From thisboyiscrazy at gmail.com Wed Oct 3 10:16:10 2007 From: thisboyiscrazy at gmail.com (Joe Vanderstelt) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 10:16:10 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] Next meeting. Message-ID: Is there a date set for the next meeting? From darth_linux at ameritech.net Wed Oct 3 20:41:39 2007 From: darth_linux at ameritech.net (eah) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 20:41:39 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] Next meeting. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200710032041.39834.darth_linux@ameritech.net> On Wednesday 03 October 2007 10:16:10 am Joe Vanderstelt wrote: > Is there a date set for the next meeting? > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug we should set it now. do we want to compliment WMLUG meetings or just do our own thing? (more LUGs _are_ are good thing.) eah From cdubois at n-vint.com Thu Oct 4 14:37:29 2007 From: cdubois at n-vint.com (Casey DuBois) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 14:37:29 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] LUG Meeting (Install Fest) Wednesday October 10th from 6-8PM Message-ID: <9F172CF1A5341F4F989A2A1414D5966916A955A1@NVMBX01.nvint.local> Hello All, The next GRLUG meeting is set. Wednesday October 10th. From: 6-8PM Location: 3240 Hanna Lake Industrial Park Drive SE, Caledonia http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=3240+Hanna+Lake+Industrial+Park+Drive+SE,+Caledonia,+MI&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=24.455808,59.765625&ie=UTF8&ll=42.847275,-85.580063&spn=0.085205,0.159645&z=13&iwloc=addr&om=1 I am sponsoring Brats and Burgers again so please RSVP to cdubois at n-vint.com so I can make sure to have enough. After the last meeting we decided to do an install fest. I will bring my FON router some desktops and laptops to install Linux on however anyone is welcome to bring in hardware for us to play with. Also looking forward to seeing John's ipod with rockbox and maybe even installing rockbox on someone else's ipod. FYI the WMLUG meeting is the following week on Thursday the 18th for more info or to RSVP visit www.wmlug.org. Sincerely, Casey M. DuBois N-VINT, Inc. 3240 Hanna Lake Industrial Park Dr. SE, Caledonia, MI 49316 616-656-5500 Office 866-337-2686 Direct AOL IM: CaseyNVINT cdubois at n-vint.com "I think there is a world market for maybe five computers." - Thomas John Watson - IBM From driveray at ameritech.net Thu Oct 4 15:35:22 2007 From: driveray at ameritech.net (Raymond McLaughlin) Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 15:35:22 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] LUG Meeting (Install Fest) Wednesday October 10th from 6-8PM In-Reply-To: <9F172CF1A5341F4F989A2A1414D5966916A955A1@NVMBX01.nvint.local> References: <9F172CF1A5341F4F989A2A1414D5966916A955A1@NVMBX01.nvint.local> Message-ID: <4705407A.5010401@ameritech.net> Casey DuBois wrote: > Hello All, > > The next GRLUG meeting is set. > Wednesday October 10th. > From: 6-8PM > Location: 3240 Hanna Lake Industrial Park Drive SE, Caledonia > > http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=3240+Hanna+Lake+Industrial+Park+Drive+SE,+Caledonia,+MI&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=24.455808,59.765625&ie=UTF8&ll=42.847275,-85.580063&spn=0.085205,0.159645&z=13&iwloc=addr&om=1 > > I am sponsoring Brats and Burgers again so please RSVP to cdubois at n-vint.com so I can make sure to have enough. > > After the last meeting we decided to do an install fest. Sounds great, I'm hoping I can make it. I do need to comment though: Two hours isn't really enough time for an install fest if you get many takers at all. You had best be prepared to stick around till 9:00. Hardware trouble shooting can take up as much time as actual installing. Is anyone up for putting out fliers? Like at book stores & computer shops (after first getting permission, of course). If you'd like, you're free to modify the flier from here: or make your own. Maybe a "Had enough of VISTA yet?" theme would be good. Just suggesting Raymond McLaughlin From mikemol at gmail.com Thu Oct 4 15:53:39 2007 From: mikemol at gmail.com (Michael Mol) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 15:53:39 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] LUG Meeting (Install Fest) Wednesday October 10th from 6-8PM In-Reply-To: <4705407A.5010401@ameritech.net> References: <9F172CF1A5341F4F989A2A1414D5966916A955A1@NVMBX01.nvint.local> <4705407A.5010401@ameritech.net> Message-ID: On 10/4/07, Raymond McLaughlin wrote: > Is anyone up for putting out fliers? Like at book stores & computer > shops (after first getting permission, of course). If you'd like, you're > free to modify the flier from here: > or make your own. Maybe a > "Had enough of VISTA yet?" theme would be good. Ping the GRCC Computer Club over at grc4.org. They do a monthly all-day PC Clinic. Some, at least, might be interested in helping with an extended-duration installfest. You can probably get fliers up around GRCC, if the event is cosponsored by the computer club. -- :wq From mzuverink at gmail.com Thu Oct 4 15:59:21 2007 From: mzuverink at gmail.com (Marc Zuverink) Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 15:59:21 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] LUG Meeting (Install Fest) Wednesday October 10th from 6-8PM In-Reply-To: <9F172CF1A5341F4F989A2A1414D5966916A955A1@NVMBX01.nvint.local> References: <9F172CF1A5341F4F989A2A1414D5966916A955A1@NVMBX01.nvint.local> Message-ID: <47054619.4060405@gmail.com> Casey DuBois wrote: > Hello All, > > The next GRLUG meeting is set. > Wednesday October 10th. > From: 6-8PM > Location: 3240 Hanna Lake Industrial Park Drive SE, Caledonia > > http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=3240+Hanna+Lake+Industrial+Park+Drive+SE,+Caledonia,+MI&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=24.455808,59.765625&ie=UTF8&ll=42.847275,-85.580063&spn=0.085205,0.159645&z=13&iwloc=addr&om=1 > > I am sponsoring Brats and Burgers again so please RSVP to cdubois at n-vint.com so I can make sure to have enough. > > After the last meeting we decided to do an install fest. > > I will bring my FON router some desktops and laptops to install Linux on however anyone is welcome to bring in hardware for us to play with. > Also looking forward to seeing John's ipod with rockbox and maybe even installing rockbox on someone else's ipod. > > FYI the WMLUG meeting is the following week on Thursday the 18th for more info or to RSVP visit www.wmlug.org. > > Sincerely, > Casey M. DuBois > N-VINT, Inc. > 3240 Hanna Lake Industrial Park Dr. SE, Caledonia, MI 49316 > 616-656-5500 Office > 866-337-2686 Direct > AOL IM: CaseyNVINT > cdubois at n-vint.com > > "I think there is a world market for maybe five computers." > - Thomas John Watson - IBM > > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > Ive got an old ipod which is capable of running iopd linux, interested in installing that on it, plus I too have a 5th generation iPod with rockbox on it. We can have all kinds of fun. Is this install fest in anyway timed with the new Ubuntu Release? It so, being the Ubuntu-LoCo for Western MI contact person I could maybe bring some shwag if it gets here in time and people are able to cover costs. Additionally, anyone going to this meeting from the Holland area, I would like to ride share. -- Marc Zuverink "Microsoft isn't evil, they just make really crappy operating systems." -Linus Torvalds From cdubois at n-vint.com Thu Oct 4 16:14:37 2007 From: cdubois at n-vint.com (Casey DuBois) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 16:14:37 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] LUG Meeting (Install Fest) Wednesday October 10th from 6-8PM In-Reply-To: <4705407A.5010401@ameritech.net> References: <9F172CF1A5341F4F989A2A1414D5966916A955A1@NVMBX01.nvint.local> <4705407A.5010401@ameritech.net> Message-ID: <9F172CF1A5341F4F989A2A1414D5966916A955C3@NVMBX01.nvint.local> No problem with going till 9 or later. Casey -----Original Message----- From: Raymond McLaughlin [mailto:driveray at ameritech.net] Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 3:35 PM To: grlug at grlug.org Subject: Re: [GRLUG] LUG Meeting (Install Fest) Wednesday October 10th from 6-8PM Casey DuBois wrote: > Hello All, > > The next GRLUG meeting is set. > Wednesday October 10th. > From: 6-8PM > Location: 3240 Hanna Lake Industrial Park Drive SE, Caledonia > > http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=3240+Hanna+Lake+Industrial+Park+Drive+SE,+Caledonia,+MI&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=24.455808,59.765625&ie=UTF8&ll=42.847275,-85.580063&spn=0.085205,0.159645&z=13&iwloc=addr&om=1 > > I am sponsoring Brats and Burgers again so please RSVP to cdubois at n-vint.com so I can make sure to have enough. > > After the last meeting we decided to do an install fest. Sounds great, I'm hoping I can make it. I do need to comment though: Two hours isn't really enough time for an install fest if you get many takers at all. You had best be prepared to stick around till 9:00. Hardware trouble shooting can take up as much time as actual installing. Is anyone up for putting out fliers? Like at book stores & computer shops (after first getting permission, of course). If you'd like, you're free to modify the flier from here: or make your own. Maybe a "Had enough of VISTA yet?" theme would be good. Just suggesting Raymond McLaughlin _______________________________________________ grlug mailing list grlug at grlug.org http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug From matt at michielsen.us Thu Oct 4 16:14:57 2007 From: matt at michielsen.us (Matt Michielsen) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 16:14:57 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] LUG Meeting (Install Fest) Wednesday October 10th from 6-8PM In-Reply-To: <47054619.4060405@gmail.com> References: <9F172CF1A5341F4F989A2A1414D5966916A955A1@NVMBX01.nvint.local> <47054619.4060405@gmail.com> Message-ID: I'll be coming from Zeeland, so we could probably work something out. My car only has two human-size seats, so if there are more interested from the area someone else would have to drive. -mm On 10/4/07, Marc Zuverink wrote: > > Casey DuBois wrote: > > Hello All, > > > > The next GRLUG meeting is set. > > Wednesday October 10th. > > From: 6-8PM > > Location: 3240 Hanna Lake Industrial Park Drive SE, Caledonia > > > > > http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=3240+Hanna+Lake+Industrial+Park+Drive+SE,+Caledonia,+MI&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=24.455808,59.765625&ie=UTF8&ll=42.847275,-85.580063&spn=0.085205,0.159645&z=13&iwloc=addr&om=1 > > > > I am sponsoring Brats and Burgers again so please RSVP to > cdubois at n-vint.com so I can make sure to have enough. > > > > After the last meeting we decided to do an install fest. > > > > I will bring my FON router some desktops and laptops to install Linux on > however anyone is welcome to bring in hardware for us to play with. > > Also looking forward to seeing John's ipod with rockbox and maybe even > installing rockbox on someone else's ipod. > > > > FYI the WMLUG meeting is the following week on Thursday the 18th for > more info or to RSVP visit www.wmlug.org. > > > > Sincerely, > > Casey M. DuBois > > N-VINT, Inc. > > 3240 Hanna Lake Industrial Park Dr. SE, Caledonia, MI 49316 > > 616-656-5500 Office > > 866-337-2686 Direct > > AOL IM: CaseyNVINT > > cdubois at n-vint.com > > > > "I think there is a world market for maybe five computers." > > - Thomas John Watson - IBM > > > > _______________________________________________ > > grlug mailing list > > grlug at grlug.org > > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > > > > Ive got an old ipod which is capable of running iopd linux, interested > in installing that on it, plus I too have a 5th generation iPod with > rockbox on it. We can have all kinds of fun. > > Is this install fest in anyway timed with the new Ubuntu Release? It > so, being the Ubuntu-LoCo for Western MI contact person I could maybe > bring some shwag if it gets here in time and people are able to cover > costs. > > Additionally, anyone going to this meeting from the Holland area, I > would like to ride share. > > -- > Marc Zuverink > > "Microsoft isn't evil, they just make really crappy operating systems." > -Linus Torvalds > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://shinobu.grlug.org/pipermail/grlug/attachments/20071004/db968c8b/attachment-0001.htm From darth_linux at ameritech.net Thu Oct 4 18:10:36 2007 From: darth_linux at ameritech.net (eah) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 18:10:36 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] ATI drivers Linux x86_64 distros Message-ID: <200710041810.36207.darth_linux@ameritech.net> Hi everyone. Has anyone had luck with 64-bit Linux and ATI's drivers? I'm still running Fedora6 since Fedora7 isn't quite compatible with ATI's 8.4x drivers. (Fedora6 uses 8.39 driver). My videocard is the Radeon Xpress 200M. I know several of you use *buntu. Has anyone using Gutsy put it on a 64-bit system? What luck have you had in general (and with ATI specifically.) I'm always open to switching Linux distros. Has anyone who might be using a similar videocard experienced Fedora8? thanks, eah From bob.kline at gmail.com Thu Oct 4 18:34:48 2007 From: bob.kline at gmail.com (Bob Kline) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 18:34:48 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] ATI drivers Linux x86_64 distros In-Reply-To: <200710041810.36207.darth_linux@ameritech.net> References: <200710041810.36207.darth_linux@ameritech.net> Message-ID: I have Ubuntu 7.04 running on a 64-bit Acer 5000 series