) Laptop - always fun to try and get working correctly Home server - just needs to be updated (xubuntu maybe) Mythtv box - is mythbuntu getting released with Gibon? On 9/27/07, Benjamin Eavey wrote: > eah wrote: > > here, here! that was a good meeting. maybe we should get back on track with > > regularly scheduled meetings. > > > > eah > > I agree. Regularly scheduled meetings would be fantastic. If they were > on an *actual* schedule (as opposed to just a last-minute gathering each > month), it would be easier for people to plan on being there, too. > > And it's "Hear, hear!"... "hear" as in "listen". > > -Ben > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > From mzuverink at gmail.com Thu Sep 27 11:16:16 2007 From: mzuverink at gmail.com (Marc Zuverink) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 11:16:16 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] Tonight's meeting In-Reply-To: References: <2c97fe9d0709261844v1be77e09lb786c78d46d53519@mail.gmail.com> <200709270727.52583.darth_linux@ameritech.net> <46FBB610.6030901@eavey.com> Message-ID: <46FBC940.4060608@gmail.com> Joe Vanderstelt wrote: > Yeah i have a few computer I would like to try installing Gibon. > > Work computer - installer for feisty did not work out of the box > (piix_sata issue) > Laptop - always fun to try and get working correctly > Home server - just needs to be updated (xubuntu maybe) > Mythtv box - is mythbuntu getting released with Gibon? > > On 9/27/07, Benjamin Eavey wrote: > >> eah wrote: >> >>> here, here! that was a good meeting. maybe we should get back on track with >>> regularly scheduled meetings. >>> >>> eah >>> >> I agree. Regularly scheduled meetings would be fantastic. If they were >> on an *actual* schedule (as opposed to just a last-minute gathering each >> month), it would be easier for people to plan on being there, too. >> >> And it's "Hear, hear!"... "hear" as in "listen". >> >> -Ben >> _______________________________________________ >> grlug mailing list >> grlug at grlug.org >> http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug >> >> > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > > With that company stopping releasing the myth tv listing, looks like Myth is soon to be dead in the water, look a few days back in Slashdot for details -- Marc Zuverink I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. -Hunter S. Thompson From thisboyiscrazy at gmail.com Thu Sep 27 11:25:03 2007 From: thisboyiscrazy at gmail.com (Joe Vanderstelt) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 11:25:03 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] Tonight's meeting In-Reply-To: <46FBC940.4060608@gmail.com> References: <2c97fe9d0709261844v1be77e09lb786c78d46d53519@mail.gmail.com> <200709270727.52583.darth_linux@ameritech.net> <46FBB610.6030901@eavey.com> <46FBC940.4060608@gmail.com> Message-ID: Yeah, Zap2it labs stopped providing free listings. I switch over to Schedule Direct ($15 / 6 month) works great. A fully loaded mythtv system still blows a TiVo away. I'm also looking into LinuxMCE (kubuntu based) / Pluto Home if I can get LinuxMCE to work with my Wii remote and my equipment mess (you never have enough inputs). On 9/27/07, Marc Zuverink wrote: > Joe Vanderstelt wrote: > > Yeah i have a few computer I would like to try installing Gibon. > > > > Work computer - installer for feisty did not work out of the box > > (piix_sata issue) > > Laptop - always fun to try and get working correctly > > Home server - just needs to be updated (xubuntu maybe) > > Mythtv box - is mythbuntu getting released with Gibon? > > > > On 9/27/07, Benjamin Eavey wrote: > > > >> eah wrote: > >> > >>> here, here! that was a good meeting. maybe we should get back on track with > >>> regularly scheduled meetings. > >>> > >>> eah > >>> > >> I agree. Regularly scheduled meetings would be fantastic. If they were > >> on an *actual* schedule (as opposed to just a last-minute gathering each > >> month), it would be easier for people to plan on being there, too. > >> > >> And it's "Hear, hear!"