laptop. Everything works, including the wireless, which apparently sometimes causes snags. -Bob On 10/4/07, eah wrote: > > Hi everyone. > > Has anyone had luck with 64-bit Linux and ATI's drivers? I'm still running > Fedora6 since Fedora7 isn't quite compatible with ATI's 8.4x drivers. > (Fedora6 uses 8.39 driver). My videocard is the Radeon Xpress 200M. > > I know several of you use *buntu. Has anyone using Gutsy put it on a > 64-bit > system? What luck have you had in general (and with ATI specifically.) > I'm always open to switching Linux distros. > > Has anyone who might be using a similar videocard experienced Fedora8? > > thanks, > > eah > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://shinobu.grlug.org/pipermail/grlug/attachments/20071004/34c9eb89/attachment.htm From thisboyiscrazy at gmail.com Fri Oct 5 09:31:31 2007 From: thisboyiscrazy at gmail.com (Joe Vanderstelt) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 09:31:31 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] LUG Meeting (Install Fest) Wednesday October 10th from 6-8PM In-Reply-To: <47054619.4060405@gmail.com> References: <9F172CF1A5341F4F989A2A1414D5966916A955A1@NVMBX01.nvint.local> <47054619.4060405@gmail.com> Message-ID: Isn't the release date for gusty Oct 18? I have a few machines that I would like to install ubuntu / xubuntu on. but i would rather wait until after the finial release. > Is this install fest in anyway timed with the new Ubuntu Release? It > so, being the Ubuntu-LoCo for Western MI contact person I could maybe > bring some shwag if it gets here in time and people are able to cover costs. From mzuverink at gmail.com Fri Oct 5 11:01:05 2007 From: mzuverink at gmail.com (Marc Zuverink) Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2007 11:01:05 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] LUG Meeting (Install Fest) Wednesday October 10th from 6-8PM In-Reply-To: References: <9F172CF1A5341F4F989A2A1414D5966916A955A1@NVMBX01.nvint.local> <47054619.4060405@gmail.com> Message-ID: <470651B1.60607@gmail.com> Joe Vanderstelt wrote: > Isn't the release date for gusty Oct 18? > > I have a few machines that I would like to install ubuntu / xubuntu > on. but i would rather wait until after the finial release. > >> Is this install fest in anyway timed with the new Ubuntu Release? It >> so, being the Ubuntu-LoCo for Western MI contact person I could maybe >> bring some shwag if it gets here in time and people are able to cover costs. > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > Yes it is the 18th of so. I am planning a Gusty Release Party and Install Fest and BBQ some time late Oct or first week of Nov at my home in Holland. More info to follow, and I will have some Ubuntu shwag for sale as well. You invited, just watch the list for details. -- Marc Zuverink "Microsoft isn't evil, they just make really crappy operating systems." -Linus Torvalds From thisboyiscrazy at gmail.com Fri Oct 5 14:20:32 2007 From: thisboyiscrazy at gmail.com (Joe Vanderstelt) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 14:20:32 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] linux in 32 Megs Message-ID: I have an old sony vaio i'd would to bring some life back into, any know of a good distro that runs in 32meg? From mzuverink at gmail.com Fri Oct 5 14:24:19 2007 From: mzuverink at gmail.com (Marc Zuverink) Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2007 14:24:19 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] linux in 32 Megs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47068153.5080704@gmail.com> Joe Vanderstelt wrote: > I have an old sony vaio i'd would to bring some life back into, any > know of a good distro that runs in 32meg? > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > Ram right? DSL comes to mind. -- Marc Zuverink "Microsoft isn't evil, they just make really crappy operating systems." -Linus Torvalds From fusion at darktech.org Fri Oct 5 14:36:58 2007 From: fusion at darktech.org (Alexander Grotewohl) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 14:36:58 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] linux in 32 Megs In-Reply-To: <47068153.5080704@gmail.com> References: <47068153.5080704@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20071005183658.GA3119@atlantis> slackware? :) i think anything could be coerced into running in 32mb.. On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 02:24:19PM -0400, Marc Zuverink wrote: > Joe Vanderstelt wrote: > > I have an old sony vaio i'd would to bring some life back into, any > > know of a good distro that runs in 32meg? > > _______________________________________________ > > grlug mailing list > > grlug at grlug.org > > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > > > > Ram right? > DSL comes to mind. > > -- > Marc Zuverink > > "Microsoft isn't evil, they just make really crappy operating systems." > -Linus Torvalds > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug From timschmidt at gmail.com Fri Oct 5 14:45:07 2007 From: timschmidt at gmail.com (Tim Schmidt) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 14:45:07 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] linux in 32 Megs In-Reply-To: <20071005183658.GA3119@atlantis> References: <47068153.5080704@gmail.com> <20071005183658.GA3119@atlantis> Message-ID: <2c97fe9d0710051145j793fa9a4x4128d9a266c0aaed@mail.gmail.com> On 10/5/07, Alexander Grotewohl wrote: > slackware? :) > > i think anything could be coerced into running in 32mb.. I run Debian for Mips32 in 32Mb every day... and I've run i386 debian in 48Mb. It was mostly usable as a desktop with WindowMaker. At least Firefox ran. --tim From mzuverink at gmail.com Fri Oct 5 14:47:22 2007 From: mzuverink at gmail.com (Marc Zuverink) Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2007 14:47:22 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] linux in 32 Megs In-Reply-To: <20071005183658.GA3119@atlantis> References: <47068153.5080704@gmail.com> <20071005183658.GA3119@atlantis> Message-ID: <470686BA.9090904@gmail.com> Alexander Grotewohl wrote: > slackware? :) > > i think anything could be coerced into running in 32mb.. > > A base sys w/ no gui should run in as low as 4 megs. -- Marc Zuverink "Microsoft isn't evil, they just make really crappy operating systems." -Linus Torvalds From mzuverink at gmail.com Fri Oct 5 14:51:53 2007 From: mzuverink at gmail.com (Marc Zuverink) Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2007 14:51:53 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] linux in 32 Megs In-Reply-To: <2c97fe9d0710051145j793fa9a4x4128d9a266c0aaed@mail.gmail.com> References: <47068153.5080704@gmail.com> <20071005183658.GA3119@atlantis> <2c97fe9d0710051145j793fa9a4x4128d9a266c0aaed@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <470687C9.8000801@gmail.com> Tim Schmidt wrote: > On 10/5/07, Alexander Grotewohl wrote: >> slackware? :) >> >> i think anything could be coerced into running in 32mb.. > > I run Debian for Mips32 in 32Mb every day... and I've run i386 debian > in 48Mb. It was mostly usable as a desktop with WindowMaker. At > least Firefox ran. > > --tim > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/ I use this on a old Zenith portable 486 in my garage, it only has 16 megs of ram, decent gui for what you are using. Very usable actually. Even plays nice and allows a buffalo wifi card. -- Marc Zuverink "Microsoft isn't evil, they just make really crappy operating systems." -Linus Torvalds From thisboyiscrazy at gmail.com Fri Oct 5 14:57:18 2007 From: thisboyiscrazy at gmail.com (Joe Vanderstelt) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 14:57:18 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] linux in 32 Megs In-Reply-To: <470687C9.8000801@gmail.com> References: <47068153.5080704@gmail.com> <20071005183658.GA3119@atlantis> <2c97fe9d0710051145j793fa9a4x4128d9a266c0aaed@mail.gmail.com> <470687C9.8000801@gmail.com> Message-ID: Let me clearify: 32 Megs. RAM and I'm looking for a usable desktop (replacing windows 95 that was on there) I tried puppy, it didn't want to install my next step is DSL Thanks for the quick responces On 10/5/07, Marc Zuverink wrote: > Tim Schmidt wrote: > > On 10/5/07, Alexander Grotewohl wrote: > >> slackware? :) > >> > >> i think anything could be coerced into running in 32mb.. > > > > I run Debian for Mips32 in 32Mb every day... and I've run i386 debian > > in 48Mb. It was mostly usable as a desktop with WindowMaker. At > > least Firefox ran. > > > > --tim > > _______________________________________________ > > grlug mailing list > > grlug at grlug.org > > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > > > > http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/ > > I use this on a old Zenith portable 486 in my garage, it only has 16 > megs of ram, decent gui for what you are using. Very usable actually. > Even plays nice and allows a buffalo wifi card. > > > -- > Marc Zuverink > > "Microsoft isn't evil, they just make really crappy operating systems." > -Linus Torvalds > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > From timschmidt at gmail.com Fri Oct 5 15:09:46 2007 From: timschmidt at gmail.com (Tim Schmidt) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 15:09:46 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] linux in 32 Megs In-Reply-To: <470686BA.9090904@gmail.com> References: <47068153.5080704@gmail.com> <20071005183658.GA3119@atlantis> <470686BA.9090904@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2c97fe9d0710051209g10e29bbaj17f090aabaf1722c@mail.gmail.com> On 10/5/07, Marc Zuverink wrote: > A base sys w/ no gui should run in as low as 4 megs. These days, only if you compile your own kernel. A line from dmesg on Ubuntu 7.04 on my current desktop: Memory: 1287380k/1310144k available (1993k kernel code, 21504k reserved, 900k data, 328k init, 392640k highmem) 22Mb used on startup just by the kernel and various buffers. It'd probably use less if it didn't have 1280Mb of ram to manage, but general-purpose distributor kernels have long outgrown 4Mb of ram. --tim From radiodurans at yahoo.com Sat Oct 6 22:17:06 2007 From: radiodurans at yahoo.com (John Harig) Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 19:17:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GRLUG] LUG Meeting (Install Fest) Wednesday October 10th from 6-8PM In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <157669.45072.qm@web80401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> yes it is Oct 18. if someone can download it and mirror it for the installfest that would be cool! WMLUG is having an installfest Oct 18 . . . ive been running gutsy since tribe 5 and they have a ways to go even as of today...but i think they work round the clock the last week to get it up to par. . . Oct 10 is far too early :). ill probably try reinstalling it with all the broken stuff so far. When is the next GRLUG meeting? --- Joe Vanderstelt wrote: > Isn't the release date for gusty Oct 18? > > I have a few machines that I would like to install > ubuntu / xubuntu > on. but i would rather wait until after the finial > release. > > > Is this install fest in anyway timed with the new > Ubuntu Release? It > > so, being the Ubuntu-LoCo for Western MI contact > person I could maybe > > bring some shwag if it gets here in time and > people are able to cover costs. > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > From cdubois at n-vint.com Mon Oct 8 11:23:23 2007 From: cdubois at n-vint.com (Casey DuBois) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 11:23:23 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] ** Reminder LUG Meeting (Install Fest) THIS WEEK Wednesday October 10th from 6-8PM Message-ID: <9F172CF1A5341F4F989A2A1414D5966916A956E0@NVMBX01.nvint.local> *** Reminder Hello All, The next GRLUG meeting is set. Wednesday October 10th. From: 6-8PM Location: 3240 Hanna Lake Industrial Park Drive SE, Caledonia http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=3240+Hanna+Lake+Industrial+Park+Drive+SE,+Caledonia,+MI&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=24.455808,59.765625&ie=UTF8&ll=42.847275,-85.580063&spn=0.085205,0.159645&z=13&iwloc=addr&om=1 I am sponsoring Brats and Burgers again so please RSVP to cdubois at n-vint.com so I can make sure to have enough. After the last meeting we decided to do an install fest. I will bring my FON router some desktops and laptops to install Linux on however anyone is welcome to bring in hardware for us to play with. Also looking forward to seeing John's ipod with rockbox and maybe even installing rockbox on someone else's ipod. FYI the WMLUG meeting is the following week on Thursday the 18th for more info or to RSVP visit www.wmlug.org. Sincerely, Casey M. DuBois N-VINT, Inc. 3240 Hanna Lake Industrial Park Dr. SE, Caledonia, MI 49316 616-656-5500 Office 866-337-2686 Direct AOL IM: CaseyNVINT cdubois at n-vint.com From cdubois at n-vint.com Mon Oct 8 14:08:56 2007 From: cdubois at n-vint.com (Casey DuBois) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 14:08:56 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] Need copy of RHEL 4 Message-ID: <9F172CF1A5341F4F989A2A1414D5966916A9570D@NVMBX01.nvint.local> I need a copy of RHEL 4 to test on a system. Any suggestions where I can get it? Sincerely, Casey M. DuBois N-VINT, Inc. 3240 Hanna Lake Industrial Park Dr. SE, Caledonia, MI 49316 616-656-5500 Office 866-337-2686 Direct AOL IM: CaseyNVINT cdubois at n-vint.com "I think there is a world market for maybe five computers." - Thomas John Watson - IBM -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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DuBois* > > *N-VINT, Inc.* > > 3240 Hanna Lake Industrial Park Dr. SE, Caledonia, MI 49316 > > 616-656-5500 Office > > *866-337-2686* Direct > > *AOL IM: CaseyNVINT* > > cdubois at n-vint.com** > > > > "I think there is a world market for maybe five computers." > > - Thomas John Watson - IBM > > > > > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://shinobu.grlug.org/pipermail/grlug/attachments/20071008/ce06eff5/attachment-0001.htm From mzuverink at gmail.com Mon Oct 8 14:36:34 2007 From: mzuverink at gmail.com (Marc Zuverink) Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 14:36:34 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] Need copy of RHEL 4 In-Reply-To: References: <9F172CF1A5341F4F989A2A1414D5966916A9570D@NVMBX01.nvint.local> Message-ID: <470A78B2.40702@gmail.com> Ben Rousch wrote: > http://www.centos.org/ > > I think they use all the RedHat code and strip out any copyrighted RedHat > logos. > > On 10/8/07, Casey DuBois wrote: >> I need a copy of RHEL 4 to test on a system. >> >> Any suggestions where I can get it? >> >> >> >> Sincerely, >> >> *Casey M. DuBois* >> >> *N-VINT, Inc.* >> >> 3240 Hanna Lake Industrial Park Dr. SE, Caledonia, MI 49316 >> >> 616-656-5500 Office >> >> *866-337-2686* Direct >> >> *AOL IM: CaseyNVINT* >> >> cdubois at n-vint.com** >> >> >> >> "I think there is a world market for maybe five computers." >> >> - Thomas John Watson - IBM >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> grlug mailing list >> grlug at grlug.org >> http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug Fedora stated in their startup page way back in the day that its intent was to be a testbed for RHEL, whether that holds true today is anyones guess. -- Marc Zuverink "Microsoft isn't evil, they just make really crappy operating systems." -Linus Torvalds From dond at standalelumber.com Mon Oct 8 15:30:02 2007 From: dond at standalelumber.com (Don Wood) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 15:30:02 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] Need copy of RHEL 4 In-Reply-To: <470A78B2.40702@gmail.com> References: <9F172CF1A5341F4F989A2A1414D5966916A9570D@NVMBX01.nvint.local> <470A78B2.40702@gmail.com> Message-ID: <004001c809e1$9f94f490$6f01a8c0@standalelumber.com> I have a copy of RHEL 4. Not sure where I got it from or if it works but you're welcome to it if you want. Don Wood IT Administrator Standale Lumber 616.340.2383 -----Original Message----- From: grlug-bounces at grlug.org [mailto:grlug-bounces at grlug.org] On Behalf Of Marc Zuverink Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 2:37 PM To: grlug at grlug.org Subject: Re: [GRLUG] Need copy of RHEL 4 Ben Rousch wrote: > http://www.centos.org/ > > I think they use all the RedHat code and strip out any copyrighted > RedHat logos. > > On 10/8/07, Casey DuBois wrote: >> I need a copy of RHEL 4 to test on a system. >> >> Any suggestions where I can get it? >> >> >> >> Sincerely, >> >> *Casey M. DuBois* >> >> *N-VINT, Inc.* >> >> 3240 Hanna Lake Industrial Park Dr. SE, Caledonia, MI 49316 >> >> 616-656-5500 Office >> >> *866-337-2686* Direct >> >> *AOL IM: CaseyNVINT* >> >> cdubois at n-vint.com** >> >> >> >> "I think there is a world market for maybe five computers." >> >> - Thomas John Watson - IBM >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> grlug mailing list >> grlug at grlug.org >> http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug >> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug Fedora stated in their startup page way back in the day that its intent was to be a testbed for RHEL, whether that holds true today is anyones guess. -- Marc Zuverink "Microsoft isn't evil, they just make really crappy operating systems." -Linus Torvalds _______________________________________________ grlug mailing list grlug at grlug.org http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug From greg at gregfolkert.net Mon Oct 8 16:24:17 2007 From: greg at gregfolkert.net (Greg Folkert) Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 16:24:17 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] Need copy of RHEL 4 In-Reply-To: <9F172CF1A5341F4F989A2A1414D5966916A9570D@NVMBX01.nvint.local> References: <9F172CF1A5341F4F989A2A1414D5966916A9570D@NVMBX01.nvint.local> Message-ID: <1191875057.31692.7.camel@princess.gregfolkert.net> I have just replaced RHEL3 update9 and RHEL4 update5 servers with CentOS v3.9 and CentOS v4.5 Binaries compiled for those RedHat version run exactly on corresponding CentOS versions. In fact, Kernel Modules compiled for specific kernel version of RedHat kernels load 100 percent on the CentOS kernels. IOW, use CentOS. They claim 100% Binary Compatibility. On Mon, 2007-10-08 at 14:08 -0400, Casey DuBois wrote: > I need a copy of RHEL 4 to test on a system. > > Any suggestions where I can get it? > Sincerely, > > Casey M. DuBois > N-VINT, Inc. > 3240 Hanna Lake Industrial Park Dr. SE, Caledonia, MI 49316 > 616-656-5500 Office > 866-337-2686 Direct > AOL IM: CaseyNVINT > cdubois at n-vint.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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For those of us used to setting up Myth manually, this distribution will add years to your life. --tim From justin.denick at gmail.com Tue Oct 9 08:05:17 2007 From: justin.denick at gmail.com (Justin Denick) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 08:05:17 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] Anyone interested in MythTV In-Reply-To: <2c97fe9d0710090410i6432e068v88ee54c0e34e5fea@mail.gmail.com> References: <2c97fe9d0710090410i6432e068v88ee54c0e34e5fea@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <81e08d920710090505m7e1dd778lc7901239880faed3@mail.gmail.com> da-boxx justin # equery list myth [ Searching for package 'myth' in all categories among: ] * installed packages [I--] [ ~] media-tv/mythtv-0.20.1_p13344 (0) [I--] [ ~] x11-themes/mythtv-themes-0.20.1 (0) da-boxx justin # lspci | grep -i video 02:02.0 Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video Capture (rev 11) I got mythtv up and running on gentoo earlier this year. I think the biggest hassle was setting up the trial account for local listings, after that, I was able to hook up a VCR and make AVI movies from VHS Tapes. I used avidemux to edit the videos. I'm curious to know whether or not you can get Comcast Digital Cable to work w/ listings, and On Demand available. On 10/9/07, Tim Schmidt wrote: > > Just wanted to mention, I gave Mythbuntu (http://www.mythbuntu.org) a > whirl last night and WOW. First distribution ever to get MythTV > RightTM IMHO. > > Forget everything you thought you knew about MythTV distributions and > give this one a try. > > For those of us used to setting up Myth manually, this distribution > will add years to your life. > > --tim > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > -- In vino veritas. [In wine there is truth.] -- Pliny -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On 10/9/07, Justin Denick wrote: > da-boxx justin # equery list myth > [ Searching for package 'myth' in all categories among: ] > * installed packages > [I--] [ ~] media-tv/mythtv-0.20.1_p13344 (0) > [I--] [ ~] x11-themes/mythtv-themes-0.20.1 (0) > da-boxx justin # lspci | grep -i video > 02:02.0 Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video > Capture (rev 11) > > I got mythtv up and running on gentoo earlier this year. I think the biggest > hassle was setting up the trial account for local listings, after that, I > was able to hook up a VCR and make AVI movies from VHS Tapes. > I used avidemux to edit the videos. > > I'm curious to know whether or not you can get Comcast Digital Cable to work > w/ listings, and On Demand available. > > > > > > > > On 10/9/07, Tim Schmidt wrote: > > Just wanted to mention, I gave Mythbuntu (http://www.mythbuntu.org) a > > whirl last night and WOW. First distribution ever to get MythTV > > RightTM IMHO. > > > > Forget everything you thought you knew about MythTV distributions and > > give this one a try. > > > > For those of us used to setting up Myth manually, this distribution > > will add years to your life. > > > > --tim > > _______________________________________________ > > grlug mailing list > > grlug at grlug.org > > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > > > > > > > > -- > In vino veritas. > [In wine there is truth.] > -- Pliny > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > From JOlding at gts.gaineycorp.com Tue Oct 9 10:38:58 2007 From: JOlding at gts.gaineycorp.com (Olding, Jim) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 10:38:58 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] Moving MySQL Data Dir Message-ID: I'm trying to move the data dir for MySQL on CentOS from the default (/var/lib/mysql) to a 2nd drive (/db/mysql). Here's the process I'm following: Stop the running MySQLd service Copy everything in /var/lib/mysql to /db/mysql Update /etc/my.cnf to point datadir to /db/mysql Start MySQLd Here's the output from trying to start the service back up after the move: [root at lct-linux mysql]# service mysqld start Timeout error occurred trying to start MySQL Daemon. Starting MySQL: [FAILED] [root at lct-linux mysql]# service mysqld status mysqld (pid 5851) is running... And here's mysqld.log: 071009 10:17:41 mysqld started 071009 10:17:41 InnoDB: Started; log sequence number 0 2650890 /usr/libexec/mysqld: ready for connections. Version: '4.1.20' socket: '/db/mysql/mysql.sock' port: 3306 Source distribution I can see the mysqld process running, and it is listening on port 3306, but nothing can seem to connect to it. If I point datadir back to /var/lib/mysql, everything works beautifully. Ideas? From rvillarreal at mktec.com Tue Oct 9 11:24:15 2007 From: rvillarreal at mktec.com (Roberto Villarreal) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 11:24:15 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] Moving MySQL Data Dir In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200710091124.15819.rvillarreal@mktec.com> On Tuesday 09 October 2007, Olding, Jim wrote: > I'm trying to move the data dir for MySQL on CentOS from the > default (/var/lib/mysql) to a 2nd drive (/db/mysql). Here's the > process I'm following: > > Stop the running MySQLd service > Copy everything in /var/lib/mysql to /db/mysql > Update /etc/my.cnf to point datadir to /db/mysql > Start MySQLd > > Here's the output from trying to start the service back up after > the move: > [root at lct-linux mysql]# service mysqld start > Timeout error occurred trying to start MySQL Daemon. > Starting MySQL: [FAILED] > [root at lct-linux mysql]# service mysqld status > mysqld (pid 5851) is running... > > And here's mysqld.log: > 071009 10:17:41 mysqld started > 071009 10:17:41 InnoDB: Started; log sequence number 0 2650890 > /usr/libexec/mysqld: ready for connections. > Version: '4.1.20' socket: '/db/mysql/mysql.sock' port: 3306 > Source distribution > > I can see the mysqld process running, and it is listening on port > 3306, but nothing can seem to connect to it. If I point datadir > back to /var/lib/mysql, everything works beautifully. Ideas? > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug Shot in the dark, but verify the socket is actually created (i.e. permissions). By default, if you are trying to connect to a local DB, it will use the socket. So just because the port is open doesn't really mean anything. You could probably try starting the client forcing the use of the port (or accessing the DB from another host, if you have proper permissions), and I'm guessing it might work. Hopefully this gives you a starting point at least... Roberto From airplanejay at gmail.com Tue Oct 9 12:57:26 2007 From: airplanejay at gmail.com (Jason Kisner) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 12:57:26 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] Updating to Feisty Fawn Message-ID: <5b9edb810710090957n23a9c398u82daccb21945753f@mail.gmail.com> Is there a way to update to Feisty Fawn without the use of a CD? -- Rensik nosaj si eman ym. Worromot rof nalp, yadot rof evil. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://shinobu.grlug.org/pipermail/grlug/attachments/20071009/af955ea6/attachment.htm From mikemol at gmail.com Tue Oct 9 13:04:18 2007 From: mikemol at gmail.com (Michael Mol) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 13:04:18 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] Updating to Feisty Fawn In-Reply-To: <5b9edb810710090957n23a9c398u82daccb21945753f@mail.gmail.com> References: <5b9edb810710090957n23a9c398u82daccb21945753f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Yes. You need to run the system update application with a special command-line parameter, but I don't remember what that is, and I don't have time to look it up. Or you can learn how to edit /etc/apt/sources.list, and work with apt-get dist-upgrade On 10/9/07, Jason Kisner wrote: > Is there a way to update to Feisty Fawn without the use of a CD? > > -- > Rensik nosaj si eman ym. > Worromot rof nalp, yadot rof evil. > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > -- :wq From bob.kline at gmail.com Tue Oct 9 13:10:21 2007 From: bob.kline at gmail.com (Bob Kline) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 13:10:21 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] Updating to Feisty Fawn In-Reply-To: References: <5b9edb810710090957n23a9c398u82daccb21945753f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Isn't "update" one of the options when you go to install one of the versions of Ubuntu? -Bob On 10/9/07, Michael Mol wrote: > > Yes. > > You need to run the system update application with a special > command-line parameter, but I don't remember what that is, and I don't > have time to look it up. > > Or you can learn how to edit /etc/apt/sources.list, and work with > apt-get dist-upgrade > > On 10/9/07, Jason Kisner wrote: > > Is there a way to update to Feisty Fawn without the use of a CD? > > > > -- > > Rensik nosaj si eman ym. > > Worromot rof nalp, yadot rof evil. > > _______________________________________________ > > grlug mailing list > > grlug at grlug.org > > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > > > > > -- > :wq > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://shinobu.grlug.org/pipermail/grlug/attachments/20071009/72056391/attachment.htm From brousch at gmail.com Tue Oct 9 13:22:33 2007 From: brousch at gmail.com (Ben Rousch) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 13:22:33 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] Updating to Feisty Fawn In-Reply-To: <5b9edb810710090957n23a9c398u82daccb21945753f@mail.gmail.com> References: <5b9edb810710090957n23a9c398u82daccb21945753f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Are you updating from Edgy to Feisty, or from something older than Edgy? The upgrade tips I read a while ago recommend that you not upgrade from anything except the previous version. If you are coming from Edgy, just open a terminal and type: gksudo "update-manager -c -d" and it should be obvious from there. On 10/9/07, Jason Kisner wrote: > > Is there a way to update to Feisty Fawn without the use of a CD? > > -- > Rensik nosaj si eman ym. > Worromot rof nalp, yadot rof evil. > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Edgy to fawn should be OK, but anything older and you should start from scratch because there was some major changes introduced in Edgy. Update your /etc/apt/sources.list changing every line that says edgy Run: apt-get update apt-get -f dist-upgrade Rick Jason Kisner wrote: > Is there a way to update to Feisty Fawn without the use of a CD? > > -- > Rensik nosaj si eman ym. > Worromot rof nalp, yadot rof evil. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug From brousch at gmail.com Tue Oct 9 13:36:42 2007 From: brousch at gmail.com (Ben Rousch) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 13:36:42 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] Updating to Feisty Fawn In-Reply-To: <470BB5FA.3010801@vargo.org> References: <5b9edb810710090957n23a9c398u82daccb21945753f@mail.gmail.com> <470BB5FA.3010801@vargo.org> Message-ID: Since Dapper (I believe) the recommended upgrade procedure is to use the update-manager rather than changing the repo sources. I remember doing the Dapper-Edgy upgrade by changing the repos, and although I did get it to work after a few hours of futzing around, there were quite a few bumps in the road. The big change I had trouble with was the replacement of the good old System-V init with Upstart . On 10/9/07, Rick Vargo wrote: > > What are you upgrading from? Edgy to fawn should be OK, but anything > older and you should start from scratch because there was some major > changes introduced in Edgy. > > Update your /etc/apt/sources.list changing every line that says edgy > > Run: > apt-get update > apt-get -f dist-upgrade > > Rick > > > Jason Kisner wrote: > > Is there a way to update to Feisty Fawn without the use of a CD? > > > > -- > > Rensik nosaj si eman ym. > > Worromot rof nalp, yadot rof evil. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > grlug mailing list > > grlug at grlug.org > > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://shinobu.grlug.org/pipermail/grlug/attachments/20071009/3cc0a1b3/attachment-0001.htm From mzuverink at gmail.com Tue Oct 9 15:17:14 2007 From: mzuverink at gmail.com (Marc Zuverink) Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 15:17:14 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] What distros do you want available for tomorrow nights meeting? Message-ID: <470BD3BA.9090802@gmail.com> Let me know what you want to install and I will download the iso and variant you desire and throw it on my external. Bring your own media, and the deadline for requests is 9 am Oct 10th! Also, if the Gusty mirrors actions slow down I will mirror over them to an external as well to help w/ bandwidth. Though, Gusty had over 33 changes so far today so I may just pass on that. Gusty is running fine for those who care. -- Marc Zuverink "Microsoft isn't evil, they just make really crappy operating systems." -Linus Torvalds From airplanejay at gmail.com Tue Oct 9 19:42:31 2007 From: airplanejay at gmail.com (Jason Kisner) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 19:42:31 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] Updating to Feisty Fawn In-Reply-To: References: <5b9edb810710090957n23a9c398u82daccb21945753f@mail.gmail.com> <470BB5FA.3010801@vargo.org> Message-ID: <5b9edb810710091642t5ab52cd8ydd4f4f4a6fb94e84@mail.gmail.com> I'm upgrading from edgy to feisty, sorry if I didn't make that clear. On 10/9/07, Ben Rousch wrote: > > Since Dapper (I believe) the recommended upgrade procedure is to use the > update-manager rather than changing the repo sources. I remember doing the > Dapper-Edgy upgrade by changing the repos, and although I did get it to work > after a few hours of futzing around, there were quite a few bumps in the > road. The big change I had trouble with was the replacement of the good old > System-V init with Upstart . > > On 10/9/07, Rick Vargo wrote: > > > What are you upgrading from? Edgy to fawn should be OK, but anything > > older and you should start from scratch because there was some major > > changes introduced in Edgy. > > > > Update your /etc/apt/sources.list changing every line that says edgy > > > > Run: > > apt-get update > > apt-get -f dist-upgrade > > > > Rick > > > > > > Jason Kisner wrote: > > > Is there a way to update to Feisty Fawn without the use of a CD? > > > > > > -- > > > Rensik nosaj si eman ym. > > > Worromot rof nalp, yadot rof evil. > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > grlug mailing list > > > grlug at grlug.org > > > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > > _______________________________________________ > > grlug mailing list > > grlug at grlug.org > > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > > > > > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > -- Rensik nosaj si eman ym. Worromot rof nalp, yadot rof evil. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://shinobu.grlug.org/pipermail/grlug/attachments/20071009/a1346a87/attachment.htm From timschmidt at gmail.com Tue Oct 9 22:12:27 2007 From: timschmidt at gmail.com (Tim Schmidt) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 22:12:27 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] Anyone interested in MythTV In-Reply-To: <81e08d920710090505m7e1dd778lc7901239880faed3@mail.gmail.com> References: <2c97fe9d0710090410i6432e068v88ee54c0e34e5fea@mail.gmail.com> <81e08d920710090505m7e1dd778lc7901239880faed3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2c97fe9d0710091912q7610b6fetf53bafed8415ca70@mail.gmail.com> On 10/9/07, Justin Denick wrote: > I got mythtv up and running on gentoo earlier this year. I think the biggest > hassle was setting up the trial account for local listings, after that, I > was able to hook up a VCR and make AVI movies from VHS Tapes. > I used avidemux to edit the videos. Right. These days it's easy to install Myth on pretty much any distribution. Where Mythbuntu differs, in my experience so far, is there don't seem to be _any_ post-install gotchas. None. Want to watch DVDs? Done. Surf the web? That plugin's already installed. Bought a new tuner? Driver's already there. So on and so forth. Hell, there's even a GUI for configuring LIRC during the install. I've been using Myth since 0.6 days and this is definitely the slickest install I've seen yet. Bonus points because the packages are the same ones in the official repos. Just for reference, all these comments are about the 7.10 beta. --tim From mikemol at gmail.com Tue Oct 9 22:31:40 2007 From: mikemol at gmail.com (Michael Mol) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 22:31:40 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] Updating to Feisty Fawn In-Reply-To: <5b9edb810710091642t5ab52cd8ydd4f4f4a6fb94e84@mail.gmail.com> References: <5b9edb810710090957n23a9c398u82daccb21945753f@mail.gmail.com> <470BB5FA.3010801@vargo.org> <5b9edb810710091642t5ab52cd8ydd4f4f4a6fb94e84@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: shortcircuit at caterpillar~ 22:30:27 $ update-manager --help Usage: update-manager [options] Options: -h, --help show this help message and exit -c, --check-dist-upgrades Check if a new distribution release is available -d, --devel-release Check if upgrading to the latest devel release is possible -p, --proposed Try to run a dist-upgrade --dist-upgrade, --dist-ugprade Try to run a dist-upgrade shortcircuit at caterpillar~ 22:30:32 $ The command you're looking for is "upgrade-manager -c" On 10/9/07, Jason Kisner wrote: > I'm upgrading from edgy to feisty, sorry if I didn't make that clear. > > > > On 10/9/07, Ben Rousch wrote: > > Since Dapper (I believe) the recommended upgrade procedure is to use the > update-manager rather than changing the repo sources. I remember doing the > Dapper-Edgy upgrade by changing the repos, and although I did get it to work > after a few hours of futzing around, there were quite a few bumps in the > road. The big change I had trouble with was the replacement of the good old > System-V init with Upstart. > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/9/07, Rick Vargo wrote: > > > What are you upgrading from? Edgy to fawn should be OK, but anything > > > older and you should start from scratch because there was some major > > > changes introduced in Edgy. > > > > > > Update your /etc/apt/sources.list changing every line that says edgy > > > > > > Run: > > > apt-get update > > > apt-get -f dist-upgrade > > > > > > Rick > > > > > > > > > Jason Kisner wrote: > > > > Is there a way to update to Feisty Fawn without the use of a CD? > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Rensik nosaj si eman ym. > > > > Worromot rof nalp, yadot rof evil. > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > grlug mailing list > > > > grlug at grlug.org > > > > > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > > > _______________________________________________ > > > grlug mailing list > > > grlug at grlug.org > > > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > grlug mailing list > > grlug at grlug.org > > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > > > > > > > > -- > > Rensik nosaj si eman ym. > Worromot rof nalp, yadot rof evil. > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > -- :wq From mikemol at gmail.com Tue Oct 9 22:32:08 2007 From: mikemol at gmail.com (Michael Mol) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 22:32:08 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] Updating to Feisty Fawn In-Reply-To: References: <5b9edb810710090957n23a9c398u82daccb21945753f@mail.gmail.com> <470BB5FA.3010801@vargo.org> <5b9edb810710091642t5ab52cd8ydd4f4f4a6fb94e84@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Doh. Make that "update-manager -c" ...Today has *not* been my day. On 10/9/07, Michael Mol wrote: > shortcircuit at caterpillar~ > 22:30:27 $ update-manager --help > Usage: update-manager [options] > > Options: > -h, --help show this help message and exit > -c, --check-dist-upgrades > Check if a new distribution release is available > -d, --devel-release Check if upgrading to the latest devel release is > possible > -p, --proposed Try to run a dist-upgrade > --dist-upgrade, --dist-ugprade > Try to run a dist-upgrade > shortcircuit at caterpillar~ > 22:30:32 $ > > The command you're looking for is "upgrade-manager -c" > > On 10/9/07, Jason Kisner wrote: > > I'm upgrading from edgy to feisty, sorry if I didn't make that clear. > > > > > > > > On 10/9/07, Ben Rousch wrote: > > > Since Dapper (I believe) the recommended upgrade procedure is to use the > > update-manager rather than changing the repo sources. I remember doing the > > Dapper-Edgy upgrade by changing the repos, and although I did get it to work > > after a few hours of futzing around, there were quite a few bumps in the > > road. The big change I had trouble with was the replacement of the good old > > System-V init with Upstart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/9/07, Rick Vargo wrote: > > > > What are you upgrading from? Edgy to fawn should be OK, but anything > > > > older and you should start from scratch because there was some major > > > > changes introduced in Edgy. > > > > > > > > Update your /etc/apt/sources.list changing every line that says edgy > > > > > > > > Run: > > > > apt-get update > > > > apt-get -f dist-upgrade > > > > > > > > Rick > > > > > > > > > > > > Jason Kisner wrote: > > > > > Is there a way to update to Feisty Fawn without the use of a CD? > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Rensik nosaj si eman ym. > > > > > Worromot rof nalp, yadot rof evil. > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > grlug mailing list > > > > > grlug at grlug.org > > > > > > > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > grlug mailing list > > > > grlug at grlug.org > > > > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > grlug mailing list > > > grlug at grlug.org > > > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Rensik nosaj si eman ym. > > Worromot rof nalp, yadot rof evil. > > _______________________________________________ > > grlug mailing list > > grlug at grlug.org > > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > > > > > -- > :wq > -- :wq From airplanejay at gmail.com Tue Oct 9 23:50:08 2007 From: airplanejay at gmail.com (Jason Kisner) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 23:50:08 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] Updating to Feisty Fawn In-Reply-To: References: <5b9edb810710090957n23a9c398u82daccb21945753f@mail.gmail.com> <470BB5FA.3010801@vargo.org> <5b9edb810710091642t5ab52cd8ydd4f4f4a6fb94e84@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5b9edb810710092050y4efebcefoc5f8ee3a7846d4@mail.gmail.com> thanks mike On 10/9/07, Michael Mol wrote: > > Doh. > > Make that "update-manager -c" > > ...Today has *not* been my day. > > On 10/9/07, Michael Mol wrote: > > shortcircuit at caterpillar~ > > 22:30:27 $ update-manager --help > > Usage: update-manager [options] > > > > Options: > > -h, --help show this help message and exit > > -c, --check-dist-upgrades > > Check if a new distribution release is available > > -d, --devel-release Check if upgrading to the latest devel release > is > > possible > > -p, --proposed Try to run a dist-upgrade > > --dist-upgrade, --dist-ugprade > > Try to run a dist-upgrade > > shortcircuit at caterpillar~ > > 22:30:32 $ > > > > The command you're looking for is "upgrade-manager -c" > > > > On 10/9/07, Jason Kisner wrote: > > > I'm upgrading from edgy to feisty, sorry if I didn't make that clear. > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/9/07, Ben Rousch wrote: > > > > Since Dapper (I believe) the recommended upgrade procedure is to use > the > > > update-manager rather than changing the repo sources. I remember doing > the > > > Dapper-Edgy upgrade by changing the repos, and although I did get it > to work > > > after a few hours of futzing around, there were quite a few bumps in > the > > > road. The big change I had trouble with was the replacement of the > good old > > > System-V init with Upstart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/9/07, Rick Vargo wrote: > > > > > What are you upgrading from? Edgy to fawn should be OK, but > anything > > > > > older and you should start from scratch because there was some > major > > > > > changes introduced in Edgy. > > > > > > > > > > Update your /etc/apt/sources.list changing every line that says > edgy > > > > > > > > > > Run: > > > > > apt-get update > > > > > apt-get -f dist-upgrade > > > > > > > > > > Rick > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jason Kisner wrote: > > > > > > Is there a way to update to Feisty Fawn without the use of a CD? > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Rensik nosaj si eman ym. > > > > > > Worromot rof nalp, yadot rof evil. > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > grlug mailing list > > > > > > grlug at grlug.org > > > > > > > > > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > grlug mailing list > > > > > grlug at grlug.org > > > > > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > grlug mailing list > > > > grlug at grlug.org > > > > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Rensik nosaj si eman ym. > > > Worromot rof nalp, yadot rof evil. > > > _______________________________________________ > > > grlug mailing list > > > grlug at grlug.org > > > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > > > > > > > > > -- > > :wq > > > > > -- > :wq > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > -- Rensik nosaj si eman ym. 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On 10/9/07, Jason Kisner wrote: > > thanks mike > > On 10/9/07, Michael Mol wrote: > > > > Doh. > > > > Make that "update-manager -c" > > > > ...Today has *not* been my day. > > > > On 10/9/07, Michael Mol wrote: > > > shortcircuit at caterpillar ~ > > > 22:30:27 $ update-manager --help > > > Usage: update-manager [options] > > > > > > Options: > > > -h, --help show this help message and exit > > > -c, --check-dist-upgrades > > > Check if a new distribution release is > > available > > > -d, --devel-release Check if upgrading to the latest devel release > > is > > > possible > > > -p, --proposed Try to run a dist-upgrade > > > --dist-upgrade, --dist-ugprade > > > Try to run a dist-upgrade > > > shortcircuit at caterpillar~ > > > 22:30:32 $ > > > > > > The command you're looking for is "upgrade-manager -c" > > > > > > On 10/9/07, Jason Kisner < airplanejay at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > I'm upgrading from edgy to feisty, sorry if I didn't make that > > clear. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/9/07, Ben Rousch < brousch at gmail.com > wrote: > > > > > Since Dapper (I believe) the recommended upgrade procedure is to > > use the > > > > update-manager rather than changing the repo sources. I remember > > doing the > > > > Dapper-Edgy upgrade by changing the repos, and although I did get it > > to work > > > > after a few hours of futzing around, there were quite a few bumps in > > the > > > > road. The big change I had trouble with was the replacement of the > > good old > > > > System-V init with Upstart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/9/07, Rick Vargo wrote: > > > > > > What are you upgrading from? Edgy to fawn should be OK, but > > anything > > > > > > older and you should start from scratch because there was some > > major > > > > > > changes introduced in Edgy. > > > > > > > > > > > > Update your /etc/apt/sources.list changing every line that says > > edgy > > > > > > > > > > > > Run: > > > > > > apt-get update > > > > > > apt-get -f dist-upgrade > > > > > > > > > > > > Rick > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jason Kisner wrote: > > > > > > > Is there a way to update to Feisty Fawn without the use of a > > CD? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > Rensik nosaj si eman ym. > > > > > > > Worromot rof nalp, yadot rof evil. > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > grlug mailing list > > > > > > > grlug at grlug.org > > > > > > > > > > > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > grlug mailing list > > > > > > grlug at grlug.org > > > > > > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > grlug mailing list > > > > > grlug at grlug.org > > > > > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Rensik nosaj si eman ym. > > > > Worromot rof nalp, yadot rof evil. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > grlug mailing list > > > > grlug at grlug.org > > > > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > :wq > > > > > > > > > -- > > :wq > > _______________________________________________ > > grlug mailing list > > grlug at grlug.org > > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > > > > > > -- > Rensik nosaj si eman ym. > Worromot rof nalp, yadot rof evil. > -- Rensik nosaj si eman ym. 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URL: http://shinobu.grlug.org/pipermail/grlug/attachments/20071010/2dd8f8a2/attachment-0001.htm From mikemol at gmail.com Wed Oct 10 01:11:56 2007 From: mikemol at gmail.com (Michael Mol) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 01:11:56 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] Updating to Feisty Fawn In-Reply-To: <5b9edb810710092121s33f69ca7g601c9473fd8ad486@mail.gmail.com> References: <5b9edb810710090957n23a9c398u82daccb21945753f@mail.gmail.com> <470BB5FA.3010801@vargo.org> <5b9edb810710091642t5ab52cd8ydd4f4f4a6fb94e84@mail.gmail.com> <5b9edb810710092050y4efebcefoc5f8ee3a7846d4@mail.gmail.com> <5b9edb810710092121s33f69ca7g601c9473fd8ad486@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: You want "update-manager -c", not update-manager -d" On 10/10/07, Jason Kisner wrote: > um... this is the error I'm getting: > > > > "jason at rensiks-place:~$ update-manager -d > > > > Introspect error: The name org.freedesktop.UpdateManager was not provided by > any .service files > > > > no listening object (The name org.freedesktop.UpdateManager was not provided > by any .service files) " > > I have the individual cmd-lines spaced apart for better clarity. > > > > > On 10/9/07, Jason Kisner wrote: > > thanks mike > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/9/07, Michael Mol < mikemol at gmail.com> wrote: > > > Doh. > > > > > > Make that "update-manager -c" > > > > > > ...Today has *not* been my day. > > > > > > On 10/9/07, Michael Mol < mikemol at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > shortcircuit at caterpillar ~ > > > > 22:30:27 $ update-manager --help > > > > Usage: update-manager [options] > > > > > > > > Options: > > > > -h, --help show this help message and exit > > > > -c, --check-dist-upgrades > > > > Check if a new distribution release is > available > > > > -d, --devel-release Check if upgrading to the latest devel release > is > > > > possible > > > > -p, --proposed Try to run a dist-upgrade > > > > --dist-upgrade, --dist-ugprade > > > > Try to run a dist-upgrade > > > > shortcircuit at caterpillar~ > > > > 22:30:32 $ > > > > > > > > The command you're looking for is "upgrade-manager -c" > > > > > > > > On 10/9/07, Jason Kisner < airplanejay at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > I'm upgrading from edgy to feisty, sorry if I didn't make that > clear. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/9/07, Ben Rousch < brousch at gmail.com > wrote: > > > > > > Since Dapper (I believe) the recommended upgrade procedure is to > use the > > > > > update-manager rather than changing the repo sources. I remember > doing the > > > > > Dapper-Edgy upgrade by changing the repos, and although I did get it > to work > > > > > after a few hours of futzing around, there were quite a few bumps in > the > > > > > road. The big change I had trouble with was the replacement of the > good old > > > > > System-V init with Upstart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/9/07, Rick Vargo < rick at vargo.org > wrote: > > > > > > > What are you upgrading from? Edgy to fawn should be OK, but > anything > > > > > > > older and you should start from scratch because there was some > major > > > > > > > changes introduced in Edgy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Update your /etc/apt/sources.list changing every line that says > edgy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Run: > > > > > > > apt-get update > > > > > > > apt-get -f dist-upgrade > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rick > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jason Kisner wrote: > > > > > > > > Is there a way to update to Feisty Fawn without the use of a > CD? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Rensik nosaj si eman ym. > > > > > > > > Worromot rof nalp, yadot rof evil. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > grlug mailing list > > > > > > > > grlug at grlug.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > grlug mailing list > > > > > > > grlug at grlug.org > > > > > > > > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > grlug mailing list > > > > > > grlug at grlug.org > > > > > > > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > Rensik nosaj si eman ym. > > > > > Worromot rof nalp, yadot rof evil. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > grlug mailing list > > > > > grlug at grlug.org > > > > > > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > :wq > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > :wq > > > _______________________________________________ > > > grlug mailing list > > > grlug at grlug.org > > > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Rensik nosaj si eman ym. > > Worromot rof nalp, yadot rof evil. > > > > > > -- > > Rensik nosaj si eman ym. > Worromot rof nalp, yadot rof evil. > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > -- :wq From djk at oneisp.net Wed Oct 10 09:55:03 2007 From: djk at oneisp.net (Dennis Kaminski) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 09:55:03 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] ** Reminder LUG Meeting (Install Fest) THIS WEEK Wednesday October 10th from 6-8PM In-Reply-To: <9F172CF1A5341F4F989A2A1414D5966916A956E0@NVMBX01.nvint.local> References: <9F172CF1A5341F4F989A2A1414D5966916A956E0@NVMBX01.nvint.local> Message-ID: <1192024503.5560.14.camel@lx52.djk.net> Casey, If it is not too late I would like to RSVP for tonight. Thanks, Dennis Kaminski On Mon, 2007-10-08 at 11:23 -0400, Casey DuBois wrote: > *** Reminder > > Hello All, > > The next GRLUG meeting is set. > Wednesday October 10th. > From: 6-8PM > Location: 3240 Hanna Lake Industrial Park Drive SE, Caledonia > > http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=3240+Hanna+Lake+Industrial+Park+Drive+SE,+Caledonia,+MI&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=24.455808,59.765625&ie=UTF8&ll=42.847275,-85.580063&spn=0.085205,0.159645&z=13&iwloc=addr&om=1 > > I am sponsoring Brats and Burgers again so please RSVP to cdubois at n-vint.com so I can make sure to have enough. > > After the last meeting we decided to do an install fest. > > I will bring my FON router some desktops and laptops to install Linux on however anyone is welcome to bring in hardware for us to play with. > Also looking forward to seeing John's ipod with rockbox and maybe even installing rockbox on someone else's ipod. > > FYI the WMLUG meeting is the following week on Thursday the 18th for more info or to RSVP visit www.wmlug.org. > > Sincerely, > Casey M. DuBois > N-VINT, Inc. > 3240 Hanna Lake Industrial Park Dr. SE, Caledonia, MI 49316 > 616-656-5500 Office > 866-337-2686 Direct > AOL IM: CaseyNVINT > cdubois at n-vint.com > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://shinobu.grlug.org/pipermail/grlug/attachments/20071010/0fc6b972/attachment.htm From cdubois at n-vint.com Wed Oct 10 11:18:28 2007 From: cdubois at n-vint.com (Casey DuBois) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 11:18:28 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] LUG Install Fest TONIGHT!! Wednesday October 10th from 6-???PM Message-ID: <9F172CF1A5341F4F989A2A1414D5966916A95825@NVMBX01.nvint.local> LUG Install Fest TONIGHT... The Food will be ready @ 6:00pm so I don't miss anything. I have 3-desktops, 1-laptop and a couple servers to install Linux on so bring your favorite distributions. I forgot my FON router so if someone has one that they could bring.... I have a couple skids of freebies to offer the group also: Motherboards, RAM, HDD, Cards etc. So come early to get the best items. Wednesday October 10th. From: 6-??PM Location: 3240 Hanna Lake Industrial Park Drive SE, Caledonia http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=3240+Hanna+Lake+Industrial+Park+Drive+SE,+Caledonia,+MI&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=24.455808,59.765625&ie=UTF8&ll=42.847275,-85.580063&spn=0.085205,0.159645&z=13&iwloc=addr&om=1 I am sponsoring Brats and Burgers again so please RSVP to cdubois at n-vint.com so I can make sure to have enough. After the last meeting we decided to do an install fest. I will bring my FON router some desktops and laptops to install Linux on however anyone is welcome to bring in hardware for us to play with. Also looking forward to seeing John's ipod with rockbox and maybe even installing rockbox on someone else's ipod. FYI the WMLUG meeting is the following week on Thursday the 18th for more info or to RSVP visit www.wmlug.org. Sincerely, Casey M. DuBois N-VINT, Inc. 3240 Hanna Lake Industrial Park Dr. SE, Caledonia, MI 49316 616-656-5500 Office 866-337-2686 Direct AOL IM: CaseyNVINT cdubois at n-vint.com _______________________________________________ grlug mailing list grlug at grlug.org http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug From mzuverink at gmail.com Wed Oct 10 11:51:39 2007 From: mzuverink at gmail.com (Marc Zuverink) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 11:51:39 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] LUG Install Fest TONIGHT!! Wednesday October 10th from 6-???PM In-Reply-To: <9F172CF1A5341F4F989A2A1414D5966916A95825@NVMBX01.nvint.local> References: <9F172CF1A5341F4F989A2A1414D5966916A95825@NVMBX01.nvint.local> Message-ID: <470CF50B.1010900@gmail.com> Casey DuBois wrote: > LUG Install Fest TONIGHT... > > The Food will be ready @ 6:00pm so I don't miss anything. > > I have 3-desktops, 1-laptop and a couple servers to install Linux on so bring your favorite distributions. I forgot my FON router so if someone has one that they could bring.... > > I have a couple skids of freebies to offer the group also: Motherboards, RAM, HDD, Cards etc. So come early to get the best items. > > Wednesday October 10th. > From: 6-??PM > Location: 3240 Hanna Lake Industrial Park Drive SE, Caledonia > > http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=3240+Hanna+Lake+Industrial+Park+Drive+SE,+Caledonia,+MI&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=24.455808,59.765625&ie=UTF8&ll=42.847275,-85.580063&spn=0.085205,0.159645&z=13&iwloc=addr&om=1 > > I am sponsoring Brats and Burgers again so please RSVP to cdubois at n-vint.com so I can make sure to have enough. > > After the last meeting we decided to do an install fest. > > I will bring my FON router some desktops and laptops to install Linux on however anyone is welcome to bring in hardware for us to play with. > Also looking forward to seeing John's ipod with rockbox and maybe even installing rockbox on someone else's ipod. > > FYI the WMLUG meeting is the following week on Thursday the 18th for more info or to RSVP visit www.wmlug.org. > > Sincerely, > Casey M. DuBois > N-VINT, Inc. > 3240 Hanna Lake Industrial Park Dr. SE, Caledonia, MI 49316 > 616-656-5500 Office > 866-337-2686 Direct > AOL IM: CaseyNVINT > cdubois at n-vint.com > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > I will bring that Buffalo a/b/g/n router if its needed, I dont have a FON router, sorry. -- Marc Zuverink "Microsoft isn't evil, they just make really crappy operating systems." -Linus Torvalds From airplanejay at gmail.com Wed Oct 10 12:49:18 2007 From: airplanejay at gmail.com (Jason Kisner) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 12:49:18 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] Updating to Feisty Fawn In-Reply-To: References: <5b9edb810710090957n23a9c398u82daccb21945753f@mail.gmail.com> <470BB5FA.3010801@vargo.org> <5b9edb810710091642t5ab52cd8ydd4f4f4a6fb94e84@mail.gmail.com> <5b9edb810710092050y4efebcefoc5f8ee3a7846d4@mail.gmail.com> <5b9edb810710092121s33f69ca7g601c9473fd8ad486@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5b9edb810710100949i468b64e8md8ef96225d4f4dfb@mail.gmail.com> Oh, sorry, I get the same thing. doesn't matter which one I try. On 10/10/07, Michael Mol wrote: > > You want "update-manager -c", not update-manager -d" > > On 10/10/07, Jason Kisner wrote: > > um... this is the error I'm getting: > > > > > > > > "jason at rensiks-place:~$ update-manager -d > > > > > > > > Introspect error: The name org.freedesktop.UpdateManager was not > provided by > > any .service files > > > > > > > > no listening object (The name org.freedesktop.UpdateManager was not > provided > > by any .service files) " > > > > I have the individual cmd-lines spaced apart for better clarity. > > > > > > > > > > On 10/9/07, Jason Kisner wrote: > > > thanks mike > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/9/07, Michael Mol < mikemol at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Doh. > > > > > > > > Make that "update-manager -c" > > > > > > > > ...Today has *not* been my day. > > > > > > > > On 10/9/07, Michael Mol < mikemol at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > shortcircuit at caterpillar ~ > > > > > 22:30:27 $ update-manager --help > > > > > Usage: update-manager [options] > > > > > > > > > > Options: > > > > > -h, --help show this help message and exit > > > > > -c, --check-dist-upgrades > > > > > Check if a new distribution release is > > available > > > > > -d, --devel-release Check if upgrading to the latest devel > release > > is > > > > > possible > > > > > -p, --proposed Try to run a dist-upgrade > > > > > --dist-upgrade, --dist-ugprade > > > > > Try to run a dist-upgrade > > > > > shortcircuit at caterpillar~ > > > > > 22:30:32 $ > > > > > > > > > > The command you're looking for is "upgrade-manager -c" > > > > > > > > > > On 10/9/07, Jason Kisner < airplanejay at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > I'm upgrading from edgy to feisty, sorry if I didn't make that > > clear. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/9/07, Ben Rousch < brousch at gmail.com > wrote: > > > > > > > Since Dapper (I believe) the recommended upgrade procedure is > to > > use the > > > > > > update-manager rather than changing the repo sources. I remember > > doing the > > > > > > Dapper-Edgy upgrade by changing the repos, and although I did > get it > > to work > > > > > > after a few hours of futzing around, there were quite a few > bumps in > > the > > > > > > road. The big change I had trouble with was the replacement of > the > > good old > > > > > > System-V init with Upstart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/9/07, Rick Vargo < rick at vargo.org > wrote: > > > > > > > > What are you upgrading from? Edgy to fawn should be OK, but > > anything > > > > > > > > older and you should start from scratch because there was > some > > major > > > > > > > > changes introduced in Edgy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Update your /etc/apt/sources.list changing every line that > says > > edgy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Run: > > > > > > > > apt-get update > > > > > > > > apt-get -f dist-upgrade > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rick > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jason Kisner wrote: > > > > > > > > > Is there a way to update to Feisty Fawn without the use of > a > > CD? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > Rensik nosaj si eman ym. > > > > > > > > > Worromot rof nalp, yadot rof evil. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > grlug mailing list > > > > > > > > > grlug at grlug.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > grlug mailing list > > > > > > > > grlug at grlug.org > > > > > > > > > > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > grlug mailing list > > > > > > > grlug at grlug.org > > > > > > > > > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > Rensik nosaj si eman ym. > > > > > > Worromot rof nalp, yadot rof evil. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > grlug mailing list > > > > > > grlug at grlug.org > > > > > > > > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > :wq > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > :wq > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > grlug mailing list > > > > grlug at grlug.org > > > > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > Rensik nosaj si eman ym. > > > Worromot rof nalp, yadot rof evil. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Rensik nosaj si eman ym. > > Worromot rof nalp, yadot rof evil. > > _______________________________________________ > > grlug mailing list > > grlug at grlug.org > > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > > > > > -- > :wq > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > -- Rensik nosaj si eman ym. Worromot rof nalp, yadot rof evil. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://shinobu.grlug.org/pipermail/grlug/attachments/20071010/58ba2e07/attachment-0001.htm From mikemol at gmail.com Wed Oct 10 14:15:15 2007 From: mikemol at gmail.com (Michael Mol) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 14:15:15 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] Updating to Feisty Fawn In-Reply-To: <5b9edb810710100949i468b64e8md8ef96225d4f4dfb@mail.gmail.com> References: <5b9edb810710090957n23a9c398u82daccb21945753f@mail.gmail.com> <470BB5FA.3010801@vargo.org> <5b9edb810710091642t5ab52cd8ydd4f4f4a6fb94e84@mail.gmail.com> <5b9edb810710092050y4efebcefoc5f8ee3a7846d4@mail.gmail.com> <5b9edb810710092121s33f69ca7g601c9473fd8ad486@mail.gmail.com> <5b9edb810710100949i468b64e8md8ef96225d4f4dfb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Are you able to run the Update Manager from the Administration menu? On 10/10/07, Jason Kisner wrote: > Oh, sorry, I get the same thing. doesn't matter which one I try. > > > > > On 10/10/07, Michael Mol wrote: > > You want "update-manager -c", not update-manager -d" > > > > On 10/10/07, Jason Kisner wrote: > > > um... this is the error I'm getting: > > > > > > > > > > > > "jason at rensiks-place:~$ update-manager -d > > > > > > > > > > > > Introspect error: The name org.freedesktop.UpdateManager was not > provided by > > > any .service files > > > > > > > > > > > > no listening object (The name org.freedesktop.UpdateManager was not > provided > > > by any .service files) " > > > > > > I have the individual cmd-lines spaced apart for better clarity. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/9/07, Jason Kisner < airplanejay at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > thanks mike > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/9/07, Michael Mol < mikemol at gmail.com > wrote: > > > > > Doh. > > > > > > > > > > Make that "update-manager -c" > > > > > > > > > > ...Today has *not* been my day. > > > > > > > > > > On 10/9/07, Michael Mol < mikemol at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > shortcircuit at caterpillar ~ > > > > > > 22:30:27 $ update-manager --help > > > > > > Usage: update-manager [options] > > > > > > > > > > > > Options: > > > > > > -h, --help show this help message and exit > > > > > > -c, --check-dist-upgrades > > > > > > Check if a new distribution release is > > > available > > > > > > -d, --devel-release Check if upgrading to the latest devel > release > > > is > > > > > > possible > > > > > > -p, --proposed Try to run a dist-upgrade > > > > > > --dist-upgrade, --dist-ugprade > > > > > > Try to run a dist-upgrade > > > > > > shortcircuit at caterpillar~ > > > > > > 22:30:32 $ > > > > > > > > > > > > The command you're looking for is "upgrade-manager -c" > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/9/07, Jason Kisner < airplanejay at gmail.com > wrote: > > > > > > > I'm upgrading from edgy to feisty, sorry if I didn't make that > > > clear. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/9/07, Ben Rousch < brousch at gmail.com > wrote: > > > > > > > > Since Dapper (I believe) the recommended upgrade procedure is > to > > > use the > > > > > > > update-manager rather than changing the repo sources. I remember > > > doing the > > > > > > > Dapper-Edgy upgrade by changing the repos, and although I did > get it > > > to work > > > > > > > after a few hours of futzing around, there were quite a few > bumps in > > > the > > > > > > > road. The big change I had trouble with was the replacement of > the > > > good old > > > > > > > System-V init with Upstart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/9/07, Rick Vargo < rick at vargo.org > wrote: > > > > > > > > > What are you upgrading from? Edgy to fawn should be OK, but > > > anything > > > > > > > > > older and you should start from scratch because there was > some > > > major > > > > > > > > > changes introduced in Edgy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Update your /etc/apt/sources.list changing every line that > says > > > edgy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Run: > > > > > > > > > apt-get update > > > > > > > > > apt-get -f dist-upgrade > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rick > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jason Kisner wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Is there a way to update to Feisty Fawn without the use of > a > > > CD? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > Rensik nosaj si eman ym. > > > > > > > > > > Worromot rof nalp, yadot rof evil. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > grlug mailing list > > > > > > > > > > grlug at grlug.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > grlug mailing list > > > > > > > > > grlug at grlug.org > > > > > > > > > > > > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > grlug mailing list > > > > > > > > grlug at grlug.org > > > > > > > > > > > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rensik nosaj si eman ym. > > > > > > > Worromot rof nalp, yadot rof evil. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > grlug mailing list > > > > > > > grlug at grlug.org > > > > > > > > > > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > :wq > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > :wq > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > grlug mailing list > > > > > grlug at grlug.org > > > > > > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > Rensik nosaj si eman ym. > > > > Worromot rof nalp, yadot rof evil. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Rensik nosaj si eman ym. > > > Worromot rof nalp, yadot rof evil. > > > _______________________________________________ > > > grlug mailing list > > > grlug at grlug.org > > > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > > > > > > > > > -- > > :wq > > _______________________________________________ > > grlug mailing list > > grlug at grlug.org > > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > > > > > > > > -- > Rensik nosaj si eman ym. > Worromot rof nalp, yadot rof evil. > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > -- :wq From matt at michielsen.us Wed Oct 10 14:52:12 2007 From: matt at michielsen.us (Matt Michielsen) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 14:52:12 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] LUG Install Fest TONIGHT!! Wednesday October 10th from 6-???PM In-Reply-To: <470CF50B.1010900@gmail.com> References: <9F172CF1A5341F4F989A2A1414D5966916A95825@NVMBX01.nvint.local> <470CF50B.1010900@gmail.com> Message-ID: I have a FON router, and it's already in the backpack. -mm On 10/10/07, Marc Zuverink wrote: > > Casey DuBois wrote: > > LUG Install Fest TONIGHT... > > > > The Food will be ready @ 6:00pm so I don't miss anything. > > > > I have 3-desktops, 1-laptop and a couple servers to install Linux on so > bring your favorite distributions. I forgot my FON router so if someone has > one that they could bring.... > > > > I have a couple skids of freebies to offer the group also: Motherboards, > RAM, HDD, Cards etc. So come early to get the best items. > > > > Wednesday October 10th. > > From: 6-??PM > > Location: 3240 Hanna Lake Industrial Park Drive SE, Caledonia > > > > > http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=3240+Hanna+Lake+Industrial+Park+Drive+SE,+Caledonia,+MI&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=24.455808,59.765625&ie=UTF8&ll=42.847275,-85.580063&spn=0.085205,0.159645&z=13&iwloc=addr&om=1 > > > > I am sponsoring Brats and Burgers again so please RSVP to > cdubois at n-vint.com so I can make sure to have enough. > > > > After the last meeting we decided to do an install fest. > > > > I will bring my FON router some desktops and laptops to install Linux on > however anyone is welcome to bring in hardware for us to play with. > > Also looking forward to seeing John's ipod with rockbox and maybe even > installing rockbox on someone else's ipod. > > > > FYI the WMLUG meeting is the following week on Thursday the 18th for > more info or to RSVP visit www.wmlug.org. > > > > Sincerely, > > Casey M. DuBois > > N-VINT, Inc. > > 3240 Hanna Lake Industrial Park Dr. SE, Caledonia, MI 49316 > > 616-656-5500 Office > > 866-337-2686 Direct > > AOL IM: CaseyNVINT > > cdubois at n-vint.com > > _______________________________________________ > > grlug mailing list > > grlug at grlug.org > > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > > _______________________________________________ > > grlug mailing list > > grlug at grlug.org > > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > > > > I will bring that Buffalo a/b/g/n router if its needed, I dont have a > FON router, sorry. > > -- > Marc Zuverink > > "Microsoft isn't evil, they just make really crappy operating systems." > -Linus Torvalds > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://shinobu.grlug.org/pipermail/grlug/attachments/20071010/0a431579/attachment.htm From mikemol at gmail.com Wed Oct 10 20:04:07 2007 From: mikemol at gmail.com (Michael Mol) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 20:04:07 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] New member looking for install. In-Reply-To: <32097e230710101631l49a22eq99adfeef98b6755@mail.gmail.com> References: <32097e230710101631l49a22eq99adfeef98b6755@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Sounds like the precursor to a "Which is best" flamewar. :-) As a beginner, I'd suggest you try Ubuntu. It has the advantage of a good combination of usability and community support. As in, if you want to know how to do something in Ubuntu, chances are that a forum somewhere has already answered your question. As for getting a copy I could physically mail you one; meeting people face-to-face is somewhat difficult for me. A question: What kind/speed is your Internet connection? A new version of Ubuntu comes out next week, and your system would update over your Internet connection, if possible. If you've got at least DSL, you shouldn't have any problem with the update. On 10/10/07, Jeff Nyman wrote: > Hi just found this website, so just a quick hello to all before getting to a > request. My windows based pc got a corrupted install and my discs are long > gone and I know no one with a disk I can use to repair, so I've decided to > switch to a linux os since I've been considering it a while. But I was > wondering which one is the best for a starter, and if possible if I could > get a copy of it from someone since I'm without convenient access to a cd > burner. Thanks. > > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > -- :wq From nymanium at gmail.com Wed Oct 10 20:20:22 2007 From: nymanium at gmail.com (Jeff Nyman) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 20:20:22 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] New member looking for install. In-Reply-To: References: <32097e230710101631l49a22eq99adfeef98b6755@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <32097e230710101720n210c8fb9o65415dde84622b2b@mail.gmail.com> I got cable so updates are no problem, I did some looking around and ubuntu sounds like a good choice. I'll let you know if I do need one mailed, seems like I can use my brothers computer tomorrow, though it'll be a bit of a drive. On 10/10/07, Michael Mol wrote: > > Sounds like the precursor to a "Which is best" flamewar. :-) > > As a beginner, I'd suggest you try Ubuntu. It has the advantage of a > good combination of usability and community support. As in, if you > want to know how to do something in Ubuntu, chances are that a forum > somewhere has already answered your question. > > As for getting a copy I could physically mail you one; meeting people > face-to-face is somewhat difficult for me. > > A question: What kind/speed is your Internet connection? A new version > of Ubuntu comes out next week, and your system would update over your > Internet connection, if possible. If you've got at least DSL, you > shouldn't have any problem with the update. > > On 10/10/07, Jeff Nyman wrote: > > Hi just found this website, so just a quick hello to all before getting > to a > > request. My windows based pc got a corrupted install and my discs are > long > > gone and I know no one with a disk I can use to repair, so I've decided > to > > switch to a linux os since I've been considering it a while. But I was > > wondering which one is the best for a starter, and if possible if I > could > > get a copy of it from someone since I'm without convenient access to a > cd > > burner. Thanks. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > grlug mailing list > > grlug at grlug.org > > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > > > > > -- > :wq > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://shinobu.grlug.org/pipermail/grlug/attachments/20071010/3acff4e7/attachment.htm From geektoyz at gmail.com Wed Oct 10 20:36:48 2007 From: geektoyz at gmail.com (Godwin) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 20:36:48 -0400 Subject: [GRLUG] Moving MySQL Data Dir In-Reply-To: <200710091124.15819.rvillarreal@mktec.com> References: <200710091124.15819.rvillarreal@mktec.com> Message-ID: <8b72b8d10710101736l163e133eqdefdd63196cfe506@mail.gmail.com> Ownership/Permissions are generally the killer. Check the "/var/lib/mysql" directory and copy exactly ( cp -a /var/lib/mysql /db/ && mv /var/lib/mysql /var/lib/mysql-bak ). After you check those, make a symbolic link from the old dir to the new ( ln -s /db/mysql /var/lib/ ). If it's just a matter of something not finding stuff, that should tell ya. G- On 10/9/07, Roberto Villarreal wrote: > On Tuesday 09 October 2007, Olding, Jim wrote: > > I'm trying to move the data dir for MySQL on CentOS from the > > default (/var/lib/mysql) to a 2nd drive (/db/mysql). Here's the > > process I'm following: > > > > Stop the running MySQLd service > > Copy everything in /var/lib/mysql to /db/mysql > > Update /etc/my.cnf to point datadir to /db/mysql > > Start MySQLd > > > > Here's the output from trying to start the service back up after > > the move: > > [root at lct-linux mysql]# service mysqld start > > Timeout error occurred trying to start MySQL Daemon. > > Starting MySQL: [FAILED] > > [root at lct-linux mysql]# service mysqld status > > mysqld (pid 5851) is running... > > > > And here's mysqld.log: > > 071009 10:17:41 mysqld started > > 071009 10:17:41 InnoDB: Started; log sequence number 0 2650890 > > /usr/libexec/mysqld: ready for connections. > > Version: '4.1.20' socket: '/db/mysql/mysql.sock' port: 3306 > > Source distribution > > > > I can see the mysqld process running, and it is listening on port > > 3306, but nothing can seem to connect to it. If I point datadir > > back to /var/lib/mysql, everything works beautifully. Ideas? > > _______________________________________________ > > grlug mailing list > > grlug at grlug.org > > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > > Shot in the dark, but verify the socket is actually created (i.e. > permissions). By default, if you are trying to connect to a local > DB, it will use the socket. So just because the port is open doesn't > really mean anything. You could probably try starting the client > forcing the use of the port (or accessing the DB from another host, > if you have proper permissions), and I'm guessing it might work. > Hopefully this gives you a starting point at least... > > Roberto > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > -- Ubber::Geek http://grlug.org/ From jerrydneal at sbcglobal.net Wed Oct 10 21:49:02 2007 From: jerrydneal at sbcglobal.net (Jerry Neal) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 18:49:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GRLUG] New member looking for install In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <162639.40922.qm@web81705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Which one is best depends on what you want to do. The degree of your knowledge of Windows (and computers in general) is relevant, because you'll most likely end up with a distro that hits that level. If you just want to surf the net and do email, ANY distro will do. I personally am running openSUSE 10.3 at the moment, but I've installed and run probably 80-100 distros in the last 8 years, and the truth is there are about a dozen that are really, really good, and most of them are at the top of the list on DistroWatch. I have a friend who just wants to do surf the net and do email who's very happy using Damn Small Linux. My brother just wants to K3B and GnuCash--pretty much any distro would do there, too, so I let him use a bunch of live CDs. Puppy Linux is good, but it's chooses oddball applications. I would say Ubuntu (I prefer Kubuntu) would be just fine for a complete beginner, and so would the new version of Freespire, and, in my judgement, MEPIS. They're also easy to install. openSUSE, Fedora, Mandriva, and Debian are considered more difficult, but still new brand new users have successfully installed and learned to use them. I would say that installation of these is slightly more difficult, but not much more difficult than installing Windows. I would make two recommendations. One, as a newcomer to Linux, completely avoid Slackware and Gentoo. They're not bad distros, but they do require more knowledge to install. Second, grab a live CD or DVD and try them all out before you decide which one to install. You don't have to install a thing this way--it runs from the CD. Ubuntu/Kubuntu, PCLinuxOS, SimplyMEPIS, KNOPPIX, openSUSE, Fedora, Debian, and Mandriva all have live CD/DVD versions you can try without partitioning your hard drive. Underneath the hood, all distros run the same kernel and use pretty much the same applications (and can add pretty much the same ones). The main differences are eye-candy and package managing methods. So if you've learned to really handle one distro (leaving Slackware and Gentoo and the package management issue out of the loop here), you've pretty much learned them all. There's no right or wrong here. The question is: what do you want to do? What works for YOU? grlug-request at grlug.org wrote: Send grlug mailing list submissions to grlug at grlug.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to grlug-request at grlug.org You can reach the person managing the list at grlug-owner at grlug.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of grlug digest..." Today's Topics: 1. New member looking for install. (Jeff Nyman) 2. Re: New member looking for install. (Michael Mol) 3. Re: New member looking for install. (Jeff Nyman) 4. Re: Moving MySQL Data Dir (Godwin) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 19:31:49 -0400 From: "Jeff Nyman" Subject: [GRLUG] New member looking for install. To: grlug at grlug.org Message-ID: <32097e230710101631l49a22eq99adfeef98b6755 at mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi just found this website, so just a quick hello to all before getting to a request. My windows based pc got a corrupted install and my discs are long gone and I know no one with a disk I can use to repair, so I've decided to switch to a linux os since I've been considering it a while. But I was wondering which one is the best for a starter, and if possible if I could get a copy of it from someone since I'm without convenient access to a cd burner. Thanks. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://shinobu.grlug.org/pipermail/grlug/attachments/20071010/0a431579/attachment-0001.htm ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 20:04:07 -0400 From: "Michael Mol" Subject: Re: [GRLUG] New member looking for install. To: grlug at grlug.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Sounds like the precursor to a "Which is best" flamewar. :-) As a beginner, I'd suggest you try Ubuntu. It has the advantage of a good combination of usability and community support. As in, if you want to know how to do something in Ubuntu, chances are that a forum somewhere has already answered your question. As for getting a copy I could physically mail you one; meeting people face-to-face is somewhat difficult for me. A question: What kind/speed is your Internet connection? A new version of Ubuntu comes out next week, and your system would update over your Internet connection, if possible. If you've got at least DSL, you shouldn't have any problem with the update. On 10/10/07, Jeff Nyman wrote: > Hi just found this website, so just a quick hello to all before getting to a > request. My windows based pc got a corrupted install and my discs are long > gone and I know no one with a disk I can use to repair, so I've decided to > switch to a linux os since I've been considering it a while. But I was > wondering which one is the best for a starter, and if possible if I could > get a copy of it from someone since I'm without convenient access to a cd > burner. Thanks. > > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > -- :wq ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 20:20:22 -0400 From: "Jeff Nyman" Subject: Re: [GRLUG] New member looking for install. To: grlug at grlug.org Message-ID: <32097e230710101720n210c8fb9o65415dde84622b2b at mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I got cable so updates are no problem, I did some looking around and ubuntu sounds like a good choice. I'll let you know if I do need one mailed, seems like I can use my brothers computer tomorrow, though it'll be a bit of a drive. On 10/10/07, Michael Mol wrote: > > Sounds like the precursor to a "Which is best" flamewar. :-) > > As a beginner, I'd suggest you try Ubuntu. It has the advantage of a > good combination of usability and community support. As in, if you > want to know how to do something in Ubuntu, chances are that a forum > somewhere has already answered your question. > > As for getting a copy I could physically mail you one; meeting people > face-to-face is somewhat difficult for me. > > A question: What kind/speed is your Internet connection? A new version > of Ubuntu comes out next week, and your system would update over your > Internet connection, if possible. If you've got at least DSL, you > shouldn't have any problem with the update. > > On 10/10/07, Jeff Nyman wrote: > > Hi just found this website, so just a quick hello to all before getting > to a > > request. My windows based pc got a corrupted install and my discs are > long > > gone and I know no one with a disk I can use to repair, so I've decided > to > > switch to a linux os since I've been considering it a while. But I was > > wondering which one is the best for a starter, and if possible if I > could > > get a copy of it from someone since I'm without convenient access to a > cd > > burner. Thanks. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > grlug mailing list > > grlug at grlug.org > > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > > > > > -- > :wq > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://shinobu.grlug.org/pipermail/grlug/attachments/20071010/3acff4e7/attachment-0001.htm ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 20:36:48 -0400 From: Godwin Subject: Re: [GRLUG] Moving MySQL Data Dir To: grlug at grlug.org Message-ID: <8b72b8d10710101736l163e133eqdefdd63196cfe506 at mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Ownership/Permissions are generally the killer. Check the "/var/lib/mysql" directory and copy exactly ( cp -a /var/lib/mysql /db/ && mv /var/lib/mysql /var/lib/mysql-bak ). After you check those, make a symbolic link from the old dir to the new ( ln -s /db/mysql /var/lib/ ). If it's just a matter of something not finding stuff, that should tell ya. G- On 10/9/07, Roberto Villarreal wrote: > On Tuesday 09 October 2007, Olding, Jim wrote: > > I'm trying to move the data dir for MySQL on CentOS from the > > default (/var/lib/mysql) to a 2nd drive (/db/mysql). Here's the > > process I'm following: > > > > Stop the running MySQLd service > > Copy everything in /var/lib/mysql to /db/mysql > > Update /etc/my.cnf to point datadir to /db/mysql > > Start MySQLd > > > > Here's the output from trying to start the service back up after > > the move: > > [root at lct-linux mysql]# service mysqld start > > Timeout error occurred trying to start MySQL Daemon. > > Starting MySQL: [FAILED] > > [root at lct-linux mysql]# service mysqld status > > mysqld (pid 5851) is running... > > > > And here's mysqld.log: > > 071009 10:17:41 mysqld started > > 071009 10:17:41 InnoDB: Started; log sequence number 0 2650890 > > /usr/libexec/mysqld: ready for connections. > > Version: '4.1.20' socket: '/db/mysql/mysql.sock' port: 3306 > > Source distribution > > > > I can see the mysqld process running, and it is listening on port > > 3306, but nothing can seem to connect to it. If I point datadir > > back to /var/lib/mysql, everything works beautifully. Ideas? > > _______________________________________________ > > grlug mailing list > > grlug at grlug.org > > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > > Shot in the dark, but verify the socket is actually created (i.e. > permissions). By default, if you are trying to connect to a local > DB, it will use the socket. So just because the port is open doesn't > really mean anything. You could probably try starting the client > forcing the use of the port (or accessing the DB from another host, > if you have proper permissions), and I'm guessing it might work. > Hopefully this gives you a starting point at least... > > Roberto > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > -- Ubber::Geek http://grlug.org/ ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ grlug mailing list grlug at grlug.org http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug End of grlug Digest, Vol 19, Issue 15 ************************************* -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I have a friend who just wants to do surf the net and do email who's very happy using Damn Small Linux. My brother just wants to K3B and GnuCash--pretty much any distro would do there, too, so I let him use a bunch of live CDs. Puppy Linux is good, but it's chooses oddball applications. I would say Ubuntu (I prefer Kubuntu) would be just fine for a complete beginner, and so would the new version of Freespire, and, in my judgement, MEPIS. They're also easy to install. openSUSE, Fedora, Mandriva, and Debian are considered more difficult, but still new brand new users have successfully installed and learned to use them. I would say that installation of these is slightly more difficult, but not much more difficult than installing Windows. I would make two recommendations. One, as a newcomer to Linux, completely avoid Slackware and Gentoo. They're not bad distros, but they do require more knowledge to install. Second, grab a live CD or DVD and try them all out before you decide which one to install. You don't have to install a thing this way--it runs from the CD. Ubuntu/Kubuntu, PCLinuxOS, SimplyMEPIS, KNOPPIX, openSUSE, Fedora, Debian, and Mandriva all have live CD/DVD versions you can try without partitioning your hard drive. Underneath the hood, all distros run the same kernel and use pretty much the same applications (and can add pretty much the same ones). The main differences are eye-candy and package managing methods. So if you've learned to really handle one distro (leaving Slackware and Gentoo and the package management issue out of the loop here), you've pretty much learned them all. There's no right or wrong here. The question is: what do you want to do? What works for YOU? grlug-request at grlug.org wrote: Send grlug mailing list submissions to grlug at grlug.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to grlug-request at grlug.org You can reach the person managing the list at grlug-owner at grlug.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of grlug digest..." Today's Topics: 1. New member looking for install. (Jeff Nyman) 2. Re: New member looking for install. (Michael Mol) 3. Re: New member looking for install. (Jeff Nyman) 4. Re: Moving MySQL Data Dir (Godwin) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 19:31:49 -0400 From: "Jeff Nyman" Subject: [GRLUG] New member looking for install. To: grlug at grlug.org Message-ID: <32097e230710101631l49a22eq99adfeef98b6755 at mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi just found this website, so just a quick hello to all before getting to a request. My windows based pc got a corrupted install and my discs are long gone and I know no one with a disk I can use to repair, so I've decided to switch to a linux os since I've been considering it a while. But I was wondering which one is the best for a starter, and if possible if I could get a copy of it from someone since I'm without convenient access to a cd burner. Thanks. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://shinobu.grlug.org/pipermail/grlug/attachments/20071010/0a431579/attachment-0001.htm ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 20:04:07 -0400 From: "Michael Mol" Subject: Re: [GRLUG] New member looking for install. To: grlug at grlug.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Sounds like the precursor to a "Which is best" flamewar. :-) As a beginner, I'd suggest you try Ubuntu. It has the advantage of a good combination of usability and community support. As in, if you want to know how to do something in Ubuntu, chances are that a forum somewhere has already answered your question. As for getting a copy I could physically mail you one; meeting people face-to-face is somewhat difficult for me. A question: What kind/speed is your Internet connection? A new version of Ubuntu comes out next week, and your system would update over your Internet connection, if possible. If you've got at least DSL, you shouldn't have any problem with the update. On 10/10/07, Jeff Nyman wrote: > Hi just found this website, so just a quick hello to all before getting to a > request. My windows based pc got a corrupted install and my discs are long > gone and I know no one with a disk I can use to repair, so I've decided to > switch to a linux os since I've been considering it a while. But I was > wondering which one is the best for a starter, and if possible if I could > get a copy of it from someone since I'm without convenient access to a cd > burner. Thanks. > > _______________________________________________ > grlug mailing list > grlug at grlug.org > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlug > -- :wq ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 20:20:22 -0400 From: "Jeff Nyman" Subject: Re: [GRLUG] New member looking for install. To: grlug at grlug.org Message-ID: <32097e230710101720n210c8fb9o65415dde84622b2b at mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I got cable so updates are no problem, I did some looking around and ubuntu sounds like a good choice. I'll let you know if I do need one mailed, seems like I can use my brothers computer tomorrow, though it'll be a bit of a drive. On 10/10/07, Michael Mol wrote: > > Sounds like the precursor to a "Which is best" flamewar. :-) > > As a beginner, I'd suggest you try Ubuntu. It has the advantage of a > good combination of usability and community support. As in, if you > want to know how to do something in Ubuntu, chances are that a forum > somewhere has already answered your question. > > As for getting a copy I could physically mail you one; meeting people > face-to-face is somewhat difficult for me. > > A question: What kind/speed is your Internet connection? A new version > of Ubuntu comes out next week, and your system would update over your > Internet connection, if possible. If you've got at least DSL, you > shouldn't have any problem with the update. > > On 10/10/07, Jeff Nyman wrote: > > Hi just found this website, so just a quick hello to all before getting > to a > > request. My windows based pc got a corrupted install and my discs are > long > > gone and I know no one with a disk I can use to repair, so I've decided > to > > switch to a linux os since I've been considering it a while. But I was > > wondering which one is the best for a starter, and if possible if I > could > > get a copy of it from someone since I'm without convenient access to a > cd > > burner. Thanks. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > grlug mailing list > > grlug at grlug.org > > http://shinobu.grlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/grlu