... "hear" as in "listen". > >> > >> -Ben > >> _______________________________________________ > >> grlug mailing list > >> grlug at grlug.org > >> http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > >> > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > grlug mailing list > > grlug at grlug.org > > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > > > > > With that company stopping releasing the myth tv listing, looks like > Myth is soon to be dead in the water, look a few days back in Slashdot > for details > > -- > Marc Zuverink > > I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. > -Hunter S. Thompson > > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > From cdubois at n-vint.com Thu Sep 27 12:12:23 2007 From: cdubois at n-vint.com (Casey DuBois) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 12:12:23 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] LUG Meetings Message-ID: <9F172CF1A5341F4F989A2A1414D5966916A951FC@NVMBX01.nvint.local> Hello all LUGGERS, I am all in for an install fest, and for hosting more meetings. The WMLUG meetings are the last Thursday of every month so how about setting the 2nd Thursday of every month for a regular meeting date? 6-8PM on the following dates October 11 Topic: "Install Fest - I will Laptops and Desktops available but feel free to bring any hardware you would like - I'd like to see RockBox working on an iPod" November 8 Topic: "TBA - any suggestions?" December 13 Topic: "TBA - any suggestions?" I will also get to work on my list of Computer parts that are too good to throw and may be of interest to my fellow LUGGERS @ NO CHARGE. Is this something we can post on GRLUG.org and WMLUG.org or should we just keep a spreadsheet? Thank You for all who attended and made yesterday's meeting great. Sincerely, Casey M. DuBois N-VINT, Inc. 3240 Hanna Lake Industrial Park Dr. SE, Caledonia, MI 49316 616-656-5500 Office 866-337-2686 Direct AOL IM: CaseyNVINT cdubois at n-vint.com "I think there is a world market for maybe five computers." - Thomas John Watson - IBM From brousch at gmail.com Thu Sep 27 14:00:39 2007 From: brousch at gmail.com (Ben Rousch) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 14:00:39 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] LUG Meetings In-Reply-To: <9F172CF1A5341F4F989A2A1414D5966916A951FC@NVMBX01.nvint.local> References: <9F172CF1A5341F4F989A2A1414D5966916A951FC@NVMBX01.nvint.local> Message-ID: > > I will also get to work on my list of Computer parts that are too good to > throw and may be of interest to my fellow LUGGERS @ NO CHARGE. Is this > something we can post on GRLUG.org and WMLUG.org or should we just keep a > spreadsheet? I would think the parts list would work well on the wiki. I really hope to make one of the Thursday meetings. I feel so anti-social after lurking on this list for a year or so and not having met anyone. Thank You for all who attended and made yesterday's meeting great. > > Sincerely, > Casey M. DuBois > N-VINT, Inc. > 3240 Hanna Lake Industrial Park Dr. SE, Caledonia, MI 49316 > 616-656-5500 Office > 866-337-2686 Direct > AOL IM: CaseyNVINT > cdubois at n-vint.com > > "I think there is a world market for maybe five computers." > - Thomas John Watson - IBM > > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://shinobu.grlug.org/pipermail/grlug/attachments/20070927/cd123a61/attachment.htm From thisboyiscrazy at gmail.com Thu Sep 27 14:45:34 2007 From: thisboyiscrazy at gmail.com (Joe Vanderstelt) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 14:45:34 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] LUG Meetings In-Reply-To: References: <9F172CF1A5341F4F989A2A1414D5966916A951FC@NVMBX01.nvint.local> Message-ID: Not that I matter a hole lot, but for the next 13 weeks Thursdays I will unavalible. On 9/27/07, Ben Rousch wrote: > > > > I will also get to work on my list of Computer parts that are too good to > throw and may be of interest to my fellow LUGGERS @ NO CHARGE. Is this > something we can post on GRLUG.org and WMLUG.org or should we just keep a > spreadsheet? > > > > > I would think the parts list would work well on the wiki. > > I really hope to make one of the Thursday meetings. I feel so anti-social > after lurking on this list for a year or so and not having met anyone. > > > Thank You for all who attended and made yesterday's meeting great. > > > > Sincerely, > > Casey M. DuBois > > N-VINT, Inc. > > 3240 Hanna Lake Industrial Park Dr. SE, Caledonia, MI 49316 > > 616-656-5500 Office > > 866-337-2686 Direct > > AOL IM: CaseyNVINT > > cdubois at n-vint.com > > > > "I think there is a world market for maybe five computers." > > - Thomas John Watson - IBM > > > > _______________________________________________ > > grlug mailing list > > grlug at grlug.org > > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > From cdubois at n-vint.com Thu Sep 27 14:50:01 2007 From: cdubois at n-vint.com (Casey DuBois) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 14:50:01 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] LUG Meetings In-Reply-To: References: <9F172CF1A5341F4F989A2A1414D5966916A951FC@NVMBX01.nvint.local> Message-ID: <9F172CF1A5341F4F989A2A1414D5966916A9521D@NVMBX01.nvint.local> Well it does not have to be Thursday. And it does not have to be the 2nd week. I am willing to work around your schedule. Anyone else have input????? Casey -----Original Message----- From: Joe Vanderstelt [mailto:thisboyiscrazy at gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 2:46 PM To: grlug at grlug.org Subject: Re: [GRLUG] LUG Meetings Not that I matter a hole lot, but for the next 13 weeks Thursdays I will unavalible. On 9/27/07, Ben Rousch wrote: > > > > I will also get to work on my list of Computer parts that are too good to > throw and may be of interest to my fellow LUGGERS @ NO CHARGE. Is this > something we can post on GRLUG.org and WMLUG.org or should we just keep a > spreadsheet? > > > > > I would think the parts list would work well on the wiki. > > I really hope to make one of the Thursday meetings. I feel so anti-social > after lurking on this list for a year or so and not having met anyone. > > > Thank You for all who attended and made yesterday's meeting great. > > > > Sincerely, > > Casey M. DuBois > > N-VINT, Inc. > > 3240 Hanna Lake Industrial Park Dr. SE, Caledonia, MI 49316 > > 616-656-5500 Office > > 866-337-2686 Direct > > AOL IM: CaseyNVINT > > cdubois at n-vint.com > > > > "I think there is a world market for maybe five computers." > > - Thomas John Watson - IBM > > > > _______________________________________________ > > grlug mailing list > > grlug at grlug.org > > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > _______________________________________________ grlug mailing list grlug at grlug.org http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug From brousch at gmail.com Thu Sep 27 14:57:07 2007 From: brousch at gmail.com (Ben Rousch) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 14:57:07 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] LUG Meetings In-Reply-To: <9F172CF1A5341F4F989A2A1414D5966916A9521D@NVMBX01.nvint.local> References: <9F172CF1A5341F4F989A2A1414D5966916A951FC@NVMBX01.nvint.local> <9F172CF1A5341F4F989A2A1414D5966916A9521D@NVMBX01.nvint.local> Message-ID: I'm sure each night is a bad night for someone, so why not move it around between a couple of different days? Maybe Thursday one meeting and Monday the next meeting. It might be harder to keep track of, but I'm sure we're all using some sort of iCal compliant calendar by now, right? We just need to throw a calendar up and have people subscribe to it. On 9/27/07, Casey DuBois wrote: > > Well it does not have to be Thursday. > And it does not have to be the 2nd week. > I am willing to work around your schedule. > Anyone else have input????? > Casey > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joe Vanderstelt [mailto:thisboyiscrazy at gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 2:46 PM > To: grlug at grlug.org > Subject: Re: [GRLUG] LUG Meetings > > Not that I matter a hole lot, but for the next 13 weeks Thursdays I > will unavalible. > > On 9/27/07, Ben Rousch wrote: > > > > > > > I will also get to work on my list of Computer parts that are too good > to > > throw and may be of interest to my fellow LUGGERS @ NO CHARGE. Is this > > something we can post on GRLUG.org and WMLUG.org or should we just keep > a > > spreadsheet? > > > > > > > > > > I would think the parts list would work well on the wiki. > > > > I really hope to make one of the Thursday meetings. I feel so > anti-social > > after lurking on this list for a year or so and not having met anyone. > > > > > Thank You for all who attended and made yesterday's meeting great. > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > Casey M. DuBois > > > N-VINT, Inc. > > > 3240 Hanna Lake Industrial Park Dr. SE, Caledonia, MI 49316 > > > 616-656-5500 Office > > > 866-337-2686 Direct > > > AOL IM: CaseyNVINT > > > cdubois at n-vint.com > > > > > > "I think there is a world market for maybe five computers." > > > - Thomas John Watson - IBM > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > grlug mailing list > > > grlug at grlug.org > > > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > grlug mailing list > > grlug at grlug.org > > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > > > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://shinobu.grlug.org/pipermail/grlug/attachments/20070927/c6fc9ea7/attachment-0001.htm From ben at eavey.com Thu Sep 27 16:04:38 2007 From: ben at eavey.com (Benjamin Eavey) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 16:04:38 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] LUG Meetings In-Reply-To: References: <9F172CF1A5341F4F989A2A1414D5966916A951FC@NVMBX01.nvint.local> <9F172CF1A5341F4F989A2A1414D5966916A9521D@NVMBX01.nvint.local> Message-ID: <46FC0CD6.5090104@eavey.com> Ben Rousch wrote: > I'm sure we're all using some sort of iCal compliant calendar by now, > right? We just need to throw a calendar up and have people subscribe to it. Now THAT is an excellent idea! -Ben From darth_linux at ameritech.net Thu Sep 27 19:25:30 2007 From: darth_linux at ameritech.net (eah) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 19:25:30 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] LUG Meetings In-Reply-To: References: <9F172CF1A5341F4F989A2A1414D5966916A951FC@NVMBX01.nvint.local> <9F172CF1A5341F4F989A2A1414D5966916A9521D@NVMBX01.nvint.local> Message-ID: <200709271925.30722.darth_linux@ameritech.net> On Thursday 27 September 2007 14:57:07 pm Ben Rousch wrote: > I'm sure each night is a bad night for someone, so why not move it around > between a couple of different days? Maybe Thursday one meeting and Monday > the next meeting. It might be harder to keep track of, but I'm sure we're > all using some sort of iCal compliant calendar by now, right? We just need > to throw a calendar up and have people subscribe to it. > great idea!! eah From radiodurans at yahoo.com Fri Sep 28 23:15:53 2007 From: radiodurans at yahoo.com (John Harig) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 20:15:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GRLUG] LUG Meetings In-Reply-To: <9F172CF1A5341F4F989A2A1414D5966916A9521D@NVMBX01.nvint.local> Message-ID: <113886.49840.qm@web80411.mail.mud.yahoo.com> The meeting was great and I was overwhelmed with the amount of info being carried around in human wikipedias . . . from cantennas to duinos to openmokos. I can bring in my ipod with rockbox it?s a really easy install, not really too sure about some of the technical aspects, i just followed the instructions :). im flexible for days m-f i noticed though many people couldnt get there right at 6 like me, maybe push it back to 6:15 or 6:30? or at least the keynote presentations till then? About the grlug wiki . . . or the site i should say . . . it?s somewhat annoying in iceweasel (and probably firefox too) when you go to www.grlug.org, you start reading, and it bounces to the wiki. it reminds me of one of those russian warez sites that bounce you off to some lolita goat fetish site when you?re only trying to find megaman roms for fceu. the page looks great in lynx though! :) --- Casey DuBois wrote: > Well it does not have to be Thursday. > And it does not have to be the 2nd week. > I am willing to work around your schedule. > Anyone else have input????? > Casey > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joe Vanderstelt > [mailto:thisboyiscrazy at gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 2:46 PM > To: grlug at grlug.org > Subject: Re: [GRLUG] LUG Meetings > > Not that I matter a hole lot, but for the next 13 > weeks Thursdays I > will unavalible. > > On 9/27/07, Ben Rousch wrote: > > > > > > > I will also get to work on my list of Computer > parts that are too good to > > throw and may be of interest to my fellow LUGGERS > @ NO CHARGE. Is this > > something we can post on GRLUG.org and WMLUG.org > or should we just keep a > > spreadsheet? > > > > > > > > > > I would think the parts list would work well on > the wiki. > > > > I really hope to make one of the Thursday > meetings. I feel so anti-social > > after lurking on this list for a year or so and > not having met anyone. > > > > > Thank You for all who attended and made > yesterday's meeting great. > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > Casey M. DuBois > > > N-VINT, Inc. > > > 3240 Hanna Lake Industrial Park Dr. SE, > Caledonia, MI 49316 > > > 616-656-5500 Office > > > 866-337-2686 Direct > > > AOL IM: CaseyNVINT > > > cdubois at n-vint.com > > > > > > "I think there is a world market for maybe five > computers." > > > - Thomas John Watson - IBM > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > grlug mailing list > > > grlug at grlug.org > > > > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > grlug mailing list > > grlug at grlug.org > > > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > > > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